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Wafflewhipper said:
Work your injured tandem to death is smart stuff. I play the Hutch every time and don’t destroy my goalies long term health. Thats what i would do. March was bad. You don’t like seeing that or hearing that then it’s to bad for ya man.
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Because playing the third string goalie who's evidently regressing back down to the mean is a much better option? News flash, it's really not.

March does not erase the much longer stretch of good play they've had this season. It's foolish to think otherwise.
 
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NK94 said:
Because playing the third string goalie who's evidently regressing back down to the mean is a much better option? News flash, it's really not.

March does not erase the much longer stretch of good play they've had this season. It's foolish to think otherwise.
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You better go check his numbers and your facts while you are at it. Hutch hasn’t given up more than 3 goals in any game this year. He’s been excellent. But yap b.s all you like. Fits your level of hockey smarts actually
 
Wafflewhipper said:
Lol that’s mostly me man ha. Keefe has to wake up and Dubas has to make a move because the decline in March is telling. Easy part of the season they are a great soft team. Soon as it gets tighter the record plummets.
Lots of bad trends with this team. Cracks ate showing. Keefe better make some adjustments. Dubas better read a different book. They allowed teams to catch and the bad goaltending if a huge issue. Always a issue with dubas running the team
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We get it..you dislike Dubas. What's next...they are regressing exponentially? Also......Pretty sure Dubas is trying to make a move or two. Does he "HAVE" to? No. Trading for the sake of trading doesn't usually work out too good.
 
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Wafflewhipper said:
He’s been saying he wants forwards. Ran our injured goalies in to the ground again and this is his second go round screwing the goalie position.
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So he is just supposed to make injuries not happen I guess? Can't rely on a guy at all because he will just get hurt. He added Aaron Dell and lost him to waivers because he was too good to be a #3. Also added Hutchinson, who has been a surprisingly solid depth goalie himself.

So I guess you are arguing he should have made a trade earlier, which is easier said than done. Ullmark has been hurt until a couple of days ago. Kuemper has been hurt and Arizona may still be trying to make the playoffs in a weak division, so Raanta is probably not available either. Columbus is also still trying to make a run. Mrazek has been hurt and Carolina is likely not moving a goalie until they have another deal lined up with the cap space. Calgary is not ready to sell yet. Dubnyk has sucked.

That leaves Detroit and Bernier, but Detroit may be waiting.

That doesn't even include the fact that we'd have to navigate cap, quarantine (for most), and we have to figure out what is going on with Andersen's health and see whether we are even able to LTIR him. It's not 100% up to Dubas.
 
cannucky said:
Oh yeah they've been rock solid , similar P% as us but fewer games played , I've been following the AVs as a second team and after watching them battle Minny and Vegas I can tell you that division has been playing fast and tough playoff hockey all season .
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Avs could be the team to beat. not only do they take more shots on net than any team they give up the fewest in the whole league. And it follows with goals scored they are tied with Tampa for most goals per game and again they give up the fewest goals per game.
 
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Wafflewhipper said:
Lol that’s mostly me man ha. Keefe has to wake up and Dubas has to make a move because the decline in March is telling. Easy part of the season they are a great soft team. Soon as it gets tighter the record plummets.
Lots of bad trends with this team. Cracks ate showing. Keefe better make some adjustments. Dubas better read a different book. They allowed teams to catch and the bad goaltending if a huge issue. Always a issue with dubas running the team
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I've become a bit more happy with the team's play and all in all can't be too upset with still being in 1st place.

The Tavares line with Galchenyuk going has really put a step in the Leafs.

Rielly and Brodie are getting more comfortable and I think we'll be leaning on them heavily during closing time, as well as Muzz.

Power play and goaltending have really been the "knife in the back"

Problem is both those aspects of game are crucial for playoff success. I'm hoping PP gets back on track in next few games, I'm optimistic. They generated some decent chances just couldn't bury.

I know mostly everyone (myself included) have been down on Andersen, but as fans, we're all hoping he finds his game and can prove to be the backstop we need along with Campbell.

A few question marks, like any team. I want Dubas to pick up one more dman and a top6 fwd, + a goalie if available.

Nashville has really picked it up, sucks bc now Forsberg, Ekholm, and Ellis won't be going anywhere.
 
Cams said:
We get it..you dislike Dubas. What's next...they are regressing exponentially? Also......Pretty sure Dubas is trying to make a move or two. Does he "HAVE" to? No. Trading for the sake of trading doesn't usually work out too good.
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You didn’t get anything. If I don’t like Dubas I’ll say I don’t like dubas. Crap play for a month is a trend in a bad way. It wasn’t Hutchinsons fault either as a other poster says. Hutch hasn’t given up more than 3 goals any of his games. Ottawa has been man handling them. Kassian runs our captain no response. Yeah this is happening. I don’t care if anyone doesn’t like the facts.
 
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Wafflewhipper said:
38 goals for in March and 36 against. Our goaltending gave up less than the teams we played. You funny. Now them numbers are funny too.
Ate you like a new punk
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For the month of March, the Leafs are currently amongst the bottom 10 in the league with an overall .913 SV%.

For the month of March, Andersen had an .876 SV% in 7 games, Hutchinson had a .906 SV% in 4 games, and Campbell has a .939 SV% in 3 games going into tonight.

You're not winning many games when your starting goaltender is putting up an .876 SV% but sure, this team is actually bad and their much longer stretch of good play in January and February doesn't exist. Riiiiiight.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
So he is just supposed to make injuries not happen I guess? Can't rely on a guy at all because he will just get hurt. He added Aaron Dell and lost him to waivers because he was too good to be a #3. Also added Hutchinson, who has been a surprisingly solid depth goalie himself.

