Speculation: Lindholm back to Rogle of SHL?

[Freudian]

When you are in Sweden instead of North America on the 29th of September, it at least says that the player doesn't expect to sign in the immediate future.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Aaron Ekblad's contract screwed everything up for these young defensemen. He's a good player no doubt, but that's far too much money for a player with 150 games of NHL experience. Still a huge gamble by Florida despite his potential, imo.

Realistically, I'd say they're all probably in the $5 million range. Seth Jones' contract is surprisingly accurate and should be their comparable.

It's a fair contract for Ekblad.

Lindholm should get an equally fair contract at his worth, around $6M-$6.5M

 

[Nordic*]

Anaheim does not have the money to sign both Lindholm and Rakell, unless on/both sign well below what they're asking for - and deserve.

 

[Paul4587]

I'm expecting Murray to be fired if he isn't signed by opening day. There's no reason for this absolutely none. Get rid of Murray all ducks fans should be done with em after the asskicking we got by kings tonight. It's an absolute joke 2 key players threatening different league

Yep ownership is going to fire the guy with 4 straight division titles.

Good one ducksgo.

 

[WaveRaven]

Funny for a guy that is such a stud sure fire #1 6.5 seems cheap to me.

I could see him asking out.

 

[ayrton2388]

Yep ownership is going to fire the guy with 4 straight division titles.

Good one ducksgo.

They did fire a coach with 4 straight division titles... just sayin`.

Murray is a good, solid GM. He was a bit sloppy in the last couple of years, though... And just like it was with coaching, i don't think there's a better GM available out there, to replace BM.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

To Anaheim:
Trouba
2017 1st
B Prospect / 2nd Rounder

To Winnipeg:
Lindholm


Jets sign Lindholm to 7X7
Anaheim sign Trouba to 7X5

Everyone is happy.
World hunger is solved.
Birds sing.
The Maple Leafs get relegated to the AHL.


A perfect world!

 

[GoJetsGo55]

 

[MikeRahl]

To Anaheim:
Trouba
2017 1st
B Prospect / 2nd Rounder

To Winnipeg:
Lindholm


Jets sign Lindholm to 7X7
Anaheim sign Trouba to 7X5

Everyone is happy.
World hunger is solved.
Birds sing.
The Maple Leafs get relegated to the AHL.


A perfect world!

I wonder who is out there for a 1st and a B prospect. That essentially got you Ladd at the deadline last year. Maybe you could just outright say 1st and Dano and he can continue his Kevin Glenn-esque tour of the NHL.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

I wonder who is out there for a 1st and a B prospect. That essentially got you Ladd at the deadline last year. Maybe you could just outright say 1st and Dano and he can continue his Kevin Glenn-esque tour of the NHL.

I would probably do Trouba + 2017 1st + Dano.

Then again, I put 15 seconds of thought into it.

Lindholm - Buff
Endstrom - Myers
Garbage - Fire

That seems good enough to get us to the playoffs.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

This is exactly why you dont do that Ekblad contract. I know Florida was trying to be cute and get ahead of the curve on the value of Eklblads future contracts, but it is going to cause a disastrous ripple effect across the league in future RFAs

this is the kind of crap that leads to upcoming lockouts.

Players with barely a resume are getting huge bucks. Then the veteran players turn around and look at these guys and expect even more, all of this on top of a flat cap the past couple years.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Kings need to throw out an offersheet on this one.

Yeah too bad the Kings don't have $7 million to $8 million to throw at Lindholm for an offer sheet. Kings are the last team that could afford an offer sheet.

 

[MikeRahl]

This is exactly why you dont do that Ekblad contract. I know Florida was trying to be cute and get ahead of the curve on the value of Eklblads future contracts, but it is going to cause a disastrous ripple effect across the league in future RFAs

this is the kind of crap that leads to upcoming lockouts.

Players with barely a resume are getting huge bucks. Then the veteran players turn around and look at these guys and expect even more, all of this on top of a flat cap the past couple years.

This is an issue with RFA. Florida is just making sure they keep Ekblad, as soon as you start getting into UFA years with RFA you need to pay a premium. The alternative would be that a RFA cannot sign for term past their UFA date, but I don't think you could find an executive that would want that.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

To Anaheim:
Trouba
2017 1st
B Prospect / 2nd Rounder

To Winnipeg:
Lindholm


Jets sign Lindholm to 7X7
Anaheim sign Trouba to 7X5

Everyone is happy.
World hunger is solved.
Birds sing.
The Maple Leafs get relegated to the AHL.


A perfect world!

To bad that BM said that he will never trade Lindholm, And if you think a deal around Lindholm who's much better then Trouba for Trouba and other pieces. Yes this isn't happening.

 

[Ace]

What possible argument is there to make less than Seth Jones other than draft position...which is beyond meaningless.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

To Anaheim:
Trouba
2017 1st
B Prospect / 2nd Rounder

To Winnipeg:
Lindholm


Jets sign Lindholm to 7X7
Anaheim sign Trouba to 7X5

Everyone is happy.
World hunger is solved.
Birds sing.
The Maple Leafs get relegated to the AHL.


A perfect world!

