OT: Let's talk about Movies and TV Shows, Part XXX (...how can this possibly go wrong)

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Dog movies are usually good.

Lol one of the first things they teach you in film class is, DO NOT USE PETS.

They say it's gimmicky and pets on set are a hassle.

 

[peate]

Lol one of the first things they teach you in film class is, DO NOT USE PETS.

They say it's gimmicky and pets on set are a hassle.

Probably right, but in this case, he's an importent part of the story.

 

[Andrei79]

Yea. I've seen a video of how fast she was going. A neighbor's doorbell camera shows her speeding down a residential street and you can hear the crash.

She suffered from severe burns from crashing into the home. She nearly killed a woman and her dogs, who were inside the house. But the home owner lost a lot of things that were personal and sentimental as a result.

In fact, Heche had another accident before this. But she fled the scene of the first crash before she ended up crashing into the house.

I don't feel any sympathy for Heche here.

Didnt Heche have manic episodes where she was quite psychotic in the past? I haven't followed what was going on with her recently, but people become so disinhibited and lacking judgement they often start taking, retaking or exaggerating on substances to the point events like this can happen. I'm not saying this is what happened, but I wouldn't judge too quickly in her case. I know she had a lot of issues even beyond that though. She came from a broken home.

 

[Runner77]

I enjoyed the ending of BCS. It delivered an outcome that looped the loop.

I would have liked to see them do alternate endings. It would be an entertaining option whenever a series has a long run, such as this one.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Walt "so, you were always like this!"

I lol'ed

 

[Andy]

Westworld:

Season 1 was brilliant. One of the best things I have ever seen.

Season 2: a little bloated, but the themes and ideas were insane. Not as good as season 1, but still thought provoking and fun to watch.

Season 3: what a piece of crap.

Season 4: what a piece of crap.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Not sure if an English version exists but, this could be a very spellbinding story. Dog movies are usually good.

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Talking about a dog in a show, I never saw that tv serie in the mid seventies but they did a dog show "Run Joe Run" ; a german sheppard wronfully accused and reward. He escape all the time but a ranger beleive he's innocent and he tryes to catch him and prove he's innocent. So it's like the show the Fugitive but with a dog. The ranger is played by Arch Whiting, who was Sparks in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. His real name is Harold Joseph Archambault, born in a small town near NY.

I could make a short story about his life : he started as an assistant of Ed Sullivan Show, he played in a tv ad for tootpaste when he did some money, then moved to LA where he was a barman, this is where he met tv producers looking for small roles. He looked good enough to be on tv. He played also on Run for your life, Startrek, Mannix, Streets of SF, about 20 small roles in many shows. After Run Joe Run show he rented his house in LA and used that money to traveled camping all across usa and Canada with a VW Camper, with his family. He did the same in Europe in the 80's and even did it in East Asia where he got seriously sick and almost dyed. He return to usa when he was healed and went to the autograph signing with the other actors of Vogage TTBO the Sea like Del Monroe, Terry Baker and others. He was amazed he had followers even if his role on that show was a small one.

 

[A55P2]

Westworld:

Season 1 was brilliant. One of the best things I have ever seen.

Season 2: a little bloated, but the themes and ideas were insane. Not as good as season 1, but still thought provoking and fun to watch.

Season 3: what a piece of crap.

Season 4: what a piece of crap.

There were strong episodes in season 4 though, more than season 3. I also think I'll have to rewatch the whole thing at some point.

I feel we're pondering too much what it's all about in the show. It's good to think, but by the time a new seasons come in I feel a bit lost. I watched a recap video during season 3 and it helped, but I skipped it this time. Probably should have watched one.

Anyway, I did enjoy season 4, but yeah season 1 was just something else. I remember at the time thinking "wow, this is the best show on the planet right now". It all felt like a leap forward in multiple aspects, storytelling, music, acting, etc. We can safely say it never surpassed that initial feeling, but I still feel we may see it as a complete story in the future and judge it less harshly than right now.

 

[Habs Icing]

Didnt Heche have manic episodes where she was quite psychotic in the past? I haven't followed what was going on with her recently, but people become so disinhibited and lacking judgement they often start taking, retaking or exaggerating on substances to the point events like this can happen. I'm not saying this is what happened, but I wouldn't judge too quickly in her case. I know she had a lot of issues even beyond that though. She came from a broken home.

