Leon Draisaitl 3rd 110+ point season in 4 years...

[B A T M A N]

Loll there is absolutely no way Draisatl is the 2nd best player in the league.

He is top 5 but would easily have 20 less points if playing without McDavid. Just imagine how many points Kucherov, Pastrnak or MacKinnon would have playing with McDavid.

Mackinnon benefits more from playing with Makar and the Avs D/transition in general, and Rantanen. Drai on that team would blow Mackinnon out of the water who can't seem to even score 100p.

 

[Duke74]

he absolutely isnt the 2nd best player. hes is not good defensively whatsoever, routinely blows the zone looking for odd man rushes and scores half (HALF) of his points on the PP lol.

Location: Toronto.

Color me shocked.

 

[Juxta Position]

Nobody on the planet thinks Matthews or anyone else is better than McDavid. McDavid is clearly the best player in the world.

Posts like this are foolish claiming there are Leaf fans or anyone else saying otherwise. Matthews vs Draisaitl is clearly close and obviously Draisaitl’s numbers are boosted by playing with one of the best offensive players in the history of the sport.

Matthews is constantly being boosted up into McDavid's tier by the media and social media alike, to say that isn't the case is to be living under a rock.

 

[Seanaconda]

Should just combine this with the McDavid thread where half the Leafs posts are saying McDavid is a product of drai.

Maybe if they didn't play together they would both be 60 point forwards lol

 

[Frank Drebin]

Oilers fans sure do have some sort of inferiority complex.

Yes, that certainly explains the amount of leaf fans that litter McDrai threads with horrible takes.

 

[Slicknitty]

Toronto fans are like that crazy guy who keeps talking to you about the second coming of christ and you're just like cool man but I'm just trying to walk home, please leave me alone, I don't care about your religious beliefs.

 

[McTonyBrar]

He's a good player obviously as it's not like everyone on the Oilers is getting 110+ points regularly.

However, I don't think he's a 110+ point player on any other team in the league.

HAHAHA HERE WE GO!!!!! Leafs dumb goggles are on. What's next my friend? Matthews is a Superstar? Marner is better than Leon? Giordano is an All Star?

 

[Shanahanigans]

Who cares what other people think of Draisaitl. He has 3 110 point seasons, 2 (on his way to 3) 50 goal seasons, and most importantly, has 59 points in 37 playoff games, including 32 in 16 games last year while playing injured. His performance speaks for itself.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Lol

Calling a 4 time and most likely 5 + time 100+ point player anything less on another team makes you sound desperate man. Stop it.

The guy is a complete tool. I wonder if he's Jeff O'Neill

 

[Galactico]

Mackinnon benefits more from playing with Makar and the Avs D/transition in general, and Rantanen. Drai on that team would blow Mackinnon out of the water who can't seem to even score 100p.

Rofl! Oilers fans basically saying McDavid has no impact on Draisatl production whatsoever and that Draisatl would have the same production on any team in the league LOL! You’re delusional.

MacKinnon would be pushing 130pts this year playing with McDavid.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Answer my question though. Stop dodging the actual question. Do you agree that Draisaitl is a 165 point player with McDavid if he played the majority of his time there and an 85 point player without him ?

No, that makes no sense. You're math doesn't add up, not even close.

 

[Spawn]

Rofl! Oilers fans basically saying McDavid has no impact on Draisatl production whatsoever and that Draisatl would have the same production on any team in the league LOL! You’re delusional.

MacKinnon would be pushing 130pts this year playing with McDavid.

Honestly I agree, MacKinnon would probably be pushing 130 points this year playing with McDavid.

Sort of like how Draisaitl is going to be pushing 130 points this year playing with McDavid.

 

[B A T M A N]

MacKinnon would be pushing 130pts this year playing with McDavid.

Isn't Makar better than Mcdavid according to some Avs fans? Why isn't he already pushing 130?

 

[Maverick41]

Location: Toronto.

Color me shocked.

Don't be mean. If not for posts like his I would never have known that 249 is half of 726.

 

[Galactico]

Funny thing is, if you take away his PP points

Isn't Makar better than Mcdavid according to some Avs fans? Why isn't he already pushing 130?

I always maintained that McDavid is a GOAT level player (since 2018 that is) and dissmised any fan saying that MacKinnon or Makar were better than McDavid.

MacKinnon currently has 90 pts in 59 games so 1.53 PPG, while Draisaitl has 106 pts in 69 games, good for 1.53PPG (same as MacKinnon) while playing with a top 3 player of all time that is having a season for the ages.

There is absolutely no way Draisatl would produce the same on any other team. He still a top player, but simply not the "2nd best player" in the game.

 

[B A T M A N]

I always maintained that McDavid is a GOAT level player (since 2018 that is) and dissmised any fan saying that MacKinnon or Makar were better than McDavid.

