Speculation: Lindholm back to Rogle of SHL?

[caliamad]

Supposedly Lindholm wants 6.5 and Rakell wants 4, but at least both sides are open to long term deals.

I don't think Lindholm should get paid more than Seth Jones, and I think Lindholm, shouldn't get much over 3 million...

so I can understand why a team like anaheim wants to hold the line a bit. It doesn't sound like things have gotten ugly, both sides just need to feel the pain a bit (ducks slow start, players out of training camp/games).

I predict Lindholm gets 5.25 and rakell 3.125 on either 5 or 6 year deals.

The real interesting question is who gets moved to make those deals happen. I'm hoping its stoner.

 

[Iceman]

Supposedly Lindholm wants 6.5 and Rakell wants 4, but at least both sides are open to long term deals.

I don't think Lindholm should get paid more than Seth Jones, and I think Lindholm, shouldn't get much over 3 million...

so I can understand why a team like anaheim wants to hold the line a bit. It doesn't sound like things have gotten ugly, both sides just need to feel the pain a bit (ducks slow start, players out of training camp/games).

I predict Lindholm gets 5.25 and rakell 3.125 on either 5 or 6 year deals.

The real interesting question is who gets moved to make those deals happen. I'm hoping its stoner.

Lindholm not over 3 million? What? I hope you meant Rackell.

 

[Paxon]

Teams Facebook post
https://www.facebook.com/roglebk/ph...613875640356/1114117751956625/?type=3&theater

Crazy recent trend of players holding out and possibly going back to their former leagues overseas.

RFAs aren't holdouts. They aren't under contract. Both sides are equally responsible in that they have not reached an agreement on a contract.

 

[Ducksgo*]

Supposedly Lindholm wants 6.5 and Rakell wants 4, but at least both sides are open to long term deals.

I don't think Lindholm should get paid more than Seth Jones, and I think Lindholm, shouldn't get much over 3 million...

so I can understand why a team like anaheim wants to hold the line a bit. It doesn't sound like things have gotten ugly, both sides just need to feel the pain a bit (ducks slow start, players out of training camp/games).

I predict Lindholm gets 5.25 and rakell 3.125 on either 5 or 6 year deals.

The real interesting question is who gets moved to make those deals happen. I'm hoping its stoner.

If that was the price it would have been done already before the new player contracts. That's not it one bit. Both players know they got Anaheim by the balls

 

[PAZ]

Supposedly Lindholm wants 6.5 and Rakell wants 4, but at least both sides are open to long term deals.

I don't think Lindholm should get paid more than Seth Jones, and I think Lindholm, shouldn't get much over 3 million...

so I can understand why a team like anaheim wants to hold the line a bit. It doesn't sound like things have gotten ugly, both sides just need to feel the pain a bit (ducks slow start, players out of training camp/games).

I predict Lindholm gets 5.25 and rakell 3.125 on either 5 or 6 year deals.

The real interesting question is who gets moved to make those deals happen. I'm hoping its stoner.

Lindholm has been better every year in comparison to Seth Jones. The only argument you can make for Jones is that he has the draft pedigree.

Lindholm is the best player of his draft class, he easily deserves 6.5 mil when Forsberg is making 6 mil.

 

[12ozPapa]

Lindholm has been better every year in comparison to Seth Jones. The only argument you can make for Jones is that he has the draft pedigree.

Lindholm is the best player of his draft class, he easily deserves 6.5 mil when Forsberg is making 6 mil.

How is Bob supposed to re-sign Stoner to 5 years at 4.5 a year with a NTC and add Joe DiPenta on D with 3 million cap hit?

See - you don't get it man. Bob has designs, baby.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

bieber working out in khl, speculate all you want.

noooo not jokerit

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Lindholm has been better every year in comparison to Seth Jones. The only argument you can make for Jones is that he has the draft pedigree.

Lindholm is the best player of his draft class, he easily deserves 6.5 mil when Forsberg is making 6 mil.

Agreed. Also Ristolainen has been better than Jones so far from the 2013 draft class.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Bieber working out in KHL, speculate all you want.

carolina should sign him

ever since joe corvo left, we have been missing a dude w/ ugly tattoos

 

[Claypool]

Aaron Ekblad's contract screwed everything up for these young defensemen. He's a good player no doubt, but that's far too much money for a player with 150 games of NHL experience. Still a huge gamble by Florida despite his potential, imo.

Realistically, I'd say they're all probably in the $5 million range. Seth Jones' contract is surprisingly accurate and should be their comparable.

 

[McRpro]

UFA's get overpaid and RFA's get underpaid. It's that simple.

If the RFA's don't like it then they are free to sit out and make nothing or go sign in a different league. Or quit hockey and get a real job paying far less than even the NHL minimum.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Supposedly Lindholm wants 6.5 and Rakell wants 4, but at least both sides are open to long term deals.

I don't think Lindholm should get paid more than Seth Jones, and I think Lindholm, shouldn't get much over 3 million...

so I can understand why a team like anaheim wants to hold the line a bit. It doesn't sound like things have gotten ugly, both sides just need to feel the pain a bit (ducks slow start, players out of training camp/games).

I predict Lindholm gets 5.25 and rakell 3.125 on either 5 or 6 year deals.

The real interesting question is who gets moved to make those deals happen. I'm hoping its stoner.