If I remember correctly she was molested by her dad or step-dad at home. We can say she had a rough start in life.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Westworld:

Season 1 was brilliant. One of the best things I have ever seen.

Season 2: a little bloated, but the themes and ideas were insane. Not as good as season 1, but still thought provoking and fun to watch.

Season 3: what a piece of crap.

Season 4: what a piece of crap.

One thing I don't get is If you thought season 3 was a piece of crap, how on earth did you end-up watching season 4? I'm pretty sure it's not a wife thing either?

I guess you prefer the complete park experience over the Synth dystopia as the series is pretty much split between these two currents. As an Asimov fan, I loved both parts. As a an avid student of behavioral biology, like most sci-fi shows, it made me cringe (oddly, except for Raised by Wolves).

Although I hated a lot of the story choices as the show went on, it's still a TV masterpiece.

 

[Habs Icing]

I enjoyed the ending of BCS. It delivered an outcome that looped the loop.

I would have liked to see them do alternate endings. It would be an entertaining option whenever a series has a long run, such as this one.

I didn't post this here to contradict you but simply because you brought up BCS. I found the series uneven. Lots of useless fillers and the last episode was meh although I do agree the outcome was unexpected. And what really grinded my gears was they played fast and loose with Jimmy's character. In Breaking Bad and the beginning of BCS he wasn't a total greedhead but all of a sound he becomes one towards the end of BCS' last season so they can set up that ending where he sacrifices himself for his ex. I found the show was flawed with the typical mistake made by many films and TV shows: characters' actions are dictated by the plot and not their motivation. Another example of that is Kim deciding to leave him.

P.S. I know I'm in a very small minority who feels this way.

 

[Deebs]

Westworld:

Season 1 was brilliant. One of the best things I have ever seen.

Season 2: a little bloated, but the themes and ideas were insane. Not as good as season 1, but still thought provoking and fun to watch.

Season 3: what a piece of crap.

Season 4: what a piece of crap.

Very much agree. After the first season it was trash

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I didn't post this here to contradict you but simply because you brought up BCS. I found the series uneven. Lots of useless fillers and the last episode was meh although I do agree the outcome was unexpected. And what really grinded my gears was they played fast and loose with Jimmy's character. In Breaking Bad and the beginning of BCS he wasn't a total greedhead but all of a sound he becomes one towards the end of BCS' last season so they can set up that ending where he sacrifices himself for his ex. I found the show was flawed with the typical mistake made by many films and TV shows: characters' actions are dictated by the plot and not their motivation. Another example of that is Kim deciding to leave him.

P.S. I know I'm in a very small minority who feels this way.

What the hell are you even talking about? Saul was always trying to raise his rates to Walt and Jessy in Breaking Bad. They didn't change his character.

Maybe you're just not good at interpreting character motivations, because it actually flows smootly. They set-up every motivations correctly. Jimmy is a conflicted character throughout BCS, for many reasons, chief among them are Chuck, Kim & Hugo and we see him change as he resolves those internal conflicts. Same for Kim, going through her mother, a con, and Jimmy, also a con. Kim leaving Jimmy after Hamelin is murdered by Lalo was entirely set-up through those internal conflicts she had. Through scenes with her mother and through her relationship with Jimmy. Ffs, she almost left him before when he flew off the handle and made his big show in front of Kevin Wachtell.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

One thing that was kind of a letdown in BCS was not seeing Bill Burr re-up his role as Kuby. Would've loved to see him added to the origins. Was it because he's now bald?

 

[Habs Icing]

What the hell are you even talking about? Saul was always trying to raise his rates to Walt and Jessy in Breaking Bad. They didn't change his character.

Maybe you're just not good at interpreting character motivations, because it actually flows smootly. They set-up every motivations correctly. Jimmy is a conflicted character throughout BCS, for many reasons, chief among them are Chuck, Kim & Hugo and we see him change as he resolves those internal conflicts. Same for Kim, going through her mother, a con, and Jimmy, also a con. Kim leaving Jimmy after Hamelin is murdered by Lalo was entirely set-up through those internal conflicts she had. Through scenes with her mother and through her relationship with Jimmy. Ffs, she almost left him before when he flew off the handle and made his big show in front of Kevin Wachtell.

