stickty111
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Confirmed with Link: Leafs to sign Woll to 3 year extension on July 1st
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Nice to get Woll locked up on a lowish wage but why does it have to be twice as much as Kotchetkov and a year less.
We have a year of him at 800k so it's possible those monies never hit the cap if things go bad - he's either going to be great, LTIR'd, or good enough the contract is moveable. Doubtful to turn out he's healthy and not good enough to play anywhere at a reasonable rate.
We have a year of him at 800k so it's possible those monies never hit the cap if things go bad - he's either going to be great, LTIR'd, or good enough the contract is moveable. Doubtful to turn out he's healthy and not good enough to play anywhere at a reasonable rate.
I love the blind optimism but this could very easily go the other way with his injury history.
Bomber0104
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Not a fan of the hit at all.
Should have come in cheaper.
Should have come in cheaper.
I've read this comment a couple times and I'm still a bit baffled by it.
His games are limited because of the injury problems he's faced. He's getting high ankle sprains in December which took him a long time to get right from, and in 2022 that shoulder shoulder injury he got really screwed with his season then too, that carried over all across the offseason. And then ofc just randomly missing game 7 this year because of a random back injury.
This needs to be taken into account.
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I'm picturing Matthew Knies' contract now. Probably will get the Tavares deal.
That's a big salary for his body of work... This a contract he could have signed a year from now if he was our #1... Do not understand this at all.
I am not sure he has done well with goaltenders... Markstrom hasn't lived up to his contract so far and was just traded.
I think the bigger concern with Woll at this point is his health and whether he can be relied upon for a starter workload.
Having said that, I think this contract could be good, bad, or alright.
I can't see it being horrible or great.
ULF_55
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Maybe, their calculation takes into account LTIR?
Not sure Woll is a LTIR candidate the same way someone like Murray is.
Woll is likely going to play games throughout the season even if he hits LTIR, he is too young/not accomplished enough to agree to long-long term LTIR IMO.
Like I said though.. I think his value by year two of this contract will either be slightly over it or slightly below, I can't see this being a horrible contract, but I also can't see it being an amazing steal.
ULF_55
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88M / 22 players --> 4M average AAV per player.
If a goalie is a tandem goalie on a good team with decent numbers, this is a bargain. Decent gamble by Tre. Joe can exceed this value I believe. Congrats to him.
Hopefully it's closer to 3.5M.
If a goalie is a tandem goalie on a good team with decent numbers, this is a bargain. Decent gamble by Tre. Joe can exceed this value I believe. Congrats to him.
Hopefully it's closer to 3.5M.
Let's say Woll plays 50-60 games this season and establishes himself firmly as a #1 which he has shown us in flashes. What's his AAV then as an RFA?
I think anyone that has watched Woll realizes health is the only thing thats kept him from being a starter. If he puts together a healthy season that number could go to 5-6 million.
With the cap increase if I'm his agent I'm aiming for 5.5-6 million.
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Two wrongs do not make a right. At least Sammy earned his 3.5m based by his play in his first year. He pretty much save our bacon after Murray was hurt (who could have guessed?). This signing could make Woll Tre's Murray. Too risky for me but we all know how smart the Leafs are.
Odds are he plays less than 40. Hopefully we can LTIR him for the other 42 games.
Which for an organization like the Leafs, I think they're comfortable with that if it comes down to it.
ToneDog
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Given his injury history, he'd be dumb to turn down $3.5-$4m. Now way he gets close to than with a repeat of this past season. Leafs rolling the dice. Question is when has this team ever been lucky?
Why should Brossoit or Stolarz accept less as UFAs than Woll is getting for 40 games of NHL experience
ToneDog
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I'd be good with the deal if he goes on LTIR for the first half of the season along with Tavares and they return for the second half and playoffs.
Torontonian
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It's 27th highest paid goaltender. So its on the low end of starter money. (which he is). His injury history doesn't take away from his talent.
Seems like a coaching issue rather then a Woll problem. Go check what Ullmark had to say about the Leafs playing Samsonov.
Flawed logic, not many young players earn what they are making today, but you bet on them being worth way more then that in a few years time. Toronto is doing the same with Woll.
People on this website have PTSD on paying players above market value in career years, they forget what it's like to bet on someone now to pay them below market value in a year or two. I think it's nice to see a GM activity doing this.
Woll makes 750k this year, if he plays 50 games and puts up his regular .915, Toronto would be paying more then the 3.5 AAV or so.
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