Speculation: Lias Andersson asks for a trade - Part II

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His play early in the season was better than Howden, who played with better line mates. And still nothing happened. Lias' play declined near the end of October, leading to a healthy scratch in early November.

He was never rewarded for his better performance early on and everyone was saying "oh, it's still early".
I don't think the difference in their play (Howden / Lias) was significant. Again, I never said that Quinn shouldn't have moved him, but at the same time it's not that glaring to me.

End of the day... he's supposed to play hockey... really REALLY well. That's his job. He didn't while up, didn't in the AHL and now he may not be a pro player at all.
 
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this might be true yet I still circle back to the timing. Lias was fine yet it was Kravtsov who left. The moment Kravtsov returned, Lias left. Did Kravtsov get more love while the well behaved Lias was ignored for good behavior? The kid is only 21 (who knows what goes through their heads) and he may had said (blank) this once Kravtsov returned. The timeline of Lias departure if right after Kravtsov returned.

Maybe the Rangers need to look in the mirror before the kids get blamed.

thoughts on the timing?
Honestly, maybe he said "F THIS! If Kravtsov can bolt I can" Except that the contract status for both were very different and how he went about WAS VERY different.

Funny how Kravtsov came back almost immediately and has performed better yet Lias is hanging with his friends and family.

Again, the NYR/Wolfpack may have some issues but at the end of the day this kid looks bad in every optic and now has nearly zero value in North America. Forget about value to the NYR and how this impacts us.

If he wants to stay in Sweden for his career maybe it won't matter to him.
 
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There is more

- It is not a promise that has broken, it is things that have happened only that have made me very uncomfortable and such things.

- Unfortunately, I can not say anything, I have gag from the agents. So I have to keep quiet
 


Who thinks the injury is real?


Actually, random thought. I wonder if the reason he actually bolted is related to the injury. Maybe he feels (correctly or not) that the Rangers tried to force him to play through an injury that he should have healed, or didn't diagnose/treat something properly.

Pure speculation on my part, it's just that players usually don't take drastic measures like leave a team even if they want to be traded without a good reason.

I mean if it's "coach favored someone else over me, I didn't get a shot, I didn't want to keep putting myself at risk of injury for an organization that I dont' want to play for" then that's pretty dumb but
 
Actually, random thought. I wonder if the reason he actually bolted is related to the injury. Maybe he feels (correctly or not) that the Rangers tried to force him to play through an injury that he should have healed, or didn't diagnose/treat something properly.

Pure speculation on my part, it's just that players usually don't take drastic measures like leave a team even if they want to be traded without a good reason.

I mean if it's "coach favored someone else over me, I didn't get a shot, I didn't want to keep putting myself at risk of injury for an organization that I dont' want to play for" then that's pretty dumb but
Wouldn't be the first time a player harbored resentment toward an organization over mishandling an injury.
 
Actually, random thought. I wonder if the reason he actually bolted is related to the injury. Maybe he feels (correctly or not) that the Rangers tried to force him to play through an injury that he should have healed, or didn't diagnose/treat something properly.

Pure speculation on my part, it's just that players usually don't take drastic measures like leave a team even if they want to be traded without a good reason.

I mean if it's "coach favored someone else over me, I didn't get a shot, I didn't want to keep putting myself at risk of injury for an organization that I dont' want to play for" then that's pretty dumb but


Thats the first thing I thought after reading that. This all seemed so out of the blue, and I dont remember hearing anything about him being injured.

Definitely speculation, but theres probably more to the story than what we think we know.
 
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This article talks about something completely different from the TV interview.

EDIT: Its behind a paywall, but I got it before they made an update to it. Google translate was used:

The center stands in Frölundaborg in white socks and a pair of slippers. He doesn't get his feet in a pair of shoes - and played lately in both the New York Rangers and the Hartford Wolf Pack with injured feet.
Eventually Andersson got tired - and left the United States with the first best flight.
He didn't even get the equipment ...
- There have been many incidents. I can't go into exactly all the things, I'll take that a little further. There have been many incidents that have touched me on a personal level, things that have made me not feel good mentally. In hockey terms, it might be an idiot decision, but I have to think about privacy as well.
Lias is silent.
- I feel myself that I have not had the hunger and the look for it anymore - and there have been many incidents that have disturbed me. I feel I need to get it right, Lias says.
Can you arrange everything here at home - if you restart?
- I know I'm a good enough hockey player to play over there. I think I proved that during the preseason. I thought I was pretty much a spot on the center side after Mika Zibanejad, but…
Andersson continues:
- Hockey self-confidence is probably still there somewhere, but it has become too difficult mentally due to certain things. Well, that's it.
Many people think you are wasting your career?
- Yes absolutely. But there is a career that is more important - and it is friends, family and my health. In terms of hockey, we will see that in a few years, it may not be the smartest decision if I want to play in the NHL. But there is hockey in several places. Many people think it's a hockey decision I've made, but it's for my health that I've made this decision.
Played injured

