Yeah but he's going to see a doc to rule out a broken bone in one of them. That has to hurt walking on in sneakers, no?
Speculation: Lias Andersson asks for a trade - Part II
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Yeah but he's going to see a doc to rule out a broken bone in one of them. That has to hurt walking on in sneakers, no?
Did he help bring in KK? We don’t know anything about that. And both STL and CBJ were bottom dwellers when JD left too.
Look, it’s certainly not nonsense to claim that JD has any kind of serious merits compared to a whole bunch of names out there. Come on.
He could be the best guy for the job or not, I don’t know that. It’s impossible to know. But he wasn’t hired on merits.
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One Winged Angel
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Obviously, people care and as a head coach, you’re supposed to be the leader and take the high road, not take petty and trifling potshots at players who aren’t even on the team right now. That’s the type of coach you want leading this team and developing young talent? If so, good for you, but not me. If it’s not a shot, then say you’re proud of him and he earned it and move on. He’s right that Shesty earned it and didn’t say a word. Shesty’s situation is also entirely different from Kravtsov, Chytil and Lias’ situations, so not only does he look petty, he looks stupid.
No, about Europeans and their style of play.
Yeah probably, I responded to your post before I read the full article so I didn't see the potential break part. My bad.
egelband
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I have a feeling that at some point in the last couple years, the Rangers management team has identified “mental fortitude” as a weakness of the team over the past ‘era’.
As we all know, in the early 2000s the Rangers locker room was considered to have a bit of a resort atmosphere. And i think the ‘issue’ has kind of persisted.
I wouldn’t be surprised if management is intentionally being “tougher” on next generation. And obviously this is not going to work with every player. It seems to have worked with Chytil and Shesterkin and De Angelo for example.
But maybe not with others, like Lias.
This is just speculation but the Rangers management has talked a lot about attitude and culture.
But maybe they have taken something of a one-size-fits-all approach rather than being more...nuanced.
Either way I hope they’re taking notes. Tough love is a good thing but it has to be measured. Anyhow just my humble opinion.
CBJ was not a bottom dweller when he left last year. Or the couple years before that.
STL was one of the best teams in the league towards the end of his tenure there.
Eve nf a message to the likes of Andersson, as pointed out, unless there is real mental illness, get over it. You are a big boy playing for a job that very few get to have. What your teammates named Shesterkin & Chytil did, is exactly what you should have done.
What did he say?
Well unfortunately feet issues will ruin a career. And frankly he’s never looked like he could skate comfortably since we got him. This could just be the usual rangers curse. Draft a kid high and he gets a career threatening/altering/ending injury.
One Winged Angel
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None of us know about his mental illness. Also, when Lias was asked about bullying, he said he couldn’t answer the question right now and would do so when the time is right. Considering what came out about Babcock and Peters recently, I’d refrain from telling someone to “get over it” when you have absolutely no idea of what’s going on behind closed doors.
He blamed the team’s lack of shooting on the European style of hockey in a Don Cherry-like but far more subtle kind of way.
He also said it's a youth thing too directly after, but only the European part gets paid attention to.
Let’s be clear here Peters got fired for being a racist piece of shit and physically assaulting a player. Babcock was fired just because the team was bad. He was hated but not accused of anything Peters did.
I highly doubt Quinn punched Lias or threw an ethnic slur at the Swedish blonde kid.
did he tell him he sucked and needed to play better? Probably. If that’s now bullying and a fireable offense then every coach would be gone by now. The things torts says to players it’s amazing. And he may win a jack adams this year.
I highly doubt Quinn punched Lias or threw an ethnic slur at the Swedish blonde kid.
did he tell him he sucked and needed to play better? Probably. If that’s now bullying and a fireable offense then every coach would be gone by now. The things torts says to players it’s amazing. And he may win a jack adams this year.