So I guess you are arguing he should have made a trade earlier, which is easier said than done. Ullmark has been hurt until a couple of days ago. Kuemper has been hurt and Arizona may still be trying to make the playoffs in a weak division, so Raanta is probably not available either. Columbus is also still trying to make a run. Mrazek has been hurt and Carolina is likely not moving a goalie until they have another deal lined up with the cap space. Calgary is not ready to sell yet. Dubnyk has sucked.

That leaves Detroit and Bernier, but Detroit may be waiting.

That doesn't even include the fact that we'd have to navigate cap, quarantine (for most), and we have to figure out what is going on with Andersen's health and see whether we are even able to LTIR him. It's not 100% up to Dubas.
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Hutch has been awesome except for a bad 5 minutes or something against Ottawa and then Andersen came in and lost it for him injured. He couldn’t move in the net.
Hutch is ok in the net. Hasn’t given up more than 3 a game. The ones he lost were all three goals against, one in overtime. Thornton dragging the team down on the power play might have lots to say to that scoring problem. The guy doesn’t deserve 15 minutes a game.
 
Wafflewhipper said:
You better go check his numbers and your facts while you are at it. Hutch hasn’t given up more than 3 goals in any game this year. He’s been excellent. But yap b.s all you like. Fits your level of hockey smarts actually
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He has a .906 SV% for the month, posted an .870 SV% on Monday, and a .333 SV% in his start against Ottawa that had him pulled after letting in 2 goals on 3 shots.

That's certainly not excellent.
 
NK94 said:
For the month of March, the Leafs are currently amongst the bottom 10 in the league with an overall .913 SV%.

For the month of March, Andersen had an .876 SV% in 7 games, Hutchinson had a .906 SV% in 4 games, and Campbell has a .939 SV% in 3 games going into tonight.

You're not winning many games when your starting goaltender is putting up an .876 SV% but sure, this team is actually bad and their much longer stretch of good play in January and February doesn't exist. Riiiiiight.
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Yeah i just said they played injured goalies. Are you having comprehension issues.
 
Wafflewhipper said:
You didn’t get anything. If I don’t like Dubas I’ll say I don’t like dubas. Crap play for a month is a trend in a bad way. It wasn’t Hutchinsons fault either as a other poster says. Hutch hasn’t given up more than 3 goals any of his games. Ottawa has been man handling them. Kassian runs our captain no response. Yeah this is happening. I don’t care if anyone doesn’t like the facts.
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How do you discount 7-2-1 in Jan, 9-3 in Feb and 49-25-8 in the past 82 games?

So either you are not watching the games, or you are purposely just trying to be difficult. 6-6-1 in March so far and not a single person on the planet would argue that the Leafs were not the better team in at least 4 of those losses.
 
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NK94 said:
For the month of March, the Leafs are currently amongst the bottom 10 in the league with an overall .913 SV%.

For the month of March, Andersen had an .876 SV% in 7 games, Hutchinson had a .906 SV% in 4 games, and Campbell has a .939 SV% in 3 games going into tonight.

You're not winning many games when your starting goaltender is putting up an .876 SV% but sure, this team is actually bad and their much longer stretch of good play in January and February doesn't exist. Riiiiiight.
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But on the flip side, this team almost always has looked good early in seasons and then sort of faded towards the end. The offence has sputtered, IMO. Not fair to blame the goaltending.
 
NK94 said:
He has a .906 SV% for the month, posted an .870 SV% on Monday, and a .333 SV% in his start against Ottawa that had him pulled after letting in 2 goals on 3 shots.

That's certainly not excellent.
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Yeah it is. These three guys scoring on him in over time out numbered shouldn’t happen i know eh. Since when does McDavid and Draisaitl/ Nurse beat anyone. https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/202103290TOR.html
Odd man rush against him. Context is everything isn’t it.
 
NK94 said:
For the month of March, the Leafs are currently amongst the bottom 10 in the league with an overall .913 SV%.

For the month of March, Andersen had an .876 SV% in 7 games, Hutchinson had a .906 SV% in 4 games, and Campbell has a .939 SV% in 3 games going into tonight.

You're not winning many games when your starting goaltender is putting up an .876 SV% but sure, this team is actually bad and their much longer stretch of good play in January and February doesn't exist. Riiiiiight.
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Should i put Andersen’s numbers up for you playing injured. Much worst. I’ll spare myself. You don’t know what you are arguing about any more
 
Wafflewhipper said:
Hutch has been awesome except for a bad 5 minutes or something against Ottawa and then Andersen came in and lost it for him injured. He couldn’t move in the net.
Hutch is ok in the net. Hasn’t given up more than 3 a game. The ones he lost were all three goals against, one in overtime. Thornton dragging the team down on the power play might have lots to say to that scoring problem. The guy doesn’t deserve 15 minutes a game.
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None of those things are on Dubas. He doesn't make lineup decisions. Thornton's ice time has also been cut dramatically in March. He's played 10-13 minutes in 2/3's of the games or something like that. Still has the odd game with a lot more ice time but in general we are load managing him right now.

Andersen has sucked, but I don't see how that has anything to do with a team that has been rather excellent in March otherwise or why you are saying the sky is falling. Our iffy PP was 1st in xGF/60 in March and was 3rd in GF/60 despite it being our coldest stretch of the year. If anything we played better in March than earlier in the season when we were winning but Andersen just sucked that much more to make up for it.
 
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Suntouchable13 said:
But on the flip side, this team almost always has looked good early in seasons and then sort of faded towards the end. The offence has sputtered, IMO. Not fair to blame the goaltending.
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The offense has been generating enough. They are just going through a finishing slump. It is more then fair to blame the goaltending for our recent slump.
 
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