Stephen
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That's what I think too. Had the $4 million locked and loaded.
Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign RHD John Klingberg (1 year, $4.15M) | UPD 11/23: LTIR
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That's what I think too. Had the $4 million locked and loaded.
Havoc
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Gonna bump this thread after he hits his 40th assist on this team.
He was good in Dallas all the way through.
He apparently was a tire fire in Anaheim.
But we will see how much that is due to team
It’s not a massive term. I guess it takes them out of pesce.
How do you look good on that team exactly? It’s one year with minimal risk. Let’s see how the D core looks on opening night.
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Maple Leafs lose valuable pieces but add Reaves, Klingberg in free agency
The hole punched into the Maple Leafs' roster to open free agency might as well have been left by Ryan Reaves' fist as Toronto added the fourth-line banger plus offensive defenceman John Klingberg but lost valuable members of the supporting cast.
The Big Four has no issue scoring, but when you look at the eroding supporting cast, the Maple Leafs may have a difficult time winning as much as their recent 115- and 111-point seasons.
That’s where Klingberg comes in.
Toronto lacked production from the back end in 2022-23. Timothy Liljegren led the Leafs’ D in goals with six. (Hence, the tire-kicking on Erik Karlsson.)
The 30-year-old, right-shot Klingberg arrives motivated on a reasonable one-year, $4.15 million bet on himself. Even in a decidedly down year with rebuilding Anaheim (and later Minnesota), Klingberg put up 10 goals and 33 points in 77 games.
Klingberg’s bomb from the point adds an exciting wrinkle to Toronto’s stacked power play, he’s deft in transition, and he arrives with 66 games of playoff experience.
“John would probably be the first one to tell you it didn’t go exactly the way he wanted it to go last year, but he’s a really good player in this league,” Trelving said. “He’s an elite offensive player in-zone.”
The weird thing for me is that Connor Timmins performed extremely well offensively when in the lineup last season and is also RHD and makes 1.1M.
This signing is just so needless in every sense. It’s a waste of money.
I’m having trouble understanding the vision.
This signing is just so needless in every sense. It’s a waste of money.
I’m having trouble understanding the vision.
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Dayjobdave
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I think we still need some grit on the back end, but a huge problem in rd 2 was our inability to move the puck quickly out of our zone. Worth a shot, and it would be great to have a point shot on the pp.
Rare Jewel
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TOI reflects the quality of the player he's playing. He's clearly not a shutdown guy, nor does he have a partner to compensate, in addition to being on a team with an awful structure/system.
Granted, he performed poorly, but at least there's offensive gain with him.
As I mentioned in another post, I'd be curious to see what his numbers look like based on his 17 games + playoffs with the Wild compared to the games with the Ducks as that chart was made in January.
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Rare Jewel
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More than anything, at least it shows they aren't just signing people based on their physical traits.
Stephen
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Well, Conor Timmins was a 9D on the depth chart in the playoffs so it makes sense that he would be easing into the job with a Klingberg ahead of him. Whether this was the most pressing need, you could debate that. But if we're getting Dallas or even Minnesota Klingberg its a good acquisition.
NHL contract grades: Maple Leafs make risky bet on John Klingberg
This isn't going to make or break the Leafs' season but there are a lot of questions around John Klingberg.
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The contract
John Klingberg signs a one-year, $4.15 million AAV deal with the Maple Leafs.
Dom Luszczyszyn: There’s a reason many Leafs fans were so downtrodden that a slightly above-average GM was pushed aside a little over a month ago: Fear of the alternative. Even if Kyle Dubas wasn’t perfect — and we’re seeing that first-hand with his new team — Leafs fans understood all too well how much worse it could be. They’ve lived through it and early returns suggest they’re about to live through it again.
First, it was David Kampf. Then it was Ryan Reaves. And now the latest in a list of sub-optimal deals: John Klingberg for one year at $4.15 million.
It could’ve been worse, yes. It could’ve been more money and it could’ve been more term. That it was a short and somewhat stomach-able deal keeps this from being an abject disaster.
