Friedman: Leafs willing to move 1st round pick.

[CatchyTune]

to tronna: Saros, Carrier,

to nash: Jarnkrok, Samsonov, Lilejgren 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2024 2nd Knies,

Whatever youre on, can I have some for the game tonight? Alcohol/marijuana doesnt do much for me anymore

 

[Nostradumbass]

Alcohol/marijuana doesnt do much for me anymore

I don't think they're meant to deal with disappointment

 

[CatchyTune]

I don't think they're meant to deal with disappointment

Whats the jab supposed to be? I’m the disappointment? The leafs disappoint me? be a bit more clear. But ya i need something else

 

[TheGroceryStick]

What’s the biggest cap dump the leafs have and how long is he signed for?

Hate saying it. But it’s Johnny

Others are quite manageable. Maybe Jarnkrok or Kampf

 

[CatchyTune]

Hate saying it. But it’s Johnny

Others are quite manageable. Maybe Jarnkrok or Kampf

I dont think it would be any of those guys. Brodie/Samsonov who are expiring would be used as money going the other way i reckon

 

[All Mod Cons]

From the OP: “he [Friedman] said that when they were trying to acquire both Tanev and Zadorov their 1st round pick was in play.”

Yes. Both. Not one or the other. Their first was in play when they were interested in both Zadorov and Tanev together.

 

[FissionFire]

You have zero way to keep the core going and draft replacement players simultaneously. This isn't a video game. The average draft pick will take 5 year to get into the lineup and contribute. Which of Matthews, marner, Nylander or Reilly will still be in their prime in five years? None of them. Reilly will be 34. The rest will be 31-32.

If your depth wasn't so bad a guy like knies would be in the AHL.

Look at how Tampa kept the core going, they traded draft capital for depth pieces. That's all you can do, there is no perpetual contending status by drafting and developing and winning the cup every year. People who point out Detroit in the past ignore that they got many top free agents for a decade and got generationally lucky by drafting iron curtain players that weren't supposed to be available.

Nah Detroit kept it going by getting incredibly lucky to have 2 All-Star caliber players gets drafted deep into the later rounds (Datsyuk 171st, Zetterberg 210th in back-to-back years). That is a once-in-a-generation type of luck that no team can expect to replicate. Detroit is a bad example to hold teams to because no franchise will likely get that lucky again in our lifetimes.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

All this spending year after year should have resulted in at least one deep run, but nope. Leafs now have barely any assets to upgrade anything and way too much money tied up in 3 players with nothing to really show for it in the playoffs. This is not directed at you, Arthur, just in general: it doesn't matter what they add or don't add, the core players need to step up big time when it matters. All of this spending in the past proves that it doesn't matter what you add on the periphery. Only the core players can lead you anywhere. And they have not yet. That's why I oppose any more big trade deadline moves. Spend a 1st round pick on Tanev, so what? He doesn't move the needle.

my thoughts as well, I honestly gave up on this core the day we lost to MTL after going up 3-1
and last year I thought they made all the right moves, filled just about every need and we got 2 more wins in the playoffs. just not good enough. spending more shouldnt be the goal here

 

[34]

If Toronto is moving their 1st, the player coming back better be under 30 yo and not a UFA in 30 games.

Calgary is trying to exploit Treliving on Tanev.

 

[DeltaSwede]

No freaking way! I would never have thought they would trade their first rounder with holes in the line up and winning ambitions!

These insiders man, James Bond vibes!

 

[Score08]

I don’t think the leafs have enough first round picks to cure what ails them.

 

[Misery74]

To Leafs: C. Lindgren($1.1m for 1 more year), A. Mantha ($2.9)

To Caps: I. Samsonov, 2024 first, 2025 second

Look, as a Caps fan I can say, this undoubtedly makes the Leafs better team, this year and next. Lindgren has been very good in Washington, and is cheap as f***.

Sammy, 21 games, .874 SV%
Lindy, 22 games, .912 SV%

 

[BlueSeal]

The Leafs trading a 1st+ for a top 4 or even 1D is damn near a necessity at this point. That blueline needs help badly.

 

[viceroy]

He didn’t say they were willing to move a FRP. He said since they don’t have a SRP for a a few years that they’d have to move their FRP if they wanted to make an upgrade. In saying that it’s clearly obvious that any type of deal they’re looking for would have to involve their FRP.

Are you trying to make FRP and SRP happen stats1. Just use 1st or 2nd.

David Savard with 50% retention

Savard at 50% will cost you a mint. We're talking 1st+.

Risto has a couple more years of term.

Risto for TML's 1st would be glorious.

