Confirmed with Link: Leafs to sign Woll to 3 year extension on July 1st

[stickty111]

This is risky but potential to be a good deal.

 

[LeafEgo]

Nice to get Woll locked up on a lowish wage but why does it have to be twice as much as Kotchetkov and a year less.

We have a year of him at 800k so it's possible those monies never hit the cap if things go bad - he's either going to be great, LTIR'd, or good enough the contract is moveable. Doubtful to turn out he's healthy and not good enough to play anywhere at a reasonable rate.

 

[Buds17]

Seems like a really good deal for Woll simply due to the amount of games he currently has under his belt. It should end up being a quality deal for the team too if his pace can effectively translate over an increased workload.

 

[IPS]

"Why are we giving Marner 9 million aav when he hasn't even broken 70 points yet???"

The pitchforks would be out if we were watching Woll kill it next season with no extension in place. I'm sure he was perfectly willing to bet on himself rather than bite on the lowball offers Leafs fans are cooking up in retrospect.

I love the blind optimism but this could very easily go the other way with his injury history.

 

[Bomber0104]

Not a fan of the hit at all.

Should have come in cheaper.

 

[IPS]

Seems like a really good deal for Woll simply due to the amount of games he currently has under his belt. It should end up being a quality deal for the team too if his pace can effectively translate over an increased workload.

I've read this comment a couple times and I'm still a bit baffled by it.

His games are limited because of the injury problems he's faced. He's getting high ankle sprains in December which took him a long time to get right from, and in 2022 that shoulder shoulder injury he got really screwed with his season then too, that carried over all across the offseason. And then ofc just randomly missing game 7 this year because of a random back injury.

This needs to be taken into account.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

I'm picturing Matthew Knies' contract now. Probably will get the Tavares deal.

 

[notbias]

That's a big salary for his body of work... This a contract he could have signed a year from now if he was our #1... Do not understand this at all.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

He's a legit #1 goalie when healthy.

3.5-4.0m per is a ridiculous overpay right now given his resume. I would have tried 2.75/per.

This is a boom or bust contract.

Either it'll be genius or it'll be a complete disaster.

 

[notbias]

Seems they've tapped him as their starter.

Treliving has done okay with keepers?

Ullmark agrees.

I am not sure he has done well with goaltenders... Markstrom hasn't lived up to his contract so far and was just traded.

I think the bigger concern with Woll at this point is his health and whether he can be relied upon for a starter workload.

Having said that, I think this contract could be good, bad, or alright.

I can't see it being horrible or great.

 

[ULF_55]

I am not sure he has done well with goaltenders... Markstrom hasn't lived up to his contract so far and was just traded.

I think the bigger concern with Woll at this point is his health and whether he can be relied upon for a starter workload.

Maybe, their calculation takes into account LTIR?

 

[notbias]

Maybe, their calculation takes into account LTIR?

Not sure Woll is a LTIR candidate the same way someone like Murray is.

Woll is likely going to play games throughout the season even if he hits LTIR, he is too young/not accomplished enough to agree to long-long term LTIR IMO.

Like I said though.. I think his value by year two of this contract will either be slightly over it or slightly below, I can't see this being a horrible contract, but I also can't see it being an amazing steal.

 

[rumman]

groundhog day all over again, I guess it's not too impactful on the cap once he's injured again..........

 

[ULF_55]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805237957093130611

Maybe they're closing in on a goaltender at that amount, but it isn't Woll?

 

[Warden of the North]

Our starter was at $3.5m last year. Woll is also made of glass like Matt Murray.

Ya, and our starter played like a marginal NHL player.

 

[Marshy]

88M / 22 players --> 4M average AAV per player.

If a goalie is a tandem goalie on a good team with decent numbers, this is a bargain. Decent gamble by Tre. Joe can exceed this value I believe. Congrats to him.

Hopefully it's closer to 3.5M.

