Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign RHD John Klingberg (1 year, $4.15M) | UPD 11/23: LTIR

[Macallan18]

As soon as we get healthy, put him on waivers. Thank god it was only a year contract.

hmm, no one will take him, trade him and give up a pick with him to dump him

 

[ACC1224]

TJ was no gem out there tonight either

No one stood out as very good but he was one of the only plus players on the night.

As soon as we get healthy, put him on waivers. Thank god it was only a year contract.

What's the implication of that?

 

[DarkKnight]

hmm, no one will take him, trade him and give up a pick with him to dump him

Not sure about that, on a one year deal. He can quarterback a power play. Not a given imo.

What's the implication of that?

It isn’t a positive for us, but I’d cut bait, he’s unplayable. It’s astounding to watch a vet with such low hockey IQ, the brain dead plays he’s making blow my mind.

 

[ACC1224]

Not sure about that, on a one year deal. He can quarterback a power play. Not a given imo.


It isn’t a positive for us, but I’d cut bait, he’s unplayable. It’s astounding to watch a vet with such low hockey IQ, the brain dead plays he’s making blow my mind.

If he is waived, would his remining salary plus Timmins salary as a replacement be pretty much a wash?

 

[supermann_98]

I may take some heat in here but i would've rather paid Gudas or Schenn $4m annually for multiple years over giving this guy $4m on a 1-year deal.

At least those guys give us something sorely lacking on the back end like toughness and some intimidation factor

 

[Transplanted Caper]

If he is waived, would his remining salary plus Timmins salary as a replacement be pretty much a wash?

If he's waived and sent to the Marlies, the cap savings would be $1.15m so it would cover Timmins coming off LTIR.

 

[showtime8]

I may take some heat in here but i would've rather paid Gudas or Schenn $4m annually for multiple years over giving this guy $4m on a 1-year deal.

At least those guys give us something sorely lacking on the back end like toughness and some intimidation factor

The signing from the start was a confusing one. Outside of the multiple years, you're probably not wrong on this.

The most frustrating part is that he just doesn't have a feel for the defensive game from centre ice and back. Gap control is weak. Assisgnments are non-existant & he isn't providing any offense.

 

[Stephen]

I may take some heat in here but i would've rather paid Gudas or Schenn $4m annually for multiple years over giving this guy $4m on a 1-year deal.

At least those guys give us something sorely lacking on the back end like toughness and some intimidation factor

I loved Schenn on his second tour but I’m not so sure it was a mistake letting him go. He’s already hit injury reserve in Nashville after 1 game. Like give me 2022-23 Schenn all day but that would have probably ended poorly also.

I say if the season flames out it will be nice to unload Klingberg for a small prospect or pick return to a team that thinks it can Larry Murphy us.

 

[Pebble live]

I may take some heat in here but i would've rather paid Gudas or Schenn $4m annually for multiple years over giving this guy $4m on a 1-year deal.

At least those guys give us something sorely lacking on the back end like toughness and some intimidation factor

Been watching a lot of ducks games this season and Gudas has looked really good. He absolutely was someone this team could have used.

If Mo wasn't such a muffin on the backend Klingberg wouldn't have been required. When a 40 yar old vet is in your Top 6 you have some serious issues back there. Outside of Lilly that group needs to be torn apart.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

This is a good thread to re-read for sure

 

[TheRumble]

I seriously have to question Trelivings decision making skills. What did he see over the last few seasons that motivated him to sign Klingberg for $4.15 million is beyond me.

It's based on reputation. Klingberg was once a very good dman and because he was a part of the Stars' run to the finals in 2019-20, he gets the benefit of the deep playoff run contract bonus.

How many times have you witnessed players that were role players on Cup winners or Cup finalists get a big payday and flop? Lets count them:

- Nazem Kadri - A player btw, that everyone on this subreddit said was better than Tavares because of ONE outlier season.
- Bryan Bickell - Member of the Cup winning Blackhawks dynasty, got his payday in Carolina.
- Dave Bolland - Received a 4x$5.5 deal from Florida with a no move clause
- James Neal - Made the finals with the Golden Knights and was rewarded with 5x$5.75 deal immediately afterwards

 

[ACC1224]

The signing from the start was a confusing one. Outside of the multiple years, you're probably not wrong on this.

