TSN: Leafs set to interview Treliving for GM role

[WTFMAN99]

It’s sad that the general sentiment around this guy is basically “it could be worse.”

What an exciting time to be a Leaf fan.

I could give you a better spin if you want.

Treliving would have a significantly better budget in Toronto and Toronto is an easier sell than cold ass Calgary with players.

Plus Dubas has achieved less I believe, Treliving I believe has hit 2nd round twice.

 

[Antropovsky]

If Shanahan doesn't want to trade any of the core 4 why do we need an experienced GM.

Just get the best candidate or is he afraid of the contracts for mathews marner and Nylander .

Matheau Darche from what I here has been in on every trade descussions in TB.

Tampa just traded an entire draft year for Jeannot.

 

[justashadowof]

I actually think Hyman would have a been a risk free signing in the sense that he will most likely end up on LTIR for the last few years of his deal. He gets injured almost yearly now with those knees of his.

Hyman has held up surprisingly well in Edmonton so far. Still thinking that he will break down in the middle of this contract. He plays a style that's very hard on the body.

 

[justashadowof]

The best move (if viable) is to can Brendan Shanahan then court Doug Armstrong from the Blues with a President/GM portfolio. I wouldn't do it if I were Armstrong unless I was feeling a bit like my time was expiring in St. Louis.

 

[ToDavid]

I could give you a better spin if you want.

Treliving would have a significantly better budget in Toronto and Toronto is an easier sell than cold ass Calgary with players.

Plus Dubas has achieved less I believe, Treliving I believe has hit 2nd round twice.

It’s almost worse that this is the best we’ve got for “a better spin.”

 

[Rude Dog]

Winning cures all. Jays fans were ready to drive Anthopolous to the airport in 2015 before he made a coupe of good trades and they went on a historic run and then they were chanting "Thank you , Alex" in stands for 2 years. All they did is make the playoffs.

And mgmt replaces him. He goes on to a win a world series and is in the playoffs every year. Jays have become pretty much irrelevant again outside of a few good seasons.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

I think Treliving is kinda average too, but there's an underlying theme in this thread, and on Twitter, that I'm not understanding.

The theme is that Treliving is who he is while Dubas learned the ropes in Toronto and will now go onto Pittsburgh and have great success.

Hmmmm........not sure about this. Treliving has a little more experience as GM, but they both started in managerial roles at roughly the same time. What evidence is there that Treliving can't change for the better and Dubas can? Dubas's last trade deadline? We still don't know how much of that was Spezza's or Shanny's influence. He was still making some controversial moves as early as last summer (Murray). Whether Dubas makes the right decisions or not, you can argue he's not that "forward thinking" and pretty rigid in many ways. For example, not budging on the core 4 and coach, as well as his Soo obsession. I just don't see enough evidence that Dubas is open-minded and growing while Treliving is just stuck where he is and will not grow. Treliving is a smart man and I haven't heard the term "stubborn" used to describe him. Is this an age thing? Older man can't change his thinking? I'm confused.

 

[Rude Dog]

Just feels like they are hyper focused on one target. The fact that there isn't a single whisper of another GM in the running is very concerning. I could understand if it was a GM with substantial pedigree, but to hand Treliving the job does not sit well.

 

[SprDaVE]

It’s sad that the general sentiment around this guy is basically “it could be worse.”

What an exciting time to be a Leaf fan.

I don't know what people expected when there was a real chance they were changing their vision this off-season. I understand being more excited and interested with the Leafs going with someone without any track record because there's mystery and nothing to dissect. You rarely ever hear of the bad from an AGM. I think plenty of people have dissected the good and the bad from Trelivings experience. It depends how you think that can translate to the Leafs.

We're bound to see more names get a talk from the Leafs anyway. But if Treliving gets the job in the next day or so without hearing much of other names being talked to... then yeah I get the frustration.

 

[The Masters]

The media talking about Treliving is funny. You can tell they know he's a shyt GM but don't want to trash him publicly because he could get the job. They can't even come up with any good moves for him. Kinda sad tbh. I hope Brendan pulls a rabbit outta his hat just like he did with Lou.

 

[ULF_55]

It was worse under Dubas

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[ShaneFalco]

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it burrrrnnnnssssssssssss

 

[WTFMAN99]

I think Treliving is kinda average too, but there's an underlying theme in this thread, and on Twitter, that I'm not understanding.

The theme is that Treliving is who he is while Dubas learned the ropes in Toronto and will now go onto Pittsburgh and have great success.

