TSN: Leafs set to interview Treliving for GM role

[Morbo]

again...2 playoff wins in 9 years

if you hate Dubas for the team's postseason failures, not sure how you love Treliving

 

[Notsince67]

Player came from last 10 draft before treliving

2013 monahan
2012 jankowski
2011 , gaudreau
2008 tj brodie
2007 backlund
2004 prust

Now 9 of treliving
2014 bennett
2015 andersson, kyllington, mangiapanne
2016 tkachuk, dube, fox
2017 ruzicka
2019 pelletier, wolf

Rest is too soon to evaluate in first 5 season, Calgary draft pratically 2X amount of good player than the 10 year before...

Should be surprising he was one of oldest team when they didnt get the job done at draft before he hired a calgary GM? Should we surprising he needed to pay and overpay free agent to fill hole in his line up with only few young player able to step in?

For the quality of team he obtained and city difficulty, honestly i think he did in general a good job in Calgary and i just dont undrrstand why everyones complain about him...

He still made playoff 5 of 9 season he was there without having a top team but enough good to have some succes

Looks like the one they should be hiring is Darryl Sutter. Heard he was looking for a job

 

[thusk]

Toronto is a desired City for players? Desired by Americans who grew up in a sun belt. Not sure I agree.

Toronto is a hockey town and 1 of biggest market, 1 of original 6. Toronto with a huge hockey history. A lot of canadian player grew up watching leafs. You having most more thing to do in Toronto than a boring Calgary

No team spent as much money on coach, gym, psy, trainer, medical staff, traveling and whatever player can need. Its an other attrative thing for players

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

a good point in here is that a player's mutiny occured in Calgary under Treliving's watch, what's to stop the same from happening here???????

I tend to think a lot of the coaches he hired were "Suggested to him" by either Burke or Maloney. Could be all Treliving's doing for all we know...but I doubt he would have quit his job over Sutter had he picked him. Sounds more like a Burke hire to me. I guess he will feel right at home here with the bosses meddling if that part is true about Shanny doing it.

 

[thusk]

again...2 playoff wins in 9 years

if you hate Dubas for the team's postseason failures, not sure how you love Treliving

Hudler, monahan, gaudreau, wideman, gio, brodie, bouma, russel, glenncross, colborne, backlund was their best player with jonas hiller as goaltender... with any prospect pool at all

That the team treliving started with... just the fact calgary reached playoff 5 of 9 season is great with that kind of team he had

 

[Smif]

Pretty sure it isn't Don Waddell calling the shots in Carolina.

Why why why why why???

 

[Trapper]

Mike Milbury is the only GM I can think of that covers that criteria.

Mike Milbury: How to destroy a franchise in 5 easy steps.

 

[Morbo]

Hudler, monahan, gaudreau, wideman, gio, brodie, bouma, russel, glenncross, colborne, backlund was their best player with jonas hiller as goaltender... with any prospect pool at all

That the team treliving started with... just the fact calgary reached playoff 5 of 9 season is great with that kind of team he had

I don't see how any of that helps the Maple Leafs in their current situation

 

[AvroArrow]

again...2 playoff wins in 9 years

if you hate Dubas for the team's postseason failures, not sure how you love Treliving

2 > 1 Obviously

I hope there's a better option than Treliving, I'm not really a fan of his. He did kind of have his hand forced in Calgary though. He wanted Sutter out, was over ruled, the players all hated Sutter and all requested trades because of him. He had to get rid of Tkachuk and made what 99% of the hockey world thought was a home run win at the time of the trade.

I don't think he's great but I don't think he's as bad as some people are saying he is. Kadri was a FA and was getting that money from pretty much every team with the cap space available. I think he's like an average NHL gm, not great, not horrible.

 

[Martin Skoula]

2 > 1 Obviously

I hope there's a better option than Treliving, I'm not really a fan of his. He did kind of have his hand forced in Calgary though. He wanted Sutter out, was over ruled, the players all hated Sutter and all requested trades because of him. He had to get rid of Tkachuk and made what 99% of the hockey world thought was a home run win at the time of the trade.

I don't think he's great but I don't think he's as bad as some people are saying he is. Kadri was a FA and was getting that money from pretty much every team with the cap space available. I think he's like an average NHL gm, not great, not horrible.

I hope there's a better option than Dubas 2.0, I'm not really a fan of his. He did kind of have his hand forced in Toronto though. He wanted Babcock out, was over ruled, the players all hated Babcock and all requested overpayments because of him. He had to get rid of Kadri and made what 99% of the hockey world thought was a home run win at the time of the trade.