Sorry, I put a tiny dent in that ego of yours and got your feathers all ruffled up. Apparently according to you your interpretation is the right one.

In Breaking Bad Jimmy was bending over backward to take care of his mentally disturbed brother. That's one example of where Jimmy wasn't selfish and self-centered. As for your weak sauce analysis of Kim, please. You don't become a con because your mom was one. She was attracted and chose Jimmy because she was a con. It means he gave her an outlet for what she had in her. Her leaving Jimmy was a deus ex machina. The story needed her to leave him so they plotted it that way without any credible motivation.

But as I said in my original post, I realize I am in the minority but that wasn't good enough for your damn ego.

 

[peate]

Sorry, I put a tiny dent in that ego of yours and got your feathers all ruffled up. Apparently according to you your interpretation is the right one.

But as I said in my original post, I realize I am in the minority but that wasn't good enough for your damn ego.

That's a little rough.

What I found fascinating about Kim was her seemingly lack of emotion in her relationship with Jimmy.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

What the hell are you even talking about? Saul was always trying to raise his rates to Walt and Jessy in Breaking Bad. They didn't change his character.

Maybe you're just not good at interpreting character motivations, because it actually flows smootly. They set-up every motivations correctly. Jimmy is a conflicted character throughout BCS, for many reasons, chief among them are Chuck, Kim & Hugo and we see him change as he resolves those internal conflicts. Same for Kim, going through her mother, a con, and Jimmy, also a con. Kim leaving Jimmy after Hamelin is murdered by Lalo was entirely set-up through those internal conflicts she had. Through scenes with her mother and through her relationship with Jimmy. Ffs, she almost left him before when he flew off the handle and made his big show in front of Kevin Wachtell.

Loved the Finale. My favourite show of all time I think. It’s pretty close.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Westworld:

Season 1 was brilliant. One of the best things I have ever seen.

Season 2: a little bloated, but the themes and ideas were insane. Not as good as season 1, but still thought provoking and fun to watch.

Season 3: what a piece of crap.

Season 4: what a piece of crap.

This is where I differ. I couldn’t get into any of it. Season 1, I watched because everyone kept saying how good it was and it just didn’t do anything for me. I started season 2 and thought it was worse than season 1 which I thought was already barely watchable.


Everyone enjoyed season 1 for the most part, so it might have been a time in my life when I just couldn’t get into it. I think I’ll revisit it and see if my opinion changes.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Last thread was a tad over 1000 posts.

So let's start this a repost of my take on (...of all things) Wild Things. It's probably gonna age superbly.

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I just watched a great piece of art that I had somehow missed in my teen years.

This was ... not as "so bad it's good" as what I've been hinted; they clearly wanted to go full-sleaze and really nailed it. It's actually a decent movie and as far as I'm concerned nowhere near bad enough to warrant the "So bad it's good" tag. Denise Richards can't act but it's not why she's in the movie anyways. What's with that ridiculous blue 1-piece swimsuit anyways? (you can google it; I don't think I can post this)
This also has to be one of the most ridiculously and uselessly convoluted plot it ends up in borderline comedic territory, and you may probaly safely drop the "borderline".

It's totally trashy, it's totally a bad taste movie, but it's enjoyable.

I used to think Denise Richards was hotter in my youth, but I have such a crush on Neve Campbell these days…. Something about her just makes her absolutely perfect.

 

[MXD]

I used to think Denise Richards was hotter in my youth, but I have such a crush on Neve Campbell these days…. Something about her just makes her absolutely perfect.

I think they wanted to give her something of a trash look for this one but ended up giving her solid goth-ish feel instead.

 

[Habsawce]

Watched the Gray man. Basically a shittier version of Bourne Identity.

 

[ClasslessGuy]

Watching Beast tonight… wish me luck

 

[peate]

BCS finale was excellent. The bus ride cracked me up, and I loved the actors comments at the end.

 

[Milhouse40]

 

[ClasslessGuy]

Watching Beast tonight… wish me luck

So it's not a good movie, I would've enjoyed it for free on Netflix on a boring summer night when everyone else is asleep and the wife has a headache.


Seriously, I went in knowing what it was, but the movie start kinda realistic, and it goes downhill for no reason.