Hmmmm........not sure about this. Treliving has a little more experience as GM, but they both started in managerial roles at roughly the same time. What evidence is there that Treliving can't change for the better and Dubas can? Dubas's last trade deadline? We still don't know how much of that was Spezza's or Shanny's influence. He was still making some controversial moves as early as last summer (Murray). Whether Dubas makes the right decisions or not, you can argue he's not that "forward thinking" and pretty rigid in many ways. For example, not budging on the core 4 and coach, as well as his Soo obsession. I just don't see enough evidence that Dubas is open-minded and growing while Treliving is just stuck where he is and will not grow. Treliving is a smart man and I haven't heard the term "stubborn" used to describe him. Is this an age thing? Older man can't change his thinking? I'm confused.

I'll say this for Treliving, any time he saw a short coming on that Calgary team, he addressed it. Goaltending sucked? He got the best one he could, Markstrom.

Defense a let down? Tanev.

In terms of why people think he can't grow as an executive compared to Dubas...ageism? I know some dump on the older generation(s) for being out of touch with current generation issues but Treliving isn't some feeble old guy, he can definitely grow as an executive like Dubas can.

 

[Trapper]

It doesn’t matter who the next GM is if Shanahan is unwilling to make the necessary changes to the core.

The trouble with the Leafs and management is they took the wrong class in how to win school. They took math. It’s not how much you can pay, how sexy your regular season numbers are, expected goals, whatever. It’s chemistry. Until they are willing to explore that it doesn’t matter if you hire Treliving or Tredying.

 

[al secord]

I guess the grass isn't greener on the other side. Not reading through the drivel, but are the anti Dubas crowd pretending this is good news?

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

Wasn’t Sutter fired?


Strickland has no influence over the Leafs.

He was fired...but only after Treliving quit because they wanted to keep the coach. I think Maloney is the guy who wanted Sutter in the first place.

 

[Cor]

Just feels like they are hyper focused on one target. The fact that there isn't a single whisper of another GM in the running is very concerning. I could understand if it was a GM with substantial pedigree, but to hand Treliving the job does not sit well.

There has been other people mentioned, but it feels everyone has mentioned Treliving as the front runner.

Treliving is mid. He's not the best candidate, not he worst. Hard to get excited for off the bat.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Can we please read about at least one other name attached to the job, like what the hell is going on

In Calgary and Pittsburgh there were massive lists and with us its just Tanenbaums friends kid. Like at least give the false impression this is an actual search and not just a formality.

 

[Yall are crazy]

Marner had 3 hits in a playoff game once. That’s something, I guess.

So you just admitted you don't watch the gamed as that's a lie??

 

[The Masters]

Thanks tips. Dregs is washed up

 

[ACC1224]

I guess the grass isn't greener on the other side. Not reading through the drivel, but are the anti Dubas crowd pretending this is good news?

Seems like no one likes it.

He was fired...but only after Treliving quit because they wanted to keep the coach. I think Maloney is the guy who wanted Sutter in the first place.

If they wanted to keep the coach, why did they fire him?
I feel like I'm missing something obvious but I don't get it.

 

[al secord]

I always got a Dim Jim vibe from Treliving .

 

[nuck]

Just feels like they are hyper focused on one target. The fact that there isn't a single whisper of another GM in the running is very concerning. I could understand if it was a GM with substantial pedigree, but to hand Treliving the job does not sit well.

I think the reporters are hyper focused on one target. Shanny has 2 years left on his deal and this is probably his last bullet so if Tree gets the job then his vision of what the club needs was better expressed than the others. I don't believe the search is over yet though, just nothing is being leaked.

 

[tmlfan98]

Can we please read about at least one other name attached to the job, like what the hell is going on

In Calgary and Pittsburgh there were massive lists and with us its just Tanenbaums friends kid. Like at least give the false impression this is an actual search and not just a formality.

It seems pretty obvious that it is just a formality at this point though. Even if they tried to give off some false impression of a real search most people would see through it. There has been smoke around Treliving being the next GM of this team since the Flames were still in this year's playoff hunt (March 10).

 

[JT AM da real deal]

But why does any of that matter during the playoffs? Are we just gonna start rigging games so these bigger market teams can advance to keep ratings high?

It is what it is no doubt .. to me I have watched a couple games since Leafs went out but da interest level is just so low even I flipped to NBA basketball more than hockey .. last night i decided to watch cats vs canes game and it looked to me like Canes were far better team and refs actually decided game with a FAKE tripping call with a minute left .. tripping is generally when a guy reaches out and sticks his stick in guys leg or foot area to intentionally stop him .. omg last night it was Stall coming in for a check with his stick in normal position and opposing player skates right into his stick .. do you consider that a trip???????? and that play decided that game .. to me da refs wanted Florida in final .. not sure why??????? but maybe bettman wants a new stanley cup champ in vegas or Cats???????????