MacKinnon currently has 90 pts in 59 games so 1.53 PPG, while Draisaitl has 106 pts in 69 games, good for 1.53PPG (same as MacKinnon) while playing with a top 3 player of all time that is having a season for the ages.

There is absolutely no way Draisatl would produce the same on any other team. He still a top player, but simply not the "2nd best player" in the game.

Wrong. Draisaitl has 110/70, a higher PPG than Mackinnon LOL.

 

[Galactico]

Wrong. Draisaitl has 110/70, a higher PPG than Mackinnon LOL.

Ok wow, a merely 0.04PPG higher that MacKinnon when playing with McDavid and having half his points on the PP LOL.

 

[Saltcreek]

Probably the most embarrassing thread I have seen on HF in a long while. A certain fan base really needs to stop being so insecure about other players success

 

[McPoyle]

Active players with 50-50 seasons:

Ovechkin (x3)

Draisaitl (x2)

McDavid (x1)

Malkin (x1)

Crosby (x1)

A whos who of the best offensive talents in the modern era. Draisaitl has a very real possibility of having his 3rd 50-50 season this year, needs 6 goals in his final 10 games.

 

[Stealth1616]

Loll there is absolutely no way Draisatl is the 2nd best player in the league.

He is top 5 but would easily have 20 less points if playing without McDavid. Just imagine how many points Kucherov, Pastrnak or MacKinnon would have playing with McDavid.

Imagine how many less points Mackinnon would have without playing with Makar.

Does that sound a bit silly to you ?

 

[Stealth1616]

Rofl! Oilers fans basically saying McDavid has no impact on Draisatl production whatsoever and that Draisatl would have the same production on any team in the league LOL! You’re delusional.

MacKinnon would be pushing 130pts this year playing with McDavid.

Would he though?

He plays with Makar/Rantanen and can’t put up 130 pts lol

 

[Kerberos]

Before i get into this let me preface this with the "not all Leafs fans" statement and it's true, there is a vocal minority that this post is about.

First, it's not an obsession, it's frustration at the Leafs fans delusions that Matthews is even remotely close to McDavid.

Mathews has broken 80 points exactly twice in his career, has one 50 (yes I know he got to 60) goal 100 point season. and is not even in the same ball park as McDavid. I don't need to list all the things McDavid has done to prove he's in a class well above Matthews.

And Draisaitl has 3 100 point seasons, 2 (very possibly 3) 50 goal seasons, the only active player not named Ovechkin to have multiple 50 goal/50 assist seasons in the NHL. and Matthews "incredible 60 goal season" beat Draisaitl by a whopping 5 goals.

Yet Leafs fans constantly yell to anyone who will listen that their superstar is better than Leon, and on the same tier as McDavid, then say "why are you obsessed with Matthews?" when Oilers fans throw facts at them that Matthews is not as good as either of them.

Matthews is the 2nd best player on his own team let alone on a tier with McDavid.

Oh, and "pace" argument is junk. If a player didn't hit it, regardless of his "pace" it didn't happen.

If you want to use the pace argument, this would be McDavid's 7th consecutive 100 point season, as he had 97 points in 63 games when the league shut down for covid, which would put him 2nd all time to Gretzky's 13 consecutive 100 point seasons.

Stop shoehorning Matthews somewhere he doesn't belong, just to make you feel better about your own insecurities about your "superstars". Everyone knows a portion of Leafs fans are still salty, and will always be that they lost the draft lottery and were somehow "robbed" of McDavid. And because of this you prop Matthews up to tell yourself, "it's not a big deal we didn't get McDavid, we got Matthews, and he's just as good!" That's where the true obsession/delusion lies.

What a fantastic post. Nailed it.

 

[Galactico]

Imagine how many less points Mackinnon would have without playing with Makar.

Does that sound a bit silly to you ?

They are extremely good but playing with McDavid obviously translates to more points for a player. Ryan freaking Nugent-Opkins has more PP points than Kucherov and Pastrnak.

Anyway, Mack is probably more content with his Stanley Cup ring thay putting 10 more pts in a retular season.

 

[Stealth1616]

They are extremely good but playing with McDavid obviously translates to more points for a player. Ryan freaking Nugent-Opkins has more PP points than Kucherov and Pastrnak.

Anyway, Mack is probably more content with his Stanley Cup ring thay putting 10 more pts in a retular season.

I’d say the chemistry between McDavid and Drai and there differing skill sets are the reason why they are so successful on the power play.

Take Drai away and McDavid doesn’t have as many points as he does now

 

[GreeningOil]

he absolutely isnt the 2nd best player. hes is not good defensively whatsoever, routinely blows the zone looking for odd man rushes and scores half (HALF) of his points on the PP lol.

Kucherov has 43 of his 100 points on the Powerplay.

Perhaps a goal is a goal?