ArtPeur
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Guess I'll check it out then
Edit. I thought the name felt familiar until I noticed it's actually a spin-off from the popular game, Cyberpunk 2077
OT: Let's talk about Movies and TV Shows, Part XXX (...how can this possibly go wrong)
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Guess I'll check it out then
Edit. I thought the name felt familiar until I noticed it's actually a spin-off from the popular game, Cyberpunk 2077
angusyoung
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Finding your feet? Awful title.
Thought it might have been a documentary about what happens when women undergo a massive breast reduction or a man with a protruding gut has a liposuction procedure.
The @GoodKiwi preferred qualifier when it comes to series — the word “limited.”
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Yeah, I'm always hoping that they'll run out of screenings and you won't be able to watch it.Finding your feet? Awful title.
Thought it might have been a documentary about what happens when women undergo a massive breast reduction or a man with a protruding gut has a liposuction procedure.
The @GoodKiwi preferred qualifier when it comes to series — the word “limited.”
angusyoung
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Worse than Fast and furious 17? I actually thought those movies were porno's.Finding your feet? Awful title.
Thought it might have been a documentary about what happens when women undergo a massive breast reduction or a man with a protruding gut has a liposuction procedure.
The @GoodKiwi preferred qualifier when it comes to series — the word “limited.”
Had it been made in the States,I could see that, but it's a British production.
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Feet, esp. when it comes to a lot of men, are an eyesore.Worse than Fast and furious 17? I actually thought those movies were porno's.
Had it been made in the States,I could see that, but it's a British production.
I don’t want to be “Finding Feet” that look anywhere like this:
Feet, armpits, nostrils, ear canals, missing or decaying, yellowed teeth — I don’t want to see any production title that evokes any of the above.
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That Landeskog Disappearance (I had to rename it, too tempting) thingy made the top 10 of most watched shows in Canada this week.Yeah, I'm always hoping that they'll run out of screenings and you won't be able to watch it.
It’s got 5 episodes and is based on a true story.
Only downside is that the original is in Norwegian and I’ll have to keep my eyes glued to the screen not to miss any subtitles (I hate dubbing, much prefer to hear the original actors’ voices).
But, it does have that dark, gloomy Scandinavian thematic and cinematography that I’ve experienced in similar productions, that always draws you in.
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What's this dubbing you speak of? I didn't think regular human beings used it.
I remember writing about Capitani TV series earlier. It's made in Luxembourg where they speak Italian, German, French, English and maybe one more. The voice-overs kicked in on Netflix by default but I didn't realize it for maybe 30 minutes.
It was for S2 of of the show and I didn't watch the first season on Netflix. So I was watching and wondering why S2 has gone to hell. It felt horrible and off, but I couldn't pint it out. You see - early on they maybe spoke 5 total sentences of (English or otherwise) but the entire sound editing was off making it feel uber weird - like I was on some strong grass. It's hard to explain exactly, but try it - you will feel it right away. The soundtrack was non-stop, even over dialogue at times and it felt it was just a 10-15 second sound loop playing over and over. And their accents constantly switching from one language to another (I assume not every citizen speaks all 4-5 fluently and it was the same in S1), but then there were parts with perfectly spoken phrases. I mean it was weird AF.
Before I found and turned the English subs toggle off - I thought it was a new, ultra-progressive type of camera and sound work and was blaming myself not not "getting into it".
True story. The horribly made voice-over work in Capitani had me fooled for 30 minutes or so.
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As to Scandinavian shows - I believe this was my second one from Norway. It's the least represented group from this part of the world in my catalogue.
I've been "hammering" Northern Europe / Scandinavia the last few years. I'd say those made up 75% of my viewings. I can now predict a lot of productions pretty accurately based on their country of origin. We're not talking UK here - so writing and acting are not as strong so they all tend to fall into categories more or less.
This is my light-hearted generalization of it, don't mean to be offensive to anyone.
