Honestly, the saddest part about this is that I'll now have to root for another Swede. I hate having to root for Swedes.
Maybe Columbus was hoping Anaheim picked Carlsson so Jarmo doesn't have to pick him.Honestly, the saddest part about this is that I'll now have to root for another Swede. I hate having to root for Swedes.
Hearing that Fantilli preferred CBJ definitely paints things differently for me. I hope Carlsson can hit his potential with us and all the best to Fantilli.
That being said: what're the odds we see Carlsson in a Ducks sweater in the fall beyond just a few games?
This feels like a Hampus over Trouba… sure Hampus is a bit taller and has better overall sense… but to be honest Troubas been the higher impact player as the better skater, physical presence, and leadership.Totally reasonable response. All I can say is that if you look at the Ducks draft history under Madden, they really love big players with lots of tools. I guarantee that they think Carlsson has a higher ceiling than Fantilli due to his unique combination of size, skills and hockey sense and they think he can work on his skating and physicality over time.
Didn’t PV or Madden always say that they grade prospects on the holy trinity if hockey sense, compete, and skating/skills? Fantilli had all of that… Leo needs work on skating AND physicality/compete… I’m really confused…
Yeah… Anaheim must have the worst reputation. Prefers Columbus over Orange County???? Has he seen the women here? He and Z would be smashing it here…Surprised, but gotta think this is all about fantilli not super stoked to play here. If that's the case,
Not much you can do about it.
Don't know much about Leo but highlights and comments over the spring. Hard to be disappointed in the pick.
I do see that Leo is good at changing speeds. Fantilli seems to go one speed… fast. I can see how there are concerns how he would adapt when he can just blow by or bully opponents. But jeez… still an enormous risk. I would be 100% on board if we could have convinced CBJs for literally anything to trade up.Leo's skating get's underrated by most IMO. He doesnt slow down when he's handling the puck and moves his feet really well, especially for a big dude. Fantilli is obviously faster but he doesnt have the ability to get defensman out of position and create lanes while carrying the puck, atleast not as well as Leo.
I think Carlsson has more going for him skill-wise with respect to Fantilli certainly than Hampus did relative to Trouba. so I guess what i'm saying is there is truly convincing and substantive rationale for why you'd go with Carlsson at this time, more so than in 2012.This feels like a Hampus over Trouba… sure Hampus is a bit taller and has better overall sense… but to be honest Troubas been the higher impact player as the better skater, physical presence, and leadership.
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Carlsson's compete level is high with OZ Retrievals (puck wins), Board to Middle Plays (not a perimeter player), amazing transition game (puck control/hockey sense), and highly accurate passer in the slot (hockey sense). Not seen on the score card is Carlsson loves going to the net, which can been seen in scouting videos.
Looking at the score cards alone, Fantilli projects to be a high scoring winger. Carlsson projects to be a puck controlling center. Verbeek witnessing Carlsson playing 1C at the WC solidified that Carlsson can stick at center.
Just my theory, but I think the org wants a center with the #2 pick and Carlsson gave them more of a certainty with his WC play. With a 1-2 punch of McTavish-Carlsson, we can set up camp in the offensive end more often.
I do see that Leo is good at changing speeds. Fantilli seems to go one speed… fast. I can see how there are concerns how he would adapt when he can just blow by or bully opponents. But jeez… still an enormous risk. I would be 100% on board if we could have convinced CBJs for literally anything to trade up.
I do see that Leo is good at changing speeds. Fantilli seems to go one speed… fast. I can see how there are concerns how he would adapt when he can just blow by or bully opponents. But jeez… still an enormous risk. I would be 100% on board if we could have convinced CBJs for literally anything to trade up.
I feel good about that. It tells me they had no doubt they were drafting the BPA (in their mind) and not just the best fit. That’s all I ever wanted.Personally, the most compelling detail about this decision is that it was made weeks ago. I find that pretty interesting.
That clip is getting way overblown. At the time it was filmed the ducks would’ve had the highest chance at 1oa = BedardYeah… Anaheim must have the worst reputation. Prefers Columbus over Orange County???? Has he seen the women here? He and Z would be smashing it here…
What if Columbus wanted Carlsson over Fantilli too? Carlsson actually fits in well with Columbus.
I don't know why we have to rationalize that Fantilli didn't want to be here? The more obvious reason is that the Ducks really wanted Carlsson more. Carlsson's hockey sense is high and probably will continue to rise. It's probably easier to teach someone how to improve their skating than to improve their hockey sense.