GDT: Let the Free Agency Madness begin

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I’d hate that.

Play him on 3rd line 1PP and then just let him walk at the end of the year if he’s not in the future plans. “Own rental” etc etc.

This is a team we’ve been saying needs more forwards, not less. This is also a team that needs to (smartly, safely) go “all in” this year. Getting rid of TT would seem to me to be a step back.

You don't get what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a defacto swap of TT for Bertuzzi if the market for him is soft. We've already added that extra forward in Bunting, but Bertuzzi gives us a size and toughness upgrade for a year if Turbo is used in the Karlsson trade. Bunting also was known to kill penalties, so he can also take that role, as well.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

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Thanks, because I posted that assuming they’d play in Raleigh this year, but never really checked.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

You don't get what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a defacto swap of TT for Bertuzzi if the market for him is soft. We've already added that extra forward in Bunting, but Bertuzzi gives us a size and toughness upgrade for a year if Turbo is used in the Karlsson trade. Bunting also was known to kill penalties, so he can also take that role, as well.

I’m saying I think we can fit and keep both.

 

[User13452]

Youre gonna have to trust me on this one. I know for a fact and have direct knowledge of it. Should be announced next few days. Few more details to iron out

Anything else you can tell us aav heard anything ahaha

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Not sure it’s really a step back if it’s gonna be the same TT that played last year that was basically invincible when he played

That’s a funny typo

 

[User13452]

That’s a funny typo

He wasn’t great last year and if we can get bertuzzi in at a similar price you definitely move teravainen

 

[Brock Anton]

I’m saying I think we can fit and keep both.

If we don't get Karlsson, then yes, we can fit both TT and Bertuzzi by trading Skjei. If we trade for Karlsson, TT has to go due to cap.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

If we don't get Karlsson, then yes, we can fit both TT and Bertuzzi by trading Skjei. If we trade for Karlsson, TT has to go due to cap.

Not if we trade Skjei and Pesce

 

[spockBokk]

I don’t really like the idea of sacrificing Teravainen for Bertuzzi.

If they could get Karlsson at 50% somehow, also adding TDA would pretty much negate them being able to add another high dollar forward. I think they’d only have $2-3M in space at best after those additions, even after subtracting both Pesce and Skjei, provided they take no salary back on those potential deals.

Edit- just playing around on CapFriendly if they dump both Pesce and Skjei, acquire Karlsson at 50% and acquire TDA at 50%, with a 20 man roster they’d have $6.4M in space

 

[User13452]

Not if we trade Skjei and Pesce

Probably still has to go unless they get karlsson at 50 retained and bertuzzi under 6

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Probably still has to go unless they get karlsson at 50 retained and bertuzzi under 6

Depends on when Svech is back. LTIR can get us some space back.

 

[Chrispy]

Depends on when Svech is back. LTIR can get us some space back.

Only temporarily. They need to be compliant with Svech in order to activate Svech.

That means making a deal by then to shed salary or someone else getting hurt.

 

[mikeyfan]

Right now we have $2,823,023.00 in Cap space if we Get EK for 40% retained his cost will be $6,900,000.00 per year. If we Trade Pesce, Drury and TT for EK, We will end up with $6,273,023.00 in cap space. Take away 2.5 million for TDA @ 50% retained and we will have $3,773,023 Remaining.

I don't think Bert is going to accept a $3.7 million contract. So I would suggest a contract at $3.5 million with 2.5 to 3.5 million in bonuses, which will by my understanding, allow that bonus money to be applied to next years cap.

That is how I can see the Canes landing EK and Bert or Tank

 

[Brock Anton]

Not if we trade Skjei and Pesce

I mean, I guess, but the only way that works is if Karlsson becomes a 3-team trade where we move one of Skjei/Pesce to a third team. Because I can't imagine why San Jose would want both.

Seems much easier and straight forward to leave out the third team and trade Skjei/Pesce and Teravainen along with futures to San Jose and then move the other D-man to another team in a seperate trade for futures/cap room to sign Bertuzzi (or in a hockey trade for a forward).

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I mean, I guess, but the only way that works is if Karlsson becomes a 3-team trade where we move one of Skjei/Pesce to a third team. Because I can't imagine why San Jose would want both.

Seems much easier and straight forward to leave out the third team and trade Skjei/Pesce and Teravainen along with futures to San Jose and then move the other D-man to another team in a seperate trade for futures/cap room to sign Bertuzzi (or in a hockey trade for a forward).

It doesn’t have to be a 3 team trade. Acquire Karlsson, trade Pesce, trade Skjei. 3 separate deals for 3 separate players.

 

[Brock Anton]

Right now we have $2,823,023.00 in Cap space if we Get EK for 40% retained his cost will be $6,900,000.00 per year. If we Trade Pesce, Drury and TT for EK, We will end up with $6,273,023.00 in cap space. Take away 2.5 million for TDA @ 50% retained and we will have $3,773,023 Remaining.

I don't think Bert is going to accept a $3.7 million contract. So I would suggest a contract at $3.5 million with 2.5 to 3.5 million in bonuses, which will by my understanding, allow that bonus money to be applied to next years cap.

That is how I can see the Canes landing EK and Bert or Tank

You're forgetting that we'd still have the ability to trade Skjei as well to free up more space in this scenario. We're not paying Skjei $5M+ to play third pairing minutes.

 

[mikeyfan]

You're forgetting that we'd still have the ability to trade Skjei as well to free up more space in this scenario. We're not paying Skjei $5M+ to play third pairing minutes.

yes we have that ability, but Skjei has a M-NTC so our options are limited

 

[User13452]

Right now we have $2,823,023.00 in Cap space if we Get EK for 40% retained his cost will be $6,900,000.00 per year. If we Trade Pesce, Drury and TT for EK, We will end up with $6,273,023.00 in cap space. Take away 2.5 million for TDA @ 50% retained and we will have $3,773,023 Remaining.

I don't think Bert is going to accept a $3.7 million contract. So I would suggest a contract at $3.5 million with 2.5 to 3.5 million in bonuses, which will by my understanding, allow that bonus money to be applied to next years cap.

That is how I can see the Canes landing EK and Bert or Tank

Well skjei will probably be gone as well

 

[Brock Anton]

yes we have that ability, but Skjei has a M-NTC so our options are limited

It's a 10-team list. Odds are fairly good we'd be able to find a team who'd want him that's not on his list.

 

[spockBokk]

It's a 10-team list. Odds are fairly good we'd be able to find a team who'd want him that's not on his list.

Might be hard to find a team that would take him at his full salary without sending any back

 

[StormCast]

You don't get what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a defacto swap of TT for Bertuzzi if the market for him is soft. We've already added that extra forward in Bunting, but Bertuzzi gives us a size and toughness upgrade for a year if Turbo is used in the Karlsson trade. Bunting also was known to kill penalties, so he can also take that role, as well.

The next time Bunting kills penalties regularly will be his first time. He adds nothing there. He does play on the PP though. All of the moves being contemplated take an overall bite out of the PK.

 

[spockBokk]

yeah…random internet guy has no sources, was a fun hour of speculation:

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

lmao

 

[Brock Anton]

Might be hard to find a team that would tale him at his full salary without sending any back

It's impossible to know without knowing who's on the list, but there's always the scenario of flipping a pick or prospect to a team like Anaheim or Chicago to retain salary who'd then re-route him to a place that's acceptable.

 

[Unsustainable]

Your mods can feel free to do what they want with this one but bertuzzi and tda are confirmed to the canes. You guys are gonna be a wagon next year

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