The most frustrating part is that he just doesn't have a feel for the defensive game from centre ice and back. Gap control is weak. Assisgnments are non-existant & he isn't providing any offense.

Try watching him live, just brutal.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Can't be any worse than Holl

Lol, Klingberg says hold my beer

 

[Leafs at Knight]

More than I trust Gustafsson. And Holl, Gio and maybe if Liljegren for 82 games.

If you prorate Klingberg’s numbers to 82 games;

Anaheim:
39 points
-46
3.4 Point Share

Minny:
44 points
+15
8.2 Point Share

For comparison sake here is Rielly;
52 points
-11
6.7

I don’t expect Klingberg to be better than Rielly but he can easily be better than Brodie, McCabe, Liljegren, Giordano and others who aren’t with the team who played in the top 4; Schenn and Holl

Haha

 

[Leafs at Knight]

I honestly like this signing a lot more than most people. This team needs more skating and more skill from the backend. He brings that to the 2nd/3rd pairing.

I never expected him to be a target but it makes sense. For 1 year, this is a very good move to give us more puck movement.

There's a lot of upside to Klingberg bouncing back. He wouldn't be the first player in the NHL to do so.

Still feel like it's a very good move?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

It's based on reputation. Klingberg was once a very good dman and because he was a part of the Stars' run to the finals in 2019-20, he gets the benefit of the deep playoff run contract bonus.

How many times have you witnessed players that were role players on Cup winners or Cup finalists get a big payday and flop? Lets count them:

- Nazem Kadri - A player btw, that everyone on this subreddit said was better than Tavares because of ONE outlier season.
- Bryan Bickell - Member of the Cup winning Blackhawks dynasty, got his payday in Carolina.
- Dave Bolland - Received a 4x$5.5 deal from Florida with a no move clause
- James Neal - Made the finals with the Golden Knights and was rewarded with 5x$5.75 deal immediately afterwards

Hi - just lurking because I'm a Canes fan that lives in Toronto but wanted to point out that Bickell didn't get his payday in Carolina. He got it in Chicago and they had to attach Teuvo Teravainen to him in order to offload his contract. Canes paid a 2nd and 3rd (the 2nd was acquired from NYR in the E Staal trade).

Anyway, your point still stands, just clarifying that contract/transaction.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Yep, I've seen enough, he's cooked.

Waivers it is, once everybody gets healthy and give Timmins a chance, he can't be worse than this.

Also, call Calgary Brad and get Hanifan in here. Wow was that pitiful to watch. Woll had a good game and he let 6 in. That's how bad the defence was.

 

[ACC1224]

Yep, I've seen enough, he's cooked.

Waivers it is, once everybody gets healthy and give Timmins a chance, he can't be worse than this.

Also, call Calgary Brad and get Hanifan in here. Wow was that pitiful to watch. Woll had a good game and he let 6 in. That's how bad the defence was.

What?

 

[SprDaVE]

Still feel like it's a very good move?

You've never been wrong before around here? Feeling good this morning?

I was optimistic and I've been wrong before. Not enough offence to justify the brutal defensive play. Congrats, you were (probably) right.

 

[ACC1224]

You've never been wrong before around here? Feeling good this morning?

I was optimistic and I've been wrong before. Not enough offence to justify the brutal defensive play.

I'll join you in that.

 

[notbias]

This is a good thread to re-read for sure

Fire Keefe, he should be 188/188... 187/188 is a joke.

Honestly, we need to start him in the ozone only and against 3rd line or 4th line, and not with Reaves on the ice.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

You can't protect a guy who is washed .. he can't skate anymore folks .. and his defensive structural play is completely non existent

 

[Kiwi]

This is a good thread to re-read for sure

There's nothing Keefe can do for him
He's straight up unusable

I don't expect great defense out of him but at least try to act like a defenseman

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Man, at worst I was expecting him to be how Barrie was for us. Sadly, that's what we're getting. I can live with his defensive deficiencies if he provided big offence. But he can't even do that. Why Keefe keeps rolling him out as PP1QB is beyond me. That's on him (Keefe).

 

[AvroArrow]

This guy is worse than Jake Gardiner. I'm not joking.