I don't think he's great but I don't think he's as bad as some people are saying he is. Tavares was a FA and was getting that money from pretty much every team with the cap space available. I think he's like an average NHL gm, not great, not horrible



Eerie how similar the two are to be honest. Shanahan certainly has a type.

 

[AvroArrow]

I hope there's a better option than Dubas 2.0, I'm not really a fan of his. He did kind of have his hand forced in Toronto though. He wanted Babcock out, was over ruled, the players all hated Babcock and all requested overpayments because of him. He had to get rid of Kadri and made what 99% of the hockey world thought was a home run win at the time of the trade.

I don't think he's great but I don't think he's as bad as some people are saying he is. Tavares was a FA and was getting that money from pretty much every team with the cap space available. I think he's like an average NHL gm, not great, not horrible



Eerie how similar the two are to be honest. Shanahan certainly has a type.

Yes and no. The Babcock firing absolutely he was over ruled. The shitty contract negotiations were all on him, we had all the leverage and he fumbled it. The Kadri trade was a massive fail the moment it happened, everyone here hated it.

The Tavares signing is the only similarity really here.

 

[LaPlante94]

It is what it is no doubt .. to me I have watched a couple games since Leafs went out but da interest level is just so low even I flipped to NBA basketball more than hockey .. last night i decided to watch cats vs canes game and it looked to me like Canes were far better team and refs actually decided game with a FAKE tripping call with a minute left .. tripping is generally when a guy reaches out and sticks his stick in guys leg or foot area to intentionally stop him .. omg last night it was Stall coming in for a check with his stick in normal position and opposing player skates right into his stick .. do you consider that a trip???????? and that play decided that game .. to me da refs wanted Florida in final .. not sure why??????? but maybe bettman wants a new stanley cup champ in vegas or Cats???????????

If they didn't call it people would complain they didn't call it. Seems like no matter what the refs do they get bitched at and blamed for handing a team a win. Viewership wise I'd blame scheduling more than anything. They'll have like 4 or 5 games during the regular season on at the same time. During the playoffs they'd do the same thing especially in the 1st round and even when 1 game was on they'd start it at 10PM when McDavid is playing who is the face of the league. On a weekend I'm sure most wouldn't care as much but during the week most of us have to get up between 5-7 am.

 

[Leafsfan74]

I don't care who the next GM is, IMO if Marner is back this Leafs playoffs prospects are dismal. I'd move on from two of the core if necessary.

If Shanny is the one keeping the core together he needs to join the players on the way out. A dismal playoff record over 9 years or however long he has been here is embarrassing.

 

[TMLAM34]

Toronto is a hockey town and 1 of biggest market, 1 of original 6. Toronto with a huge hockey history. A lot of canadian player grew up watching leafs. You having most more thing to do in Toronto than a boring Calgary

No team spent as much money on coach, gym, psy, trainer, medical staff, traveling and whatever player can need. Its an other attrative thing for players

I wouldn’t necessarily say you have so much more to do in Toronto than Calgary. The weather is what really hurts Calgary in the winter. They’re pretty harsh and long. But give me Banff and hour away and I’ll take that over anything Toronto has to offer tbh.

 

[Hellcat]

Player came from last 10 draft before treliving

2013 monahan
2012 jankowski
2011 , gaudreau
2008 tj brodie
2007 backlund
2004 prust

Now 9 of treliving
2014 bennett
2015 andersson, kyllington, mangiapanne
2016 tkachuk, dube, fox
2017 ruzicka
2019 pelletier, wolf

Rest is too soon to evaluate in first 5 season, Calgary draft pratically 2X amount of good player than the 10 year before...

Should be surprising he was one of oldest team when they didnt get the job done at draft before he hired a calgary GM? Should we surprising he needed to pay and overpay free agent to fill hole in his line up with only few young player able to step in?

For the quality of team he obtained and city difficulty, honestly i think he did in general a good job in Calgary and i just dont undrrstand why everyones complain about him...

He still made playoff 5 of 9 season he was there without having a top team but enough good to have some succes

Holy crap that 2016 years Fox and Tkachuk. Norris winner and possibly this years Conn Smythe.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Yes and no. The Babcock firing absolutely he was over ruled. The shitty contract negotiations were all on him, we had all the leverage and he fumbled it. The Kadri trade was a massive fail the moment it happened, everyone here hated it.

The Tavares signing is the only similarity really here.

The Kadri trade was overwhelmingly seen in our favour at the time it was made, we were expecting a 60+ point first pair RHD at 50% retention. It wasn’t until Babcock neutered Barrie that it looked bad. You can go back through the original trade thread if it’s still on the servers, it was 60-70% of neutral fans calling it a win for us.

