tmlfan98
No More Excuses #MarnerOut
I'm really liking our late inning trio of Osuna, Storen, and Cecil going into spring training. It's no Aroldis, Miller, and Betances but still great nonetheless.
Blue Jays Discussion: Let the post-winter-meeting, pre-spring-training baseball withdrawl commence!
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If the Jays could find a way to sign Yovani Gallarado, my confidence goes through the roof. One pitcher would allow every one to slide down a peg in the rotation; and then suddenly Sanchez in the bullpen is a lock. Or you could even try out Sanchez as a starter and trade Dickey for a reliever when everyone's of the market and pitching becomes even more valuable. Stroman slides in nice as a #2. Estrada would be a great 3 and Happ would do well as a #4.
Gallarado
Estrada
Stroman
Happ
Sanchez/Chavez
bullpen
CL Storen
SU - Cecil
SU - Osuna
MR (traded reliever from Dickey)
MR - Loup
MR - Shultz/Tepera/Delebar etc
LP - Chavez
top 5 offence
top 10 pitching
Gallarado
Estrada
Stroman
Happ
Sanchez/Chavez
bullpen
CL Storen
SU - Cecil
SU - Osuna
MR (traded reliever from Dickey)
MR - Loup
MR - Shultz/Tepera/Delebar etc
LP - Chavez
top 5 offence
top 10 pitching
Eyedea
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Gallardo* is not a #1, or better than Stroman, and he has a comp pick attached to him.
tml19
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1. Do you really have Gallardo over Stro
2. Top 5 offence???????????? This offence will blow any other team out of the water as long as injuries and serious declines in performance don't occur.
3. You are forgetting the top 5 defense
Diamond Joe Quimby
A$AP Joffrey
In my opinion Gallardo would do well in the dome with his ground ball ratio. Stroman is better (obviously) but Gallarado would be a default #1. Not a true #1 obviously. I don't think we believe Drew Hutchison was a number 1...
As for our offence; I think we will be top 5. It's not set in stone we will blow everyone away next season. It's not like we can predict all 3 of Donaldson, Bautista, And Edwin will be healthy all year. I'm being safe by saying top 5. You never know. Tulo and Bautista could get injured a month into the season.
As for our offence; I think we will be top 5. It's not set in stone we will blow everyone away next season. It's not like we can predict all 3 of Donaldson, Bautista, And Edwin will be healthy all year. I'm being safe by saying top 5. You never know. Tulo and Bautista could get injured a month into the season.
Toronto Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins guests on Brady & Walker to explain his rationale for trading outfielder Ben Revere to the Washington Nationals in return for relief pitcher Drew Storen, what this means for the lead-off role in the batting lineup, the makeup of the bullpen and the starting rotation, how his planning evolves given the changing nature of the game, laying out the future of Edwin Encarnacion & Jose Bautista with the club, and on his first few weeks on the job.
http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand-4/Ross-Atkins-with-Andrew-Walker-bw-20160111-Interview.mp3
http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand-4/Ross-Atkins-with-Andrew-Walker-bw-20160111-Interview.mp3
Eyedea
The Legend Continues
Woodman19
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Not if it means we can turn around and trade Dickey for a useful piece elsewhere and free up the 25th spot on the roster for a real catcher. By useful I am thinking I like the idea of Melancon to then push Osuna and Sanchez closer to the rotation.
tmlfan98
No More Excuses #MarnerOut
Dickey has pitched an average of 219 innings for 5 consecutive seasons while putting up an ERA of 3.57 during that span. Gallardo has pitched an average of 194 innings with a 3.66 ERA in that same span, and his last 200 inning season came in 2012. Considering that fact that no one else in the Blue Jays rotation as it stands now has ever pitched 200 innings, trading our only 200 inning guy would be putting way too much faith in our relievers and would be incredibly risky.
Diamond Joe Quimby
A$AP Joffrey
I would deal Dickey based on the return, but Dickey is getting a little underrated over here
tml19
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He won't return anything more then he is worth to the jays. The only reason to move him would be to dump salary.
Diamond Joe Quimby
A$AP Joffrey
Pittsburgh's management is too intelligent for that (even considering Melancon's decline). I like the cut of your jib, though.
SeaOfBlue
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Anything wrong with Matt Latos? Probably a cheap one year deal with a lot of upside as a SP. Could trade Dickey, sign him for a fraction of the price, and let him play into a good contract next year.
Of course, coming to a hitter's park is not the best way to recoup value. But he has opportunities on a good team here as well.
Of course, coming to a hitter's park is not the best way to recoup value. But he has opportunities on a good team here as well.
tml19
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What happens when he bombs and you have to find a way to eat up 200 innings? What are you planning on doing with that extra money? This makes no sense.
The Nemesis
Semper Tyrannus
He's played for 4 teams in the last 2 years because he's apparently toxic enough that nobody wants to hang onto him. And that's on top of not pitching all that well.
The Nemesis
Semper Tyrannus
He's criticizing the logic of said paragraph. If I were a betting man, I'd wager that he takes issue with the assertion that Gallardo would slot ahead of Stroman and be more of a "#1" when the last time Gallardo had a season that came anywhere close to resembling what Stroman has done in his career so far was 2011. It's also worth noting that Stroman is more of a GB pitcher than Gallardo is.
Muston Atthews
Bunch of Bangerz
Marcus Stroman's showing off his rapping skills on the remix to Mike Stud's 'These Days'. Has some language so I won't embed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s_h6eacgtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s_h6eacgtA
Woodman19
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Whats a Jib?
lol, seriously though (anybody know anything about any launch coooooodes) I am happy with any good potentially great relief pitcher with little control for Dickey. It gives us the opportunity to get Sanchez and Osuna in the rotation where they belong (Sanchez less so) and put us on path to transition to a cheap rotation which could help us fit Jose, Donaldson and Edwin together for a little longer.
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