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Player Discussion Leo Carlsson

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This is pretty wild and unprecedented as far as I am aware of. What a strange organization we have.
 
The Midnight Burrito said:
Leo seemed fine to me. Honestly if there was a rookie you do this for it's Zegras, or some similarly skilled string bean, not Leo. Not sure the "hitting the rookie wall" thing is a major issue that has to be mitigated like this.
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What's interesting to me is what verbeek stressed when he was hired. It was almost like his fitness philosophy was a pillar of his GM eligibility and what he pitched to ownership.

I kind of wonder if there are some sort of internal metrics he wants kids to hit before he's comfortable throwing them in there.
 
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I imagine that is the pace until the all-star break and then they loosen the reigns a bit. He's getting the ohtani treatment
 
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Was hoping to see him play against the Islanders at UBS on 12/13… now I might have to get a ticket to see them vs the Rangers at MSG that week too hoping he plays one of those games lol
 
DuckDuckGetz said:
I'm not happy about it but imagine how cool it will be when he still beats out Bedard and Fantilli for the Calder (please let this happen)
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I have never wished for the failure of a player more than Bedard, Fantilli and McDavid (and the Swedish giraffe).

The odds are against Leo with this schedule, but i would love to stick it to Chicago.
 
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It feels like if he does 2 games a week and then switches to full time after two months he’s still going to play like 65 or maybe a few more games?
 
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AngelDuck said:
he’s neve

so he likely only plays 45-50 games this season

Folks should prepare themselves for that
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That 2 games a week through Nov equates to 14 games in the first 2 months. If they let him free after that, add another 61 games. Thats 75 games.

Now I think its possible there another 8-10 games on top that they will hold him out, but 50 games is low.
 
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CrazyDuck4u said:
. What we all think. It's f***ing stupid and there is something else they are not telling us
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Have to agree with the panel. How do you learn to deal with the workload if you are prevented from experiencing it. If you're concerned with overload manage his minutes not the games played. It really feels like PV is micromanaging the team.
 
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DavidBL said:
Have to agree with the panel. How do you learn to deal with the workload if you are prevented from experiencing it. If you're concerned with overload manage his minutes not the games played. It really feels like PV is micromanaging the team.
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I think this is as much strengthening and conditioning as it is load management. My guess is that they want him working on certain things in the weight room which require rest days. The games off are in service of that.

And I think this plan is significantly less micromanaging than forcing your head coach to bench a player at certain points in the game. This allows Cronin to do his job and read his players and the rhythms of the game without having to worry about an arbitrary minute governor on one of his top players. I think that would be more disruptive to Carlsson's development as a top line player.

I expect Carlsson will learn to deal with the workload over the second half of the season.
 
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Ducks told Carlsson he could play as long as he put up points. He scored one in his first game, so he played the next. He went scoreless, so now he doesn't get back in until he scores a goal :D
 
JAHV said:
I think this is as much strengthening and conditioning as it is load management. My guess is that they want him working on certain things in the weight room which require rest days. The games off are in service of that.

And I think this plan is significantly less micromanaging than forcing your head coach to bench a player at certain points in the game. This allows Cronin to do his job and read his players and the rhythms of the game without having to worry about an arbitrary minute governor on one of his top players. I think that would be more disruptive to Carlsson's development as a top line player.

I expect Carlsson will learn to deal with the workload over the second half of the season.
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It also throws off team structure, roles and chemistry building. Not a fan of it. If he's tired rest him but you have to push him to some extent too. Challenge the player not assume he'll fail, even if it is the more likely scenario.
 
DavidBL said:
It also throws off team structure, roles and chemistry building. Not a fan of it. If he's tired rest him but you have to push him to some extent too. Challenge the player not assume he'll fail, even if it is the more likely scenario.
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Who's assuming he's going to fail? I don't think they're assuming failure. They're assuming, as is historically evident, that rookies get fatigued and lose strength as the season goes on. The Ducks want him to remain strong throughout and seem to feel that he's more at risk of fatigue early in the season due to his summer workload. I don't think that has anything to do with failure.
 
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