 

[MapleLeafsMats]

Let's say Woll plays 50-60 games this season and establishes himself firmly as a #1 which he has shown us in flashes. What's his AAV then as an RFA?

 

[JSn0w93]

I think anyone that has watched Woll realizes health is the only thing thats kept him from being a starter. If he puts together a healthy season that number could go to 5-6 million.

Let's say Woll plays 50-60 games this season and establishes himself firmly as a #1 which he has shown us in flashes. What's his AAV then as an RFA?

With the cap increase if I'm his agent I'm aiming for 5.5-6 million.

 

[ToneDog]

Ya, and our starter played like a marginal NHL player.

Two wrongs do not make a right. At least Sammy earned his 3.5m based by his play in his first year. He pretty much save our bacon after Murray was hurt (who could have guessed?). This signing could make Woll Tre's Murray. Too risky for me but we all know how smart the Leafs are.

Let's say Woll plays 50-60 games this season and establishes himself firmly as a #1 which he has shown us in flashes. What's his AAV then as an RFA?

Odds are he plays less than 40. Hopefully we can LTIR him for the other 42 games.

 

[MapleLeafsMats]

Odds are he plays less than 40. Hopefully we can LTIR him for the other 42 games.

Which for an organization like the Leafs, I think they're comfortable with that if it comes down to it.

 

[ToneDog]

I think anyone that has watched Woll realizes health is the only thing thats kept him from being a starter. If he puts together a healthy season that number could go to 5-6 million.


With the cap increase if I'm his agent I'm aiming for 5.5-6 million.

Given his injury history, he'd be dumb to turn down $3.5-$4m. Now way he gets close to than with a repeat of this past season. Leafs rolling the dice. Question is when has this team ever been lucky?

 

[Sypher04]

Stolarz
Talbot
Brossoit

1-3 year range (depending on which guy you go for) for 1.75-2.5M

Hildeby is still in the wings too, also have to see how Ahykmatov adapts to North American ice/angles too

Why should Brossoit or Stolarz accept less as UFAs than Woll is getting for 40 games of NHL experience

 

[Buds17]

I've read this comment a couple times and I'm still a bit baffled by it.

His games are limited because of the injury problems he's faced. He's getting high ankle sprains in December which took him a long time to get right from, and in 2022 that shoulder shoulder injury he got really screwed with his season then too, that carried over all across the offseason. And then ofc just randomly missing game 7 this year because of a random back injury.

This needs to be taken into account.

It should be a good deal for the team if Woll can play often and well and not so much if he can neither play often nor well enough, no?

 

[ToneDog]

Which for an organization like the Leafs, I think they're comfortable with that if it comes down to it.

I'd be good with the deal if he goes on LTIR for the first half of the season along with Tavares and they return for the second half and playoffs.

 

[Torontonian]

It's more than backup money. He's gonna be in the top 30 for cap hit for goaltenders, maybe top 25 depending how high his deal is. They're paying him like a low end 1A.

You can have all the ability in the world but if you can't stay healthy and play it's worthless.

I don't see how anyone could view this as anything other than a bad deal, today.

It's 27th highest paid goaltender. So its on the low end of starter money. (which he is). His injury history doesn't take away from his talent.

Top much money for a guy they didn't even want to start in the playoffs.

Seems like a coaching issue rather then a Woll problem. Go check what Ullmark had to say about the Leafs playing Samsonov.

This is not a good deal IMO .. obscure overpayment for someone who hasn’t earned it. Quite risky.

And I like Woll.

Flawed logic, not many young players earn what they are making today, but you bet on them being worth way more then that in a few years time. Toronto is doing the same with Woll.

There's a whole Squadron here that'll froth about anything and everything.

Seems very much like a low risk, high reward deal.

People on this website have PTSD on paying players above market value in career years, they forget what it's like to bet on someone now to pay them below market value in a year or two. I think it's nice to see a GM activity doing this.

Woll makes 750k this year, if he plays 50 games and puts up his regular .915, Toronto would be paying more then the 3.5 AAV or so.