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The "making one of the NHL's toughest players (Franzen) have a mental breakdown" thing and the Marner thing also pretty clearly played into Babcock's departure. That doesn't rise to the level of racism and assault perpetrated by Peters, but it's definitely more than a footnote to the final chapter in his story.
the things he used to say to Matt Gilroy I mean I to this day don’t know how he didn’t hit him.
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Granted, this is off Blueshirt Banter, but Patrik Bexell is one of their Swedish correspondent guys:
"It was a guarded but forthcoming Lias Anderson that spoke about his situation. “People can say it’s an idiotic decision in regards to my hockey career - but they don’t know the whole story” is the opening quote from Lias, who is wearing a pair of slippers as he cant fit his feet into a pair of shoes, he played the last games with both Hartford and New York Rangers with injured feet. In the end he left USA on the first possible flight. "
Lias Andersson speaks out
"It was a guarded but forthcoming Lias Anderson that spoke about his situation. “People can say it’s an idiotic decision in regards to my hockey career - but they don’t know the whole story” is the opening quote from Lias, who is wearing a pair of slippers as he cant fit his feet into a pair of shoes, he played the last games with both Hartford and New York Rangers with injured feet. In the end he left USA on the first possible flight. "
Lias Andersson speaks out
I never cared for any of this. I didn't mind him being tough with the players, on the bench, behind closed doors, practice, whatever--but the coach is one of the biggest public faces of the franchise and I feel like they should not act like children at pressers. JMO, I know others love it.
Fortunately that kind of stuff is on the way out.
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I haven't checked on Lias' story developments in a few days and this is where it's span?? Wow!
The implication of what Lias referred to but chose to leave unsaid could be pretty serious and damaging to the Rangers organization. In this day and age and especially with the recent stories about mental health issues, abuse and mistreatment of players by coaching staff etc, I have a very difficult time believing that if any of this was true JD (as a new President who wasn't here until this offseason) would not act and even overreact to support the player.
A. I don't believe that if Lias come forward within the organization with mental health issues - he'd be ignored, let leave the team and suspended
B. I don't believe that if Lias come forward within the organization with physical health issues - that medical staff would give him a-go to continue playing games while injured (i.e ignored), let leave the team and suspended
C. I don't believe that if Lias come forward within the organization with accusations of abuse from the coaching staff - he'd be ignored, let leave the team and suspended
D. Wouldn't player be able to go to NHLPA?
The implication of what Lias referred to but chose to leave unsaid could be pretty serious and damaging to the Rangers organization. In this day and age and especially with the recent stories about mental health issues, abuse and mistreatment of players by coaching staff etc, I have a very difficult time believing that if any of this was true JD (as a new President who wasn't here until this offseason) would not act and even overreact to support the player.
A. I don't believe that if Lias come forward within the organization with mental health issues - he'd be ignored, let leave the team and suspended
B. I don't believe that if Lias come forward within the organization with physical health issues - that medical staff would give him a-go to continue playing games while injured (i.e ignored), let leave the team and suspended
C. I don't believe that if Lias come forward within the organization with accusations of abuse from the coaching staff - he'd be ignored, let leave the team and suspended
D. Wouldn't player be able to go to NHLPA?
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To be fair, we don't know what happened. Not making any speicific accusations isn't helping his case though. If there's something to expose, then he should expose it explicitly and it should be dealt with by the team's front office or at the NHL level if appropriate.
Vague media comments like this, however, are not a good way to handle the situation.
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Again we're going off of that interview but if he hurt his feet while playing with the big team, how were they not aware of it?
The team has to be figuring out what the next step in this process, him doing that interview and some of the stuff he's saying is not going to reflect well for the them.
And now that he's spoken publicly about it, I think there's no chance he ever steps foot back onto the ice as a Ranger
The team has to be figuring out what the next step in this process, him doing that interview and some of the stuff he's saying is not going to reflect well for the them.
And now that he's spoken publicly about it, I think there's no chance he ever steps foot back onto the ice as a Ranger
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