TSN: Leafs set to interview Treliving for GM role

[Martin Skoula]

I actually think Hyman would have a been a risk free signing in the sense that he will most likely end up on LTIR for the last few years of his deal. He gets injured almost yearly now with those knees of his.

LTIRetirement is probably the best case scenario, the likely scenario is Hyman plays 50 game seasons where he’s out for 3-6 weeks at a time and just barely misses LTIR thresholds.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Apparently the tanenbaums and the treliving family are really tight.

Yes, that is apparently true.

David Bastl said at around the 1:35:45 mark of the Steve Dangle Podcast that "The Treliving, Tannenbaum friendship is very mighty".

David Bastl said: "I would and I also I also am hearing that the Treliving, Tanenbaum friendship is very mighty. I'm just saying."



The Shanaplan | The Steve Dangle Podcast

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May 23, 2023

 

[KMNRB]

He drafted some decent players outside the first round such as Adam Fox and he picked Matthew Tkachuk in the first round. His drafting is ok. Not the greatest ever but average at least. Dubas wasn’t nearly as good at the draft table as some would think. Outside Matthews the 2016 and 2017 drafts were really bad. More recently the 2020 draft is looking really thin as well with Niemela the most promising prospect.

As I recall, people were concerned about Tkachuk’s skating. So it wasn’t a slam dunk pick and that’s the rationale canucks picked a defenseman over him.

 

[81Leafs50]

if the Leafs sign Treliving its going to be a slow decline. CGY was on an upward tragectory and he messed things up. Hired Sutter whom the players did not like and they lost Johnny hockey and Tkachuk for nothing. Treliving will kill this team.

 

[tokyoite]

oh my god.
hire patrick roy as our next HC.

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

I will keep my mind open about Treliving if we hire him, but there's few worse forms of owner meddling than hiring a GM cuz of some stupid family friendship.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Would Treliving use Sheldon Keefe as a head coach? If the answer is NO then I think a lot of Leaf fans would welcome him.

 

[KMNRB]

Overdrive was talking about how good Pietrangelo looks and how stupid St Louis was in letting him go and replacing him with Faulk and Krug. I recalled that it was quite baffling at the time when all these happened.

Wasn't Doug Armstrong the GM who pissed Pietrangelo off by trading for Faulk and showed no intention of resigning Pietrangelo until the last moment? Why would he suddenly be hailed like a savior too good to be true?

 

[TheRumble]

Would Treliving use Sheldon Keefe as a head coach? If the answer is NO then I think a lot of Leaf fans would welcome him.

Treliving's coaching hires don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence in me:

Glenn Gulutzan, has coached a total of four seasons in the NHL, missed playoffs in 3 of them.

Bill