Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign RHD John Klingberg (1 year, $4.15M) | UPD 11/23: LTIR

[The Best Leafs Everr]

Dubas is a f***ing clown too.

Not really. Look at these f***ing signings. Do you think Auston Matthews is staying at this point?

 

[Nylanderthal]

They didn't have. the roster to be competitive in the playoffs. when every team tightens up. Nor did they have the coaching... Dubus recycled. the depth on this roster many times and he just couldn't figure out how to build a playoff team.

And when Washington and the blues and for that matter the pens were losing in the first or second round year after year they also didn’t have the right make up and their stars didn’t have “it” until they did.
Matty Tkachuck everyone favourite playoff warrior was an absolute liability in every post season he played beforehand.

 

[Ciao]

That wouldn’t be good his salary would still count against the cap

If Gio retired, his salary would still count against the cap because it's a 35+ contract.

It doesn't matter if he quits, retired or gets sent to the minors. 35+ and it's on your books until it expires.

The rules are so tough on that that I sometimes wonder if the player died would his contract still count against the cap?

 

[Rare Jewel]

He's basically Barrie, except older, more expensive, worse offensively, worse defensively, and coming off of his worst season instead of a top tier playoffs.
Will be interesting to see some of the comments around here from people who hated Barrie.

At least they didn't trade Kadri to get him.

 

[Christ]

Thank Christ.

No prob!

 

[Oscar Peterson]

The ducks were dogshit, he was the top defenseman playing against their best forwards. Of course he’s not going to look good

Nah, he didn’t look good because he didn’t play well

 

[francis246]

Nah, he didn’t look good because he didn’t play well

Who on Anaheim played well? That team was the worst NHL team I’ve ever seen.

 

[Stephen]

He's a point shot threat, so if the Leafs ever went with a 3F 2D stance on the PP, they have a second shot option from the point without wasting Matthews from distance.

 

[Rare Jewel]

It certainly appears that way.

If we trade Liljegren because we signed Klingberg that will be very disappointing

I mean depends on what is offered right?

There's not much to trade after Nylander or Marner.

 

[cyris]

If Gio retired, his salary would still count against the cap because it's a 35+ contract.

It doesn't matter if he quits, retired or gets sent to the minors. 35+ and it's on your books until it expires.

The rules are so tough on that that I sometimes wonder if the player died would his contract still count against the cap?

They did change the rules a bit on 35+ contracts and while I think I have the basics of it I’m not confident enough to speak on it in detail.
But basically as long as there is no signing bonuses and the salary doesn’t change year over year not all the 35+ conditions apply

 

[Stephen]

I don’t see why not. He’s really good at moving the puck.



It certainly appears that way.

If we trade Liljegren because we signed Klingberg that will be very disappointing

I don't see much of a point in trading Liljegren when he makes so little money.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Did you not watch the playoffs. Rielly was the best D man on either team by a long way.

Rielly is really bad on the powerplay. He can gain the zone but almost never shoots so he is completely predictable, and when he does shoot it is a complete muffin.

That said, this is another one of those high-risk possibly high-reward deals the Leafs have been forced into by their incredibly bad cap management the past few years. Reclamation projects hoooo!

 

[Oscar Peterson]

Who on Anaheim played well? That team was the worst NHL team I’ve ever seen.

Zegras and Terry lol.
You’re not wrong, their team was horrendous. My brother is huge Ducks fan and I watched about 10 games, Klingberg looked worse than Shattenkirk every time which is not a cause for optimism for me haha

Still I’ll give him a fair chance of course and root him on, but I can’t pretend that I’m happy about it

 

[TimeZone]

Not really. Look at these f***ing signings. Do you think Auston Matthews is staying at this point?

Because Dubas was just full of gem signings today himself.

Brad and Kyle both being miserable GM's are not mutually exclusive, and I want to make that clear.

 

[The Iceman]

He only got a 4th rounder a few months ago

Plus 2 players, one filler. One a lottery ticket.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Not really. Look at these f***ing signings. Do you think Auston Matthews is staying at this point?

Good, he can f*** off. Just trade him beforehand.

Burn this thing to the ground. It's a house built on a foundation of sewage.

 

[garce]

At least they didn't trade Kadri to get him.

Every team Barrie left got better, look out for Nashville if they can dump him.

 

[AustonMarner]

If Treliving can sign Domi and Lemieux...
I think the Leafs would have what would be closer to a playoff team... trade Brodie, sign Mayfield if possible... definitely need a few more key moves still...

 

[diceman934]

Rielly is really bad on the powerplay. He can gain the zone but almost never shoots so he is completely predictable, and when he does shoot it is a complete muffin.

That said, this is another one of those high-risk possibly high-reward deals the Leafs have been forced into by their incredibly bad cap management the past few years. Reclamation projects hoooo!

Lol the top rated PP he is a passer on a very effective pp.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I don't see much of a point in trading Liljegren when he makes so little money.

I agree, but there isn't much in terms of tradable players beyond say Nylander.

Perhaps Samsonov.

 

[Dekes For Days]

At least they didn't trade Kadri to get him.

Kadri's not as big of a loss as you make it out to be. We let a lot more than Kadri walk out the door this offseason to pay for this.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Lol the top rated PP he is a passer on a very effective pp.

The Leafs powerplay is successful in spite of their defensemen tbh.. that is why they so often have to play forwards on the point.

This guy should at least help that.

 

[Stephen]

Kadri's not as big of a loss as you make it out to be. We let a lot more than Kadri walk out the door this offseason to pay for this.

Kerfoot and Holl?

 

[Rare Jewel]

Kadri's not as big of a loss as you make it out to be. We let a lot more than Kadri walk out the door this offseason to pay for this.

Please...

 

[Nylanderthal]

Rielly is really bad on the powerplay. He can gain the zone but almost never shoots so he is completely predictable, and when he does shoot it is a complete muffin.

That said, this is another one of those high-risk possibly high-reward deals the Leafs have been forced into by their incredibly bad cap management the past few years. Reclamation projects hoooo!

You mean those last few years where the cap has climbed a whopping 2m in 4 years? its as if we don't even bother trying to be objective in our observations these days.