It could’ve been a player without much of any pedigree. If you squint there’s a way to see this working for the Leafs. This team needs offensive firepower from the blue line besides Morgan Rielly, a real creative threat that can jump-start the offense from the back end with elite puck-moving ability. Klingberg has been that before and the best part of the deal is that even if it looks bad on the surface there is some real home run potential. If he can be anywhere close to the player he was a few years ago this can be a big win.
It’s much more likely though that this will be a huge swing-and-a-miss, one that in one fell swoop massively hurts a defensive game that the Leafs have spent years fortifying. Klingberg isn’t just your ordinary defensive black hole, he was objectively the most porous defenseman last season. It’s possible that’s the Anaheim effect, but even in a short stint with the Wild, Klingberg allowed a massive amount of chances relative to the team. And that was mostly in a sheltered role.
On a better team, Klingberg might work and if there’s anywhere it could happen Toronto feels like it. There’s a great staff and development program that can cure what ails him, plus the possibility of playing with defensive stalwarts like TJ Brodie or Jake McCabe. That’s best case scenario. Worst case? The most maligned defenseman in franchise history — and that’s saying a lot.
Contract grade: C-
Fit grade: B-
The last two years he has been a major defensive liability.
Stephen
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At least we won't have Green Light Holl pretending to be an offensive defenseman when joining the rush and a guy who can actually do it. I don't know what his defensive game is like but he's 6'3" and can at least give you some semblance of length defender stuff.
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The Leafs drafted Nylander, Marner and then Matthews and should have been able to build a competitive team around those three and have failed miserably.
Stephen
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NHL contract grades: Maple Leafs make risky bet on John Klingberg
This isn't going to make or break the Leafs' season but there are a lot of questions around John Klingberg.
The contract
John Klingberg signs a one-year, $4.15 million AAV deal with the Maple Leafs.
Dom Luszczyszyn: There’s a reason many Leafs fans were so downtrodden that a slightly above-average GM was pushed aside a little over a month ago: Fear of the alternative. Even if Kyle Dubas wasn’t perfect — and we’re seeing that first-hand with his new team — Leafs fans understood all too well how much worse it could be. They’ve lived through it and early returns suggest they’re about to live through it again.
First, it was David Kampf. Then it was Ryan Reaves. And now the latest in a list of sub-optimal deals: John Klingberg for one year at $4.15 million.
It could’ve been worse, yes. It could’ve been more money and it could’ve been more term. That it was a short and somewhat stomach-able deal keeps this from being an abject disaster.
It could’ve been a player without much of any pedigree. If you squint there’s a way to see this working for the Leafs. This team needs offensive firepower from the blue line besides Morgan Rielly, a real creative threat that can jump-start the offense from the back end with elite puck-moving ability. Klingberg has been that before and the best part of the deal is that even if it looks bad on the surface there is some real home run potential. If he can be anywhere close to the player he was a few years ago this can be a big win.
It’s much more likely though that this will be a huge swing-and-a-miss, one that in one fell swoop massively hurts a defensive game that the Leafs have spent years fortifying. Klingberg isn’t just your ordinary defensive black hole, he was objectively the most porous defenseman last season. It’s possible that’s the Anaheim effect, but even in a short stint with the Wild, Klingberg allowed a massive amount of chances relative to the team. And that was mostly in a sheltered role.
On a better team, Klingberg might work and if there’s anywhere it could happen Toronto feels like it. There’s a great staff and development program that can cure what ails him, plus the possibility of playing with defensive stalwarts like TJ Brodie or Jake McCabe. That’s best case scenario. Worst case? The most maligned defenseman in franchise history — and that’s saying a lot.
Contract grade: C-
Fit grade: B-
Dom Luszczyszyn, in case you weren't keeping track of the Dubas era very carefully, you'll notice we had annual UFA misfires in Petr Mrazek, Nick Ritchie, Jimmy Vesey and an own goal addition in Matt Murray on the same day we got rid of Mrazek. Other shitty additions like Cody Ceci, Tyson Barrie every summer.
Klingberg could very well not work out, but to play the Dubas vs Treliving game as if we're experiencing some massive fall off is gutless.
Stephen
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Yeah me too, the novelty factor for an EK65 on Toronto would have been spectacular.
Rare Jewel
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Bad deal, there is no way around this.
Lucky it is only ONE year but watch he plays great and extend him for more money
Lucky it is only ONE year but watch he plays great and extend him for more money
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