When GP visited Lias Andersson in the Hartford pharmacy a couple of years ago, the talent sat alone in a hotel room with a series of pill jars of painkillers in front of him.
His shoulder was frozen - and he couldn't raise his arm over his shoulder.
He got to play injured.
- That is only a small part of it all, but it is clear that it has been difficult to play when you have not been able to perform to the maximum - because you were in pain. It's just a hockey part of it all.
At home in Sweden, Lias has lived at home with mother Jessica and dad Niklas - and got to see the younger brother Noah SHL debut for Färjestad. He has met friends and greeted Jacob Moverare, who rents Andersson's apartment in central Gothenburg.
- Dad understood why I went home - and I think more people will. I've talked to my friends, my family, agents. They really understand why I went home. It feels safe, says Lias.
- When you don't know the whole truth, it can look like a fool's decision. But I'm not a spoiled shit kid who complains about not being allowed to play hockey for the New York Rangers. That's not the thing. There are other factors.
During the past year, a number of hockey coaches were allowed to leave their clubs in the NHL. Among other things, Mike Babcock from the Toronto Maple Leafs was fired after bullying stories emerged.
Has it been anything like that for you, Lias - that you were bullied?
- I don't know what to say or what to answer. It's been tough, that's it. I will tell you when it's location.
V ad says the other Swedish players in the Rangers, such as Mika Zibanejad and Henrik Lundqvist?
- It is, of course, sad when you have come so close to each other on the private plane, that they become sad when such a thing happens. But on the other hand, health goes first - and they understand that too.
Starts - in Frölunda?

What then does Frölunda's coach Roger Rönnberg say about getting Lias Andersson as center - if he would like to start over in Sweden?
- Lias is a player I would welcome every day of the week. In soul and heart he is a Frölunda player. We can't discuss it because he is a Rangers player. In my eyes he is probably good at being out there, says Rönnberg.
Lias smiles when he hears the words.
- It feels safe to know that I am welcome. It has been nice to be able to come home to family and friends, to land from everything that has been. I want to go back to hockey soon and hunger to hockey, hopefully.
Andersson will be investigated in Gothenburg.
- I'll be back pretty good soon and shit. I don't think anything is broken. I'll be back to the doctor pretty soon and do an x-ray a week to see what's wrong. I hardly know myself.
 
They say he left because of mental health issues? Kravtsov seemed broken for a while too when he left. What is Knoblauch doing down there in Hartford?
 
They say he left because of mental health issues? Kravtsov seemed broken for a while too when he left. What is Knoblauch doing down there in Hartford?


maybe he just has mental issues or some issues NYR knows about which is why Quinn acted the way he did towards Andersson. only Andersson, Rangers and the contacts like agents, friends, family know the whole store. maybe something behind the scenes has happened that the fans don't know about
 
Honestly I still don't know what to say about it. Even if he felt he was being held to an unfair standard he wouldn't be the first prospect, from overseas or NA, that had to fight through that to make the NHL. A lot of that sounds like a puff piece to throw out bits of "it's not my fault it's the big bad Rangers fault" without actually giving any supposed details.

I mean he says there that he was the second best center on the team behind Zibanejad? Even with a pretty good camp it's clear he wasn't 2c material to start the season. If he truly believes that was his spot then he's not being realistic. While I'm not the biggest Strome booster around, Andersson will be lucky if one day he's as good as Strome is.

It ultimately sounds like he didn't feel supported by the Rangers one way or another and he felt slighted in terms of his NHL icetime and being sent to Hartford. Sounds like he didn't agree with the coaching staff. Sounds like he had unrealistic expectations for himself.
 
Honestly I still don't know what to say about it. Even if he felt he was being held to an unfair standard he wouldn't be the first prospect, from overseas or NA, that had to fight through that to make the NHL. A lot of that sounds like a puff piece to throw out bits of "it's not my fault it's the big bad Rangers fault" without actually giving any supposed details.

I mean he says there that he was the second best center on the team behind Zibanejad? Even with a pretty good camp it's clear he wasn't 2c material to start the season. If he truly believes that was his spot then he's not being realistic. While I'm not the biggest Strome booster around, Andersson will be lucky if one day he's as good as Strome is.

It ultimately sounds like he didn't feel supported by the Rangers one way or another and he felt slighted in terms of his NHL icetime and being sent to Hartford. Sounds like he didn't agree with the coaching staff. Sounds like he had unrealistic expectations for himself.
Good post.

The only thing I'll comment on is the bolded. It sounds to me like the coaching staff had expectations for him that he thought were unrealistic.
 
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What’s going on with Hartford? We’re doing great but that’s two top prospects left with a bad taste from their experience there. VK had some shady comments about what goes on in the room and how he was uncomfortable but we still don’t know what really happened. Now Lias. Don’t think it’s just excuses, maybe if Vitaly hadn’t had the same experience I would’ve said bs but this is something we need to fix immediately
 
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