 

[AvroArrow]

I don't care who the next GM is, IMO if Marner is back this Leafs playoffs prospects are dismal. I'd move on from two of the core if necesary.

If Shanny is the one keeping the core together he needs to jo in the players on e way out. A dismal playoff record over 9 yeaes or however long he has been here is embarrassing.

Marner is our Huberdeau. Regular season super hero, playoff casper. We need a GM that's focused on building a team that can compete in the playoffs, not in the regular season. That has been Dubas' and the entire management groups biggest flaw. They think the playoffs will be played and officiated the same way the regular season is, that will obviously never happen. Either adjust or keep failing.

 

[ACC1224]

The Kadri trade was overwhelmingly seen in our favour at the time it was made, we were expecting a 60+ point first pair RHD at 50% retention. It wasn’t until Babcock neutered Barrie that it looked bad. You can go back through the original trade thread if it’s still on the servers, it was 60-70% of neutral fans calling it a win for us.

This is true and most people thought Treliving did very well in moving Tkachuk given the circumstances.

 

[AvroArrow]

The Kadri trade was overwhelmingly seen in our favour at the time it was made, we were expecting a 60+ point first pair RHD at 50% retention. It wasn’t until Babcock neutered Barrie that it looked bad. You can go back through the original trade thread if it’s still on the servers, it was 60-70% of neutral fans calling it a win for us.

What? By who? Everyone was calling for Dubas' head, Kadri had term at 4.5M a proven 30 goal scorer elite defensively for 1 year of Barrie and kerfoot ? Nobody called that a win for Toronto, it was a joke the moment it happened.

Barrie sucked here with Keefe too. He had a good like first 3 games under Keefe where he scored a couple goals, still complete trash defensively.

 

[Martin Skoula]

What? By who? Everyone was calling for Dubas' head, Kadri had term at 4.5M a proven 30 goal scorer elite defensively for 1 year of Barrie and kerfoot ? Nobody called that a win for Toronto, it was a joke the moment it happened.

Barrie sucked here with Keefe too. He had a good like first 3 games under Keefe where he scored a couple goals, still complete trash defensively.

Dubas got a top pair RHD at 50% retention for a guy coming off a 44 point season with back to back to back suspensions in the playoffs. What happened after is irrelevant, that’s how the trade looked at the moment it was made. most people on the main boards liked it at the time, just like most people liked Tkachuk for Huberdeau and Weegar at the time it was made. Both trades look bad in retrospect, but for some reason it’s not Tre’s fault when it happens to him because people liked the deal the day of.

 

[AvroArrow]

Dubas got a top pair RHD at 50% retention for a guy coming off a 44 point season with back to back to back suspensions in the playoffs. What happened after is irrelevant, that’s how the trade looked at the moment it was made. most people on the main boards liked it at the time, just like most people liked Tkachuk for Huberdeau and Weegar at the time it was made. Both trades look bad in retrospect, but for some reason it’s not Tre’s fault when it happens to him because people liked the deal the day of.

Couple differences here.

1) Kadri had term at 4.5M, he was an extremely valuable asset
2) Tkachuk forced a trade, he was a pending FA and was going to walk
3) Huberdeau had 115 points and was considered a top 5 winger in the league by many people, whereas Barrie considered as an elite offensive D-man, not a top 5 player by any means

 

[eddieO]

Dubas got a top pair RHD at 50% retention for a guy coming off a 44 point season with back to back to back suspensions in the playoffs. What happened after is irrelevant, that’s how the trade looked at the moment it was made. most people on the main boards liked it at the time, just like most people liked Tkachuk for Huberdeau and Weegar at the time it was made. Both trades look bad in retrospect, but for some reason it’s not Tre’s fault when it happens to him because people liked the deal the day of.

Most people on the main boards hate the Leafs so this makes sense to me. Most of us hated the trade the second it happened and were extremely vocal about it. It was a terrible trade the second it went down and should have disqualified Dubas from making another.

 

[saffronleaf]

again...2 playoff wins in 9 years

if you hate Dubas for the team's postseason failures, not sure how you love Treliving

maybe they take solace that the nerds aren't living vicariously thru him or something like that

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Barrie is one of the worst D I’ve ever seen play on the Leafs. I wanted to like him, I really did. But he was horrendous.

 

[saffronleaf]

Barrie is one of the worst D I’ve ever seen play on the Leafs. I wanted to like him, I really did. But he was horrendous.

one of the few players that literally had me screaming at the tv on multiple ocassions. there was that OT where he did his typical high and wide blast coming down the rush and leading to a two on one the other way and hte other team scored. like he was just so so stupid at times, many many times.