To Leafs: Armia
To Habs: 1st rounder

I'd accept Armia for Samsonov + a 2nd.

Whats the jab supposed to be? I’m the disappointment? The leafs disappoint me?

I believe he thinks you need alcohol and weed to soothe the heartache of the Leafs'(post-season) results.

 

[vokiel]

I'd accept Armia for Samsonov + a 2nd.

Leafs wouldn't offer since they have no 2nd rounders for the next 3 drafts. I made the only offer I thought Montreal could do. Given that we are rivals, it's to be taken with a grain of salt

 

[SnizzNasty88]

If we are moving our 1st rounder it absolutely has to be for a player with term on his deal. Not like that absolute piece of garbage fraud Dubas who pissed away multiple 1sts over the years for rentals.

 

[sxvnert]

Fine with signing Tanev this summer but giving up assets for an injury prone D has Foligno trade written all over it.

 

[CatchyTune]

Are you trying to make FRP and SRP happen stats1. Just use 1st or 2nd.



Savard at 50% will cost you a mint. We're talking 1st+.



Risto for TML's 1st would be glorious.



I'd accept Armia for Samsonov + a 2nd.



I believe he thinks you need alcohol and weed to soothe the heartache of the Leafs'(post-season) results.

I wish a hockey teams playoff results was my biggest problem in life

 

[nbwingsfan]

Up until about 2 weeks ago Samsonov had an 862 save%.

You didn’t answer the question.

The Leaf’s goaltending is the only thing keeping them from being the best team in the NHL in your opinion?

 

[All Mod Cons]

To Leafs: C. Lindgren($1.1m for 1 more year), A. Mantha ($2.9)

To Caps: I. Samsonov, 2024 first, 2025 second

Look, as a Caps fan I can say, this undoubtedly makes the Leafs better team, this year and next. Lindgren has been very good in Washington, and is cheap as f***.

Sammy, 21 games, .874 SV%
Lindy, 22 games, .912 SV%

I'd rather not.

 

[thusk]

No freaking way! I would never have thought they would trade their first rounder with holes in the line up and winning ambitions!

These insiders man, James Bond vibes!

exemple leafs trade 1st round, liljegren Bertuzzi ( trade in a 3rd team exemple for a 2nd) and niemela for hanifin and tanev extended... exemple 7,5M for hanifin and 3 M tanev... they are resign at the same cap hit of brodie and Bertuzzi cap hit...

your starting playoff with like
rielly-Tanev
Hanifin-Mccabe
Benoit-brodie

leafs team drastically changed and help to fix a lot of hole...

 

[Space umpire]

I think the Leafs have too many holes this season to fix things at the deadline. They need help on the blueline, they need secondary scoring - but said player needs to be responsible in their own end as well - and they have a huge question in net. Maybe there's a deal out there to add people with term, but they're a middle of the road team. They went 0/4 on their offseason signings and are paying for it now because they have way more holes than they had anticipated. It's hard to do with a talent like Matthews on your team, but I think you just have to swallow it, realize it's not your year, and keep your assets.

Keeping the pick does nothing to help this core win. In general a guy picked in the late 1st rd has less value than the pick before it’s used.
Find a team that wants the pick in trade for someone younger who could help long term.
OR
Be honest, this core just isn’t a “playoff tough” team. I’m not sure anyone is moveable for what most of you would consider equal value and NMC’s matter.
However they sell out games no matter what.
Move the guys who are clearly weak playoff (2 way, specifically in their end) players. Using assets gained to create a better team. (Rielly and Matthews gotta go).
Rielly is a top offensive D but is hardly a 3rd pair guy defensively.
Matthews might be ok if he stops hanging out near the point waiting to flip to offense and actually comes down deep to help the D like other centers.

Best case. Matthews (now that he got paid again) does an Yzerman, foregoing some of the bigger scoring numbers and committing to winning hockey when the games matter most.

It changed Yzerman from a great offensive talent to a champion.

 

[HuGort]

Unless he comes with an extension

Price be higher then

 

[Space umpire]

Hate saying it. But it’s Johnny

Others are quite manageable. Maybe Jarnkrok or Kampf

But JT is not a cap dump. He’s not going anywhere. Having already spent the cap increase on Nylander it makes more sense to write off next year. The year after you have that years cap jump and JT money to add talent.
If you have moveable talent now that can get you picks or prospects make it happen. Those can be used to acquire other needs later.

 

[Lockin17]

Would be nice. The Leafs will still be able to move their first after that trade.

You think Savard at 50% is not worth a late first ?
Gezzzz HF people sometimes