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Verbeek on the Ducks youtube when talking about consistency with the lineup, specifically referring to Leo said things should stabilize in the next 6 weeks or so. So that could be the timeline when the load management starts coming to an end.

Around the 4 min mark.
 
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2faded said:
Verbeek on the Ducks youtube when talking about consistency with the lineup, specifically referring to Leo said things should stabilize in the next 6 weeks or so. So that could be the timeline when the load management starts coming to an end.

Around the 4 min mark.
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I don’t care one way or another, but how exactly was four months of this “strength program” supposed to accomplish anything? Lol. Just commit to it for the year if your goal all along is to get him bigger.
 
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He was the player with third most TOI last game. They realy trust him a lot.
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He earned it, easily the best forward in the top 9 tonight I thought. Also helps that the power play had a ton of opportunities (and PP1 had sustained possession on a couple of them) and there was quite a bit of 4v4 time, so a lot of chances for him to drive offense.
 
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ff8 said:
I don’t care one way or another, but how exactly was four months of this “strength program” supposed to accomplish anything? Lol. Just commit to it for the year if your goal all along is to get him bigger.
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Verbeek said it would be a 2-month schedule and they'd revisit the process. It could be a year long process, but Verbeek is extending the program for another six weeks. The extended program will allow Carlsson to play three games instead of two games a week.

I guess the psychology behind it is the rest of the league will have been worn down after a few months and Carlsson will still be somewhat fresh when he transitions from part-time 1C into full-time 1C to end the season.

LaCombe and Minty started the season strong. After 23 games, their play has come down. Luneau is finally getting some games in and he's playing like Minty was to start the season. Luneau is also on the strength/body building program.
 
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I think the main focus for Leo was not a ripe early spoil late. A lot of first year players run out of gas as the season rolls along.

I think they want Carlsson playing strong in March and April.

John
 
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ff8 said:
I don’t care one way or another, but how exactly was four months of this “strength program” supposed to accomplish anything? Lol. Just commit to it for the year if your goal all along is to get him bigger.
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Why is one year a better answer than four months? Why not two years or five years? Is four months not an adequate time to accomplish the strength goals they set for him? And how would we possibly know that?
 
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JAHV said:
Why is one year a better answer than four months? Why not two years or five years? Is four months not an adequate time to accomplish the strength goals they set for him? And how would we possibly know that?
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also, it's not like he's just going to completely stop strength training once the plan is over, it's just easing him into more and more hockey while sticking to the plan
 
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Why is one year a better answer than four months? Why not two years or five years? Is four months not an adequate time to accomplish the strength goals they set for him? And how would we possibly know that?
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It's a two-part answer:

Part 1: Does it work and how much time is needed.

The NCAA plays 2 games per week. The rest of the week is for college, practices, weight training, and rest. Minnesota Gophers play 36 regular season games, which would equate to 18 weeks. That's about four months. It doesn't include any conference championship games or the NCAA tournament, if they qualify.

Part of the draw of going to the NCAA route is due to the weight training aspect. They have metrics that are tracked as proof of success.

With that knowledge, someone can create a specialized program for Carlsson as well as Luneau. They can also track the metrics of improvement from when they started if the individual has met the intended goal. Since the specialized program is probably individualized, the end goal may differ. The original thought for Carlsson was two months. After revisiting the progress, they're extending the process, but also also adding more games per week. The process may not be as intensive in this extension period.

Part 2: Why is this odd duration?

Verbeek wants Carlsson to gain NHL experience while weight training. It's apparent that Carlsson isn't a ripe prospect. The NHL exposure does give Verbeek insight on what he has in the prospect, which is valuable knowledge. If Carlsson stayed in the SHL, then the org would have to wait a year to see how well Carlsson's game can translate to the NHL level. Verbeek isn't stuck in the dark now with Carlsson in the NHL this season.

Since Verbeek made a commitment to Carlsson staying in the NHL all season, then Carlsson is now on an NHL schedule than an SHL. Carlsson can continue the weight training after the season, but already have NHL experience. This should give Carlsson a big jump in production between his rookie season and next. The big jump in production happened to Z and it's happening with Mac this year.
 
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Only thing it seems to be hurting is chemistry but he sure as hell has some with Killorn, if last night tells us anything.
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Yeah was just saying that in the PGT, and with him able to play 3 games a week, they can try and build on that chemistry.

Most of Killer’s points this season are with Leo. So yeah.
 
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The Midnight Burrito said:
How would we tell.
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Well, if it is hurting him, then his point totals would just be closer to Bedard, but dude is already on Bedards coat tails. So I guess what I'm saying is that if it is hurting him, it's not by much. I don't know that we could expect too much more from him even if he wasn't missing a game and there.
 
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