Finland - it's the weather man! It's the serial murderer we've been after. This struggle between the elements and characters is dominant. Dark. Long, brutal dismemberment with an icepick can be around the corner at any given time! Only the Welsh have tendencies to produce darker stuff, but no one can compete with Wales when it comes to human tragedy and misery. They probably wrote the manual on the sub-genre and passed it around to the rest of us.
Denmark - the dilemma of individuality versus the State. what is just and where's the line between duty and freedom of self fulfillment. Political drama + Denmark = very few things top that in my opinion. Flawed, might be, but wonderful and entertaining to watch twists and turns of their enourmous political machine. Who's who's secretary or of what - I've no idea but this is fun!
Iceland - they can murder by the dozen and, yeah, it's -40 and dark outside but we're stronger Probably the most naive of all but enjoyable to watch. They like to stay close to English/Scottish "soaps" as I call them. Think Broadchurch.
Sweden - who's going to out-whine whom? So much time on our hands and so many thoughts in our heads. We won't do anything really, but we'll discuss it! But the stoic centerpiece of the drama - usually a cop / detective of some sort doesn't whine! In fact he barely speaks! Just calmly and methodically goes about his business while everyone around him is whining non-stop!
P.S. I love them all!
P.P.S. I noticed that over time I'm now slowly moving away from Central Europe (but still haven't discored much of it) and going East. Polish, Chesz and I think I got a Romanian show queued up. Southern Europe I sadly do not like (portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain) so been skipping it completely.
I've been "hammering" Northern Europe / Scandinavia the last few years. I'd say those made up 75% of my viewings. I can now predict a lot of productions pretty accurately based on their country of origin. We're not talking UK here - so writing and acting are not as strong so they all tend to fall into categories more or less.
This is my light-hearted generalization of it, don't mean to be offensive to anyone.
Finland - it's the weather man! It's the serial murderer we've been after. This struggle between the elements and characters is dominant. Dark. Long, brutal dismemberment with an icepick can be around the corner at any given time! Only the Welsh have tendencies to produce darker stuff, but no one can compete with Wales when it comes to human tragedy and misery. They probably wrote the manual on the sub-genre and passed it around to the rest of us.
Denmark - the dilemma of individuality versus the State. what is just and where's the line between duty and freedom of self fulfillment. Political drama + Denmark = very few things top that in my opinion. Flawed, might be, but wonderful and entertaining to watch twists and turns of their enourmous political machine. Who's who's secretary or of what - I've no idea but this is fun!
Iceland - they can murder by the dozen and, yeah, it's -40 and dark outside but we're stronger Probably the most naive of all but enjoyable to watch. They like to stay close to English/Scottish "soaps" as I call them. Think Broadchurch.
Sweden - who's going to out-whine whom? So much time on our hands and so many thoughts in our heads. We won't do anything really, but we'll discuss it! But the stoic centerpiece of the drama - usually a cop / detective of some sort doesn't whine! In fact he barely speaks! Just calmly and methodically goes about his business while everyone around him is whining non-stop!
P.S. I love them all!
P.P.S. I noticed that over time I'm now slowly moving away from Central Europe (but still haven't discored much of it) and going East. Polish, Chesz and I think I got a Romanian show queued up. Southern Europe I sadly do not like (portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain) so been skipping it completely.
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Very informative synopsis by country.
As an aside, my daughter (who shall remain nameless), has written and performed songs that were picked up by Netflix for 8 different projects a few years ago and some were Scandinavian series so that got me to watch more than I would otherwise. Just a lot of fun when you see stuff on Netflix from someone close to you, but I digress.
If you should have any favorite titles handy for each one, I’d be much obliged.
Thanks as always, for sharing.
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My apologies, but I'll probably get to it another day. Not for the lack of time atm, just that all the shows are so mixed up in my head as I bits and pieces were flashing in my mind while wrting the above. Won't make for a good or reasonably selective list at the moment, sorry.
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Okay, can't resist my temptation. One favourite? Borgen. Both original and new. It my clear favourite. Maybe The Bridge as a rather distant second.
After that it gets murky and I will need to think about it.