This is starting to get dumb. Lindholm should definetly get over 6 mill longterm. He is a damn good player, just get it done. Rakell should take a 2 year bridge. Something around jt millers bridge deal. 2,5-2,7 2 year bridge deal.

 

[Ducksgo*]

This is starting to get dumb. Lindholm should definetly get over 6 mill longterm. He is a damn good player, just get it done. Rakell should take a 2 year bridge. Something around jt millers bridge deal. 2,5-2,7 2 year bridge deal.

Just now getting dumb? It's been dumb the entire offseason. I completely agree with you though outside my tangent

 

[WesMcCauley]

Just now getting dumb? It's been dumb the entire offseason. I completely agree with you though outside my tangent

yep. The Bieksa resigning and the Bernier trade aswell looks worse every day. Bieksa also has a NMC, 35+ contract.... Who does the math for Ana? Will lose a very good player in the expansion draft almost no matter what.

 

[Vipers31]

Players training with their hometown teams in the summer is not a sign of them considering signing there. It's incredibly standard.

If that was the price it would have been done already before the new player contracts. That's not it one bit. Both players know they got Anaheim by the balls

They don't.

 

[Markus078]

yep. The Bieksa resigning and the Bernier trade aswell looks worse every day. Bieksa also has a NMC, 35+ contract.... Who does the math for Ana? Will lose a very good player in the expansion draft almost no matter what.

Well, Bieksa we will see how he plays this season. Beauch wanted 3y at the same price at least, so moneywise this is the same situation and we will see how Beauch will do this year. I don't understand the Bernier thing. The Ducks needed a backup and Bernier has talent and has to prove himself. That's a good situation. Who would have been the alternative?

 

[Leon Draisaitl]

Well, Bieksa we will see how he plays this season. Beauch wanted 3y at the same price at least, so moneywise this is the same situation and we will see how Beauch will do this year. I don't understand the Bernier thing. The Ducks needed a backup and Bernier has talent and has to prove himself. That's a good situation. Who would have been the alternative?

Bernier's making 4M which is absolutely terrible. Ducks should have just signed Enroth for 1M. If they did that, they'd have enough money to sign Lindholm and Rakell (though they'd be over their internal limit).

 

[Ducksgo*]

yep. The Bieksa resigning and the Bernier trade aswell looks worse every day. Bieksa also has a NMC, 35+ contract.... Who does the math for Ana? Will lose a very good player in the expansion draft almost no matter what.

Very good question probably no one. Because our roster looks like ****

 

[Ainec]

Still not sure why Ducks are an internal budget team at this stage of contention

 

[Seanaconda]

Bernier's making 4M which is absolutely terrible. Ducks should have just signed Enroth for 1M. If they did that, they'd have enough money to sign Lindholm and Rakell (though they'd be over their internal limit).

Ducks are gonna have to bite the bullet and lose some trades. Or trade for prospects and picks. Idk why they spent so much money on duds when they have an internal cap. Bottom 3 defense all making close or over 2 mill?

Crazy especially when they have great prospects coming in and have /had lindholm Rakell and vatanen to sign. Poor cap management for a budget team.

They will be pushing the cap ceiling even if they make some trades. Unless the manage to bridge them for cheap.

 

[Ducksgo*]

Players training with their hometown teams in the summer is not a sign of them considering signing there. It's incredibly standard.



They don't.

That's your guess vipers. For all we know both KHL and Lindholms threats are real along with Rakell regarding KHL

 

[Frosted Tips]

Bernier's making 4M which is absolutely terrible. Ducks should have just signed Enroth for 1M. If they did that, they'd have enough money to sign Lindholm and Rakell (though they'd be over their internal limit).

Toronto paid Bernier's 2M signing bonus before the trade. Ducks are not a cap team, which is unfortunate.

 

[Vipers31]

That's your guess vipers. For all we know both KHL and Lindholms threats are real along with Rakell regarding KHL

It's a much more educated guess than thinking it's real. Rögle's top players are getting something in the $400,000 range, estimatedly. If they even have room in their budget, at all, at this point where their season has already begun, that's the range. Novosibirsk has a biggger budget, but I'm very confident that they can't pay guys $3M, either - their import players are more in the $500k range in other leagues than they are star players in the KHL. When they have guys that impress in the KHL, they tend to be leaving for bigger money within the KHL quickly. And with Rakell, there is no connection to Novosibirsk, at all, to make taking less money any consideration.

You just can't say stuff like "they have them by the balls". They are sitting at home, with no income, and no one to talk to other than the Ducks for the type of money they want, unless the latest (?) offer sheet in the history of offer sheets comes along, which there are no signs of. The "having by the balls" is mutual at worst, from a Ducks' POV, and given what I said before, the Ducks' grip is much tighter. The Ducks are a hockey team that wants two of their good players to start training with them. Those two are human beings sitting at home without a paycheck. It's two different levels of discomfort.

 

[Heraldic]

Is a player training with his hometeam during a summer normal? Absolutely. Is a player training with his team, when the team's regular season has started, and his NHL club's training camp as well, normal? Not so much.

It's not an indication that Lindholm is preparing to skip the season in NHL, but it is that he is ready to wait a bit longer.

 

[varano]

Still not sure why Ducks are an internal budget team at this stage of contention

Thats easy...
The team doesn't make money... Go read about it.. its actually interesting how an every year cup challenger loses money