Friedman: Leafs to enter goalie Market

[Nevins]

To
G Petr Mrazek (50% retained)

Mrazek is playing great behind trainwreck and should be improvement for Leafs. When Woll comes back he and Mrazek can play down stretch for who gets right to be #1 in playoffs

Mrazek first go round in Toronto didn't go well with him injured and his confidence shot. He is healthy and has built back his mental game this year

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G Ilya Samsonov
Leafs 2024 4th round pick
Canucks 2024 5th round pick

Hawks get back picks in 4th and 5th round this year (Having previously traded own) and get Samsonov to finish out year with Soderblom as worst goalie duo in NHL and secure top 3 pick at minimum. Maybe Jimmy Waite can get Samsonov back on track

You really want Chicago to finish last

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Woll has a total of 26 NHL games at 25 years of age. He’s looked promising but in an ideal world he’d backup the starter and then graduate to starter next year if all goes well. Not sure I’d throw him to the wolves this year when he’s back healthy. Especially on a team looking for a deep playoff run.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

The goalie market is atrociously bad. As a Devils fan I've been thinking about it for a month+ now. I think the only way to get a goalie will be to trade a 1st, possibly as part of a larger deal (e.g. LA traded a 1st for Gavrikov and Korpisalo). Also no one will trade anyone with positive value until the deadline. You might be able to get a reclaimation project like Eric Comrie though if Buffalo's patience has worn out.

However the traditional goalie prices are out the window, there's just a massive amount of demand and almost no supply, especially for a cap strapped team.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

To
G Petr Mrazek (50% retained)

Mrazek is playing great behind trainwreck and should be improvement for Leafs. When Woll comes back he and Mrazek can play down stretch for who gets right to be #1 in playoffs

Mrazek first go round in Toronto didn't go well with him injured and his confidence shot. He is healthy and has built back his mental game this year

To
G Ilya Samsonov
Leafs 2024 4th round pick
Canucks 2024 5th round pick

Hawks get back picks in 4th and 5th round this year (Having previously traded own) and get Samsonov to finish out year with Soderblom as worst goalie duo in NHL and secure top 3 pick at minimum. Maybe Jimmy Waite can get Samsonov back on track

Mrazek groin is made out of m

Allen + Harris for Tyler Bertuzzi?

It fits in terms of salaries (3,9 mil + 1,4 mil vs 5,5 mil).

It fits in terms of mutual interests:

MTL gets rid of Allen salary for next year. They get depth at forward (they lack) and ammunitions for the TD in Bertuzzi.

Tor gets a veteran goalie and a young versatile defenseman for depth.

Seems plausible...

P.S.: Bertuzzi would have to lift his NMC...

Which he's not doing for Montreal.

 

[Baksfamous112]

just dont think his skill level is high enough to be a considered a starter.

Fair enough

 

[rypper]

I open the trade board and:

 

[Bond]

Fair enough

If I was spending assets on a goalie I’d go for one that has been a starter for a few years at least. Montebaulm might get there though

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

With Carolina and NJ looking as well it will be interesting to see what market price looks like. Not sure how any of the three besides Carolina would fit in Gibson or Markstrom going forward. Raanta has been awful on a team with a better defense and I wouldn't touch Binnington and his contract with a ten foot pole. Yotes likely couldn't replace Vejmelka at the price that they have him and he and Ingram are a reasonable tandem for next year at this point. Doesn't leave much.

In lieu of Markstrom perhaps Vladar is the better target. As for Allen, cap hit may be doable going forward. Wonder what the ask would be.

Mrazek's Groin is made out of sand

To
G Petr Mrazek (50% retained)

Mrazek is playing great behind trainwreck and should be improvement for Leafs. When Woll comes back he and Mrazek can play down stretch for who gets right to be #1 in playoffs

Mrazek first go round in Toronto didn't go well with him injured and his confidence shot. He is healthy and has built back his mental game this year

To
G Ilya Samsonov
Leafs 2024 4th round pick
Canucks 2024 5th round pick

Hawks get back picks in 4th and 5th round this year (Having previously traded own) and get Samsonov to finish out year with Soderblom as worst goalie duo in NHL and secure top 3 pick at minimum. Maybe Jimmy Waite can get Samsonov back on track

Mrazek's groin is made of sand, the Leafs would never bring him back, let alone pay draft picks to do it.

The draft picks are on the wrong side.

 

[Score08]

Bruins rapidly playing themselves out of playoff race, what would leafs be willing to give up for ulmark ?

 

[Double Dion]

Just Tanev. 50% on Markstrom would probably be too expensive. I’m still not convinced Conroy can do it on UFAs. Just have to believe him on his Zadorov comments lol

Yes that's fair then.

Markstrom comes with a massive contract, so it's not an apples to apples comparison.

I wasn't comparing Markstrom. They aren't comparable. Primeau is worse than Vladar. We'd be lucky to get a 5th for Vladar. You're talking about a 3rd string goalie requiring waivers for a team that doesn't have a starting caliber goalie. He's waiver fodder, not a top 100 pick.

 

[TS Quint]

I'm just blind stat watching here but why not go after Joey Daccord? Thowing up a .907 on a not so good Kracken team. $1.2m with an extra year.

 

[JRichard]

Bruins rapidly playing themselves out of playoff race, what would leafs be willing to give up for ulmark ?

They are? Man my standings must be wrong…

 

[SomeDude]

Don’t you have to leave the market to enter it again?

