Player Discussion Leo Carlsson

[Dryish]

Honestly, the saddest part about this is that I'll now have to root for another Swede. I hate having to root for Swedes.

 

[MMC]

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Honestly, the saddest part about this is that I'll now have to root for another Swede. I hate having to root for Swedes.

Maybe Columbus was hoping Anaheim picked Carlsson so Jarmo doesn't have to pick him.

 

[Leonardo87]

Hearing that Fantilli preferred CBJ definitely paints things differently for me. I hope Carlsson can hit his potential with us and all the best to Fantilli.

That being said: what're the odds we see Carlsson in a Ducks sweater in the fall beyond just a few games?

Fantilli was going back to college if drafted by the Ducks is the feeling Verbeek maybe got, I dunno. Carlsson will likely be signed and will get a shot in the NHL, imo. Playing in the SHL is an easier transition to the NHL, since it’s a men’s league. Plus, there is always the AHL to fallback on as well. I don’t see Leo going back to the SHL.

Expect him to work very closely with Getzlaf. So excited about this.

 

[cheesymc]

Totally reasonable response. All I can say is that if you look at the Ducks draft history under Madden, they really love big players with lots of tools. I guarantee that they think Carlsson has a higher ceiling than Fantilli due to his unique combination of size, skills and hockey sense and they think he can work on his skating and physicality over time.

This feels like a Hampus over Trouba… sure Hampus is a bit taller and has better overall sense… but to be honest Troubas been the higher impact player as the better skater, physical presence, and leadership.

 

[Hoooch]

Love the pick.

 

[dracom]

can only cope with this pick if Pat got the sense Fantilli would refuse to sign with the team if they picked him.

 

[Beckett]

Leo's skating get's underrated by most IMO. He doesnt slow down when he's handling the puck and moves his feet really well, especially for a big dude. Fantilli is obviously faster but he doesnt have the ability to get defensman out of position and create lanes while carrying the puck, atleast not as well as Leo.

 

[snowave]

Surprised, but gotta think this is all about fantilli not super stoked to play here. If that's the case,
Not much you can do about it.

Don't know much about Leo but highlights and comments over the spring. Hard to be disappointed in the pick.

 

[cheesymc]

I wonder what Zegras is thinking… “yup, bridge contract” and get ready to get jumped next season like Terry did cause the tank for Celebrini begins!

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Didn’t PV or Madden always say that they grade prospects on the holy trinity if hockey sense, compete, and skating/skills? Fantilli had all of that… Leo needs work on skating AND physicality/compete… I’m really confused…

Carlsson's compete level is high with OZ Retrievals (puck wins), Board to Middle Plays (not a perimeter player), amazing transition game (puck control/hockey sense), and highly accurate passer in the slot (hockey sense). Not seen on the score card is Carlsson loves going to the net, which can been seen in scouting videos.

Looking at the score cards alone, Fantilli projects to be a high scoring winger. Carlsson projects to be a puck controlling center. Verbeek witnessing Carlsson playing 1C at the WC solidified that Carlsson can stick at center.

Just my theory, but I think the org wants a center with the #2 pick and Carlsson gave them more of a certainty with his WC play. With a 1-2 punch of McTavish-Carlsson, we can set up camp in the offensive end more often.

 

[cheesymc]

Surprised, but gotta think this is all about fantilli not super stoked to play here. If that's the case,
Not much you can do about it.

Don't know much about Leo but highlights and comments over the spring. Hard to be disappointed in the pick.

Yeah… Anaheim must have the worst reputation. Prefers Columbus over Orange County???? Has he seen the women here? He and Z would be smashing it here…

 

[cheesymc]

Leo's skating get's underrated by most IMO. He doesnt slow down when he's handling the puck and moves his feet really well, especially for a big dude. Fantilli is obviously faster but he doesnt have the ability to get defensman out of position and create lanes while carrying the puck, atleast not as well as Leo.

I do see that Leo is good at changing speeds. Fantilli seems to go one speed… fast. I can see how there are concerns how he would adapt when he can just blow by or bully opponents. But jeez… still an enormous risk. I would be 100% on board if we could have convinced CBJs for literally anything to trade up.

 

[Fighter]

I have this fear of "Milicic over Melo" situation, but on the bright side hockey IQ can't be taught. We will see.

 

[Mr Rogers]

This feels like a Hampus over Trouba… sure Hampus is a bit taller and has better overall sense… but to be honest Troubas been the higher impact player as the better skater, physical presence, and leadership.