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Last thing I'll say on the subject matter (TV series, European specifically) is that, while UK & BBC are still my very favourite the scene and makeup of shows has changed and is changing still. The British have lapped the field in TV drama, easily top in the world and now it's becoming tougher and tougher to absorb a lot of their top productions.
It's not about emotions, internal stuggles, unfair and broken lives. It is no longer about sexuality, religion or race. Not about any of those difficult and horrifying subjects that The British were first to show us all. This is why they're pioneers - they stormed any impossibly difficult to portray or be neutral of parts of our society. The US, Canada are not even walking yet, still in our diapers this side of the pond true drama-wise. Of course Unforgiven or River come to mind right away. Can you kill your mother and justify it and if so are you are a murderer or a victim? Can you have Church the only thing in your live, belive and give it all while being gay and living with an underaged " imported" Asian lover? Just some examples here that were approached and shone light to.
"Sing, you nutter!" - one of the most loving things Ive heard in TV series if you watched and knew the subject matter. This is why the Brits are the best at it.
That was UK drama television even 5 years aog. It's now nuanced and often reflective of yearly / monthly changes their countries and their population are going though. It's smart, multi-dimensional. It's a daily routine of clever or not very so individual. It's that reflection of every day - of poor or rich, black brown or white that everyone's after with a microscope.
Take "The Respondee" for example. It's the face of new UK TV drama. Loved the show, loved Freeman in it as always but it was one very tough nut to crack. Difficult difficult regional slang, highly nuanced, broken dialogue requires breaks every 15-20 minutes if you really want to understand what they're discussing as the context or the sub-plot.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that - it's starting to feel like work with British/Irish content. You were never "welcome" to those shows as an outsider. Because you need to be there, live there, in that county, city or neighbourhood to "get it". Now you need to have lived on that street and "roomied " with characters for ten years to understand them. I often wonder if it's easy to absorb for a local or not. If someone is in the position to reply - please do.
I'm close to Enagland especially since I work for a UK company, travel there several times per year, most of my co-workers are from there and so on. But I can no longer board that train.
I know I ventured into deep waters here. Just that I'm very passionate about this stuff - it's one of my few hobbies and points of great interest.
It's not about emotions, internal stuggles, unfair and broken lives. It is no longer about sexuality, religion or race. Not about any of those difficult and horrifying subjects that The British were first to show us all. This is why they're pioneers - they stormed any impossibly difficult to portray or be neutral of parts of our society. The US, Canada are not even walking yet, still in our diapers this side of the pond true drama-wise. Of course Unforgiven or River come to mind right away. Can you kill your mother and justify it and if so are you are a murderer or a victim? Can you have Church the only thing in your live, belive and give it all while being gay and living with an underaged " imported" Asian lover? Just some examples here that were approached and shone light to.
"Sing, you nutter!" - one of the most loving things Ive heard in TV series if you watched and knew the subject matter. This is why the Brits are the best at it.
That was UK drama television even 5 years aog. It's now nuanced and often reflective of yearly / monthly changes their countries and their population are going though. It's smart, multi-dimensional. It's a daily routine of clever or not very so individual. It's that reflection of every day - of poor or rich, black brown or white that everyone's after with a microscope.
Take "The Respondee" for example. It's the face of new UK TV drama. Loved the show, loved Freeman in it as always but it was one very tough nut to crack. Difficult difficult regional slang, highly nuanced, broken dialogue requires breaks every 15-20 minutes if you really want to understand what they're discussing as the context or the sub-plot.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that - it's starting to feel like work with British/Irish content. You were never "welcome" to those shows as an outsider. Because you need to be there, live there, in that county, city or neighbourhood to "get it". Now you need to have lived on that street and "roomied " with characters for ten years to understand them. I often wonder if it's easy to absorb for a local or not. If someone is in the position to reply - please do.
I'm close to Enagland especially since I work for a UK company, travel there several times per year, most of my co-workers are from there and so on. But I can no longer board that train.
I know I ventured into deep waters here. Just that I'm very passionate about this stuff - it's one of my few hobbies and points of great interest.