 

[JRichard]

I'm just blind stat watching here but why not go after Joey Daccord? Thowing up a .907 on a not so good Kracken team. $1.2m with an extra year.

Do not apologize. Only a few in here watch all teams from all leagues.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Definitely time for Toronto to throw all their picks and prospects at a mid-level journeyman. Gotta go all in during the Matthews-Nylander-Marner window.

 

[KCC]

So Friedman said that once the trade Freeze is lifted on the 28th that that the Leafs will enter the goalie market and you know what? they kind of have to.

The Toronto Maple Leafs right now are down the one useable goalie and that's Martin Jones.

Woll is hurt and Samsonov is not an option he got to go.

I wonder who Treliving targets, I could see him calling up Carolina about Raanta, I know Raanta has had an awful season but he's at least got a track record of being a good goalie, his problem is he also gets injured.

I also wonder about Markstrom, seeing as Treliving brought to Calgary.

I wonder about Binnington on the Blues, he's not my first choice but I still bet Treliving places a call.

I doubt Montreal helps out Toronto but we know Jake Allen is available.

I wonder about Vejmelka if Arizona falls out.

And Gibson, I've also been a Gibson guy, I think if you get him off the Ducks he goes back to being John Gibson he just NEEDS to get off the Ducks.

Somebody needs to be brought in.

Feels like half the league is looking for more goaltending this year.

 

[Baksfamous112]

If I was spending assets on a goalie I’d go for one that has been a starter for a few years at least. Montebaulm might get there though

At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter as Montembault just signed a new contract with Montreal, so I don’t think he’s going anywhere anyway. I was just referring to his play being « starter worthy » in the past two years and the rationale behind him being called a backup

Cheers and Merry Christmas!

 

[eramosat]

LOL. The Leafs hardly have to enter the goalie market, as compared to other teams also being similarly tagged!!

Compare the Leaf's situation to NJ, Edm, Carolina and worse. Leafs are in a great point earned position, better than those clubs mentioned, the biggest factor. They actually have one ok goalie and one goalie they're trying to mentally prepare...and they often outscore even that fragile goalie's mistakes. And they have a reliable goalie they love coming back after injury fairly shortly.

Edmonton still has to climb into the playoff race and address a similar GK problem at same time.

NJ still has to climb into the playoff race, and decide if their awful healthy tandem is useful.

Carolina has to maintain a wildcard, with looming decision on health of one of their stalwarts. They also have a mental game vet performing poorly, and a youth with the chance to be heavy goto.

Toronto is comfortably in the playoffs already (for this time of the season), and has done so for a while with the exact same goalie issue.

For Toronto to compete with any of those teams for scarce goalie upgrades would be moronic. Both of their rostered goalies can easily win a game on any given night...sky is far from falling.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

LOL. The Leafs hardly have to enter the goalie market, as compared to other teams also being similarly tagged!!

Compare the Leaf's situation to NJ, Edm, Carolina and worse. Leafs are in a great point earned position, better than those clubs mentioned, the biggest factor. They actually have one ok goalie and one goalie they're trying to mentally prepare...and they often outscore even that fragile goalie's mistakes. And they have a reliable goalie they love coming back after injury fairly shortly.

Edmonton still has to climb into the playoff race and address a similar GK problem at same time.

NJ still has to climb into the playoff race, and decide if their awful healthy tandem is useful.

Carolina has to maintain a wildcard, with looming decision on health of one of their stalwarts. They also have a mental game vet performing poorly, and a youth with the chance to be heavy goto.

Toronto is comfortably in the playoffs already (for this time of the season), and has done so for a while with the exact same goalie issue.

For Toronto to compete with any of those teams for scarce goalie upgrades would be moronic. Both of their rostered goalies can easily win a game on any given night...sky is far from falling.

Sure. If you’re goal is to make the playoffs they can overcome their poor goaltending.
They’re in the same boat as Edmonton though and need better goaltending if they want to compete for a cup.

 

[Score08]

They are? Man my standings must be wrong…

They are a house of cards ready to fall. And I say this as a die hard bruins fan.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Goalie market really blows right now. I’d draft at least 1 goalie in every draft. Not having a legit goalie can really sink a solid team with high aspirations.

The Leafs have a promising future, at least one of Hildeby or Akymatov should pull through. Woll is also quite good but injured now.

Jones has been solid but Samsonov has been very unreliable.

Aky and Hildeby weren't even in taken in the top 60, goes to show that goalies are voodoo.

 

[Crazy Monkey]

The quality of goalies is just not there in the NHL right now. No one to trade for thats worth it, unless its Igor or Demko and neither of those are happening

Rolling with Woll is the way to go imo

 

[n8]

Trade for Ingram or Vejmelka and the Cup is yours.

 

[pth2]

I wasn't comparing Markstrom. They aren't comparable. Primeau is worse than Vladar. We'd be lucky to get a 5th for Vladar. You're talking about a 3rd string goalie requiring waivers for a team that doesn't have a starting caliber goalie. He's waiver fodder, not a top 100 pick

Habs don't plan on losing him on waivers. He's clearly taken a next forward over the course of the season to date, going from near-waiver fodder to a useful backup.

 

[Golden_Jet]

The quality of goalies is just not there in the NHL right now. No one to trade for thats worth it, unless its Igor or Demko and neither of those are happening

Rolling with Woll is the way to go imo

Hard to say, a lot of players struggle for up to a year after a high ankle sprain. Not sure if it’s better or worse for a goalie or skater.
If struggles then get a goalie near TDL,