Player Discussion Leo Carlsson

[ScarTroy]

I do share the sentiment that we need to address some physicality in our lineup, but I love this pick, he’s going you be a f***ing stud

 

[Goose of Reason]

Personally, the most compelling detail about this decision is that it was made weeks ago. I find that pretty interesting.

It's fun to think if when Verbeek said his North American scouts were unanimous, they were unanimous against Fantilli

 

[ducks8]

The part we don’t know is if Fantilli wasn’t that high on Anaheim. If he really wanted to be picked by Columbus, it would be foolish to pick him and have him go back to Michigan.

John

The ESPN panel made a comment stating Fantilli wanted CBJ.

 

[Dirk316]

This is going to be one of those picks the whole league will be laughing at us for for a long, long time. I literally have zero trust in our GM and scouting any more. We were God awful drafting forwards ever since, but now we are the laughing stock of the hockey world.

I knew this would happen its embarrassing and this teams results and attendance shows. How Verbeek got the job is beyond me.

 

[70sSanO]

He's friends with Zegras and Drysdale plus he has an endorsement with Chipotle's and even wore an eggplant suit. Guy clearly wanted to go to us.

A lot of kids are friends, that doesn’t mean he wants the Ducks.

There is a video from May where he says he wants to go to Columbus.

 

[Ducks]

It's fun to think if when Verbeek said his North American scouts were unanimous, they were unanimous against Fantilli

Just to be precise, it was actually Madden that made that comment before the draft. Verbeek said that they made the pick weeks ago and they were going to draft size. Madden talked about the debates around the pick on his staff and said that the NA scouts were unanimous in who they wanted.

 

[Leonardo87]

My dog shares the same name.

Maybe it's a good sign!

Leo is my middle name.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Carlsson selected by Ducks with No. 2 pick in 2023 NHL Draft | NHL.com

Center had 25 points in 44 games in Swedish Hockey League this season; Fantilli goes to Blue Jackets at No. 3

www.nhl.com

 

[Vipers31]

I knew this would happen its embarrassing and this teams results and attendance shows. How Verbeek got the job is beyond me.

Among many other things.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

My dog shares the same name.

Maybe it's a good sign!

Leo Carlsson is an interesting name for a dog

 

[cheesymc]

Didn’t PV or Madden always say that they grade prospects on the holy trinity if hockey sense, compete, and skating/skills? Fantilli had all of that… Leo needs work on skating AND physicality/compete… I’m really confused…

 

[Terry Yake]

great hockey IQ, excellent vision and passing ability, and the ability to handle playing both ends of the ice

i'm a fan of this pick

 

[Dryish]

Didn’t PV or Madden always say that they grade prospects on the holy trinity if hockey sense, compete, and skating/skills? Fantilli had all of that… Leo needs work on skating AND physicality/compete… I’m really confused…

The biggest knock on Fantilli is that his hockey IQ isn't regarded as terribly high, to a degree where his game sometimes suffers from it, whereas Carlsson's is one of the highest in the draft. There's your missing bit.

 

[Ducks]

Didn’t PV or Madden always say that they grade prospects on the holy trinity if hockey sense, compete, and skating/skills? Fantilli had all of that… Leo needs work on skating AND physicality/compete… I’m really confused…

Totally reasonable response. All I can say is that if you look at the Ducks draft history under Madden, they really love big players with lots of tools. I guarantee that they think Carlsson has a higher ceiling than Fantilli due to his unique combination of size, skills and hockey sense and they think he can work on his skating and physicality over time.

 

[Vipers31]

The biggest knock on Fantilli is that his hockey IQ isn't regarded as terribly high, to a degree where his game sometimes suffers from it, whereas Carlsson's is one of the highest in the draft. There's your missing bit.

The discussions about some scouts continuing to have reservations about his hockey IQ have been had on here a lot, and I am not going to hold it against anyone for coming up with a rationalization on why those doubts might have been questionable, but the straight up denials sure didn’t seem to be represented significantly among the Ducks scouts.

 

[Leonardo87]

 

[c4rcy]

Leo's compete is very high, and he drives to the physical areas, which definitely falls in the physicality realm. He isn't shy of physicality but he's not initiating contact in the form of throwing monstrous hits.

 

[Leonardo87]

Remember he is playing against men, not kids.

 

[Ducks]

great hockey IQ, excellent vision and passing ability, and the ability to handle playing both ends of the ice

i'm a fan of this pick

I don't think he's really established himself as a great defensive player yet. His coach in Sweden basically said that he didn't think his 200ft game was good enough to play C in the SHL and that he'll succeed in the NHL as a C because he doesn't need to do as much defensive work. It's certainly an opinion.

He's got to work on his skating in order to be a better defensive player. He needs to get more explosive in his first few strides. But it's definitely something that he can improve.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Hearing that Fantilli preferred CBJ definitely paints things differently for me. I hope Carlsson can hit his potential with us and all the best to Fantilli.

That being said: what're the odds we see Carlsson in a Ducks sweater in the fall beyond just a few games?

 

[Terry Yake]

I don't think he's really established himself as a great defensive player yet. His coach in Sweden basically said that he didn't think his 200ft game was good enough to play C in the SHL and that he'll succeed in the NHL as a C because he doesn't need to do as much defensive work. It's certainly an opinion.

He's got to work on his skating in order to be a better defensive player. He needs to get more explosive in his first few strides. But it's definitely something that he can improve.

he's also a teenager playing in a pro league. the ability is there and i don't have much doubt he'll improve in that area. playing on smaller ice will help with that as well

 

[Ducks4Cup]

A Swedish getzlaf maybe…or they’re hoping.

 

[Beckett]

Besides Bedard Leo's been my favorite prospect since the season began. He's just so smooth for his size and to do what he does in the SHL is insane. He's a special talent in a different way than Fantilli. Great pick Ducks

 

[c4rcy]

He is on the Ailish and Armdog podcast from sportsnet but it is so insufferable listening to both of them talk over everyone they are interviewing.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Ducks need to get him blu ray set of Vikings to help channel his inner VIKING and then and watch Cobra Kai after that. Teach him to be a mean machine.