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Habs Icing
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Are you confessing to a #metoo incident?...underrated show of the 70's:
The Bionic Woman
...luved Lindsay Wagner when I was a kid...
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How did I know that you'd slip River in there, somewhere?
Your murderous scenario brought to mind an old French film whose title and subject matter was extremely shocking when it came out in the mid-70s:
I suspect that if I looked further into French cinema, they also likely have in their repertoire the type of films you describe.
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Catanddogguitarrr
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An Epic Battle of Albator. Wow !! Just W O W !!! .... lol
Dark, totally japanese, pirate, samouraï, I love this, I love this !!
Dark, totally japanese, pirate, samouraï, I love this, I love this !!
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Catanddogguitarrr
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Reminds me good old french movie of 1972 Que la bête meure, Claude Chabrol with Jean Yanne and Michel Duchaussoy. Le samourai 1967 with Delon. La Piscine with Delon and Mireille Darc. And many Belmondo, Lino Ventura and Michel Constantin.How did I know that you'd slip River in there, somewhere?
Your murderous scenario brought to mind an old French film whose title and subject matter was extremely shocking when it came out in the mid-70s:
I suspect that if I looked further into French cinema, they also likely have in their repertoire the type of films you describe.
from wiki :
Critiques
Le face-à-face entre les deux hommes est féroce et complexe, nuancé d'une réflexion morale sur la légitimité de la vengeance et de la condamnation4.Selon Éric Libiot5, Que la bête meure, « une des œuvres phares de Claude Chabrol », n'a pas pris une ride, la confrontation entre un père et le meurtrier de son fils est « un modèle du genre ».
Titre du film
Le titre du roman de Nicholas Blake, The Beast Must Die, et donc de la traduction française du roman et du titre du film de Chabrol Que la bête meure, est inspiré d'un passage de l'Ecclésiaste 3:19 de la Bible :
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Speaking of Lino Ventura, did you ever see this amazing crime comedy:
One of the most hilarious flicks I’ve ever seen in any language. It holds up beautifully despite having been made in 1963.
Catanddogguitarrr
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Tonton Flingueur is a classic. I Love it !
Don't mess around with Lino Ventura, lol, he's really strong !!
Imagine the goon Ventura could have been in hockey !!
I love the Ventura movies. The funny ones and the serious ones too.
One of my most favorite is Ne nous fâchons pas.
So funny. It's like a comic strip comedy. With british kindda pop music. Like a Tarantino 40 years before.
Lino Ventura, Michel Constantin, Mireille Darc and Jean Lefebvre.
Mireille Darc, most beautiful woman ever !!
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Don’t know it. I’d need to find a way to watch French films on demand. I locate English language originals online easily but always hit a snag when trying to find films from France. I gotta keep searching.
Been dying to watch Les Tontons Flingueurs again but other than excerpts on YouTube, can’t locate a full version.
Catanddogguitarrr
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I know it's hard. But we can find some of it. I know a guy who downloaded some french tv series for me. Youtube have some french movies and the have the complete Wild wild west in french. "Les Mysteres de l'Ouest" in a good quality. There is one Daniel Boone in french and all Destination Danger (Danger Man).
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I always prefer the original language versions of any film or series. For me, there is no substitute for an actor’s delivery, voice inflection and overall performance he or she will give to a role.
Catanddogguitarrr
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You could be surprised. Some actors of dubbling are superstars in their art. They can improve or get very close to the original. Most actors double their voice after in studio because on the set the sound is wasted. Actors are great with their acting but they don't have neccesary a great voice if you concentrate only on that part. The dubbling actors usually have a great voice, they do that all the time, they become experts.
edit : I saw some best moments of Ne nous fâchons pas on youtube, 5 or 6 of them. It's the same director as Les Tontons Flinguers, Lautner. There is also the music montage. It's made with good colours.
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I started watching it and I’ll likely finish it, but I’m not crazy about it.
I did think it seemed similar to Jon Benet’s case at first, but one main, important difference.
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