Would rather just keep the better Dman, and looks like we can sign him for less than that based on Bob's tweets.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

To bad that BM said that he will never trade Lindholm, And if you think a deal around Lindholm who's much better then Trouba for Trouba and other pieces. Yes this isn't happening.

Would rather just keep the better Dman, and looks like we can sign him for less than that based on Bob's tweets.

That's fair.

If he's only asking for 6 to 6.5, then why hasn't an 8 year deal been worked out yet? He seems like he's easily worth that kind of money.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

This is an issue with RFA. Florida is just making sure they keep Ekblad, as soon as you start getting into UFA years with RFA you need to pay a premium. The alternative would be that a RFA cannot sign for term past their UFA date, but I don't think you could find an executive that would want that.

They should probably make max term and value restrictions on RFA deals in the upcoming CBA, kind of like how ELCs are.

ELC maxes are $925 or $950k over a 3 year max

Structure a Tier 1 RFA (1st or 2nd year RFA) to have a max term of 5 years and $4 mil per. This way it would cost control outrageous contracts right out of ELC. It will make the player choose if they want to get paid NOW they wont make as much as if they are patient and wait until Tier 2 status. It still allows the GMs to bridge the players on shorter term en route to Tier 2 RFA if they wanted where they can say if you play ball here and take a more reasonable deal you have the opportunity to play your way into the open ended contract down the line, but it caps the GMs going nuts handing out massive deals making new comparables for other GMs and teams across the league dealing with their RFAs

Structure a Tier 2 RFA (3rd or 4th year RFA) to have an unrestricted term and value of the contract. This way the player will have about 6 years of AHL/NHL experience under his belt by then

 

[Emerald Duck]

Teams Facebook post
https://www.facebook.com/roglebk/ph...613875640356/1114117751956625/?type=3&theater

Crazy recent trend of players holding out and possibly going back to their former leagues overseas.

At least Lindholm is taking his training seriously and staying in shape

 

[MikeRahl]

They should probably make max term and value restrictions on RFA deals in the upcoming CBA, kind of like how ELCs are.

ELC maxes are $925 or $950k over a 3 year max

Structure a Tier 1 RFA (1st or 2nd year RFA) to have a max term of 5 years and $4 mil per. This way it would cost control outrageous contracts right out of ELC. It will make the player choose if they want to get paid NOW they wont make as much as if they are patient and wait until Tier 2 status. It still allows the GMs to bridge the players on shorter term en route to Tier 2 RFA if they wanted where they can say if you play ball here and take a more reasonable deal you have the opportunity to play your way into the open ended contract down the line, but it caps the GMs going nuts handing out massive deals making new comparables for other GMs and teams across the league dealing with their RFAs

Structure a Tier 2 RFA (3rd or 4th year RFA) to have an unrestricted term and value of the contract. This way the player will have about 6 years of AHL/NHL experience under his belt by then

Why would the players agree to that? You are essentially saying that players can't earn market value until a year before they would be an unrestricted free agent? You would probably see a wild swing to Max 2 Year RFA in Tier 1, then alot of money for 2 years as RFA 2 and everyone hitting UFA as soon a possible.

The league would probably have to trim down RFA Pick compensation if the NHLPA was ever going to further limit salarys for young players.

 

[aj8000]

To bad that BM said that he will never trade Lindholm, And if you think a deal around Lindholm who's much better then Trouba for Trouba and other pieces. Yes this isn't happening.

Your fault world hunger is not solved then.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Why would the players agree to that? You are essentially saying that players can't earn market value until a year before they would be an unrestricted free agent? You would probably see a wild swing to Max 2 Year RFA in Tier 1, then alot of money for 2 years as RFA 2 and everyone hitting UFA as soon a possible.

The league would probably have to trim down RFA Pick compensation if the NHLPA was ever going to further limit salarys for young players.

All it is doing is limiting what players can earn for 2 years after their ELC. Its not beyond unreasonable and they can still make up to $5 per if they ask for it. The owners wouldnt be throwing them out on the street exactly and forcing them to take peanuts. However it would prevent wild spending which could lead to another lockout

Any player can still get a 1-5 year deal at $5 per as a Tier 1 RFA if it works out that way, which still would exceed most bridge deals today. The only thing it stops are anomalies like the Ekblad contract right out of ELC that throws all RFA negotiations into a tailspin. Same thing with the RNH and Hall contracts when they were handed out as well as many others in the past

 

[Heraldic]

Between Risto and Lindholm, I think Risto will be the first one to sign a contract.

And the contract he signs, probably has a huge impact on Lindholm's situation.

 

[NikoEhlers]

Lindholm > Trouba and Trouba wants to get pay a good amount as well so Ducks are not trading Lindholm for Trouba.

I agree with the first line, though you should be able to sign Trouba for a lot less. Lindholm is more proven. The main problem was him not happy with being behind Myers and Buff and playing different side. If we are to believe him.

 

[Arthuros]

Between Risto and Lindholm, I think Risto will be the first one to sign a contract.

And the contract he signs, probably has a huge impact on Lindholm's situation.

Are players technically still allowed to train with their team if they're unsigned? I'm aware that it would be unusual to do so, but are they forbidden from training with any NHL team even if it's their own?