I think Carlsson has more going for him skill-wise with respect to Fantilli certainly than Hampus did relative to Trouba. so I guess what i'm saying is there is truly convincing and substantive rationale for why you'd go with Carlsson at this time, more so than in 2012.

i honestly think Trouba has been the better offensive player over the years, although it's neck and neck after Hampus ballooned last year.

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Carlsson's compete level is high with OZ Retrievals (puck wins), Board to Middle Plays (not a perimeter player), amazing transition game (puck control/hockey sense), and highly accurate passer in the slot (hockey sense). Not seen on the score card is Carlsson loves going to the net, which can been seen in scouting videos.

Looking at the score cards alone, Fantilli projects to be a high scoring winger. Carlsson projects to be a puck controlling center. Verbeek witnessing Carlsson playing 1C at the WC solidified that Carlsson can stick at center.

Just my theory, but I think the org wants a center with the #2 pick and Carlsson gave them more of a certainty with his WC play. With a 1-2 punch of McTavish-Carlsson, we can set up camp in the offensive end more often.

I didn't think initially that the WC would've played into the decision much either way, but Verbeek's timeline for when they decided roughly lines up with the conclusion of it. would be nice if Dillman or Stephens asked him about that

 

[Beckett]

I do see that Leo is good at changing speeds. Fantilli seems to go one speed… fast. I can see how there are concerns how he would adapt when he can just blow by or bully opponents. But jeez… still an enormous risk. I would be 100% on board if we could have convinced CBJs for literally anything to trade up.

I think the reports that half the teams were pro Leo half were Fantilli might of been true.

 

[HunterDuck]

I love the pick.

Welcome Leo! Välkommen til Anaheim!

 

[OCSportsfan]

I think this pick was the correct one for the Ducks.

I am not sure I like the #1 center as an overly Physical (a lot of hitting) presence. Shorter career and better chance at injury. The #2 sure, but not #1. Also not sure how physical Fantilli will be in the NHL, but he sure seems like a good character kid. Was more impressed with the Leo film than the Fantilli film to be honest.

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

Betting on vision, IQ, and size isn’t really a bet at all. These kind of guys can play 15+ years in the nhl if they stay healthy. For the sake of Anaheim hockey, I hope this dude is a HOF player.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I do see that Leo is good at changing speeds. Fantilli seems to go one speed… fast. I can see how there are concerns how he would adapt when he can just blow by or bully opponents. But jeez… still an enormous risk. I would be 100% on board if we could have convinced CBJs for literally anything to trade up.

What if Columbus wanted Carlsson over Fantilli too? Carlsson actually fits in well with Columbus.

I don't know why we have to rationalize that Fantilli didn't want to be here? The more obvious reason is that the Ducks really wanted Carlsson more. Carlsson's hockey sense is high and probably will continue to rise. It's probably easier to teach someone how to improve their skating than to improve their hockey sense.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Personally, the most compelling detail about this decision is that it was made weeks ago. I find that pretty interesting.

I feel good about that. It tells me they had no doubt they were drafting the BPA (in their mind) and not just the best fit. That’s all I ever wanted.

 

[ff8]

Yeah… Anaheim must have the worst reputation. Prefers Columbus over Orange County???? Has he seen the women here? He and Z would be smashing it here…

That clip is getting way overblown. At the time it was filmed the ducks would’ve had the highest chance at 1oa = Bedard

 

[Terry Yake]

i don't think fantilli would've refused to sign with the ducks. but it wouldn't surprise me if he would've contemplated going back to school had the ducks taken him and that wasn't something verbeek wanted to deal with

 

[Ducks]

After seeing that clip of Fantilli saying he wants Columbus to draft him, I'm glad we picked Carlsson. Kid seemed genuinely excited to co.e to Anaheim.

 

[Leonardo87]

What if Columbus wanted Carlsson over Fantilli too? Carlsson actually fits in well with Columbus.

I don't know why we have to rationalize that Fantilli didn't want to be here? The more obvious reason is that the Ducks really wanted Carlsson more. Carlsson's hockey sense is high and probably will continue to rise. It's probably easier to teach someone how to improve their skating than to improve their hockey sense.

This is a very good point. I don’t think rumors of Fantilli going back to college or not wanting to play in Anaheim was much of an influence if it was even true or not. I look at Carlsson highlights and he sees the ice on an Elite level. Verbeek and co, knew what they wanted.

I expect to see Zegras move to wing now because he is not good defensively, will improve there no doubt, but rather he focus on his game, and let someone like McTavish or Carlsson take on the more defensive responsibilities.

As per line combos down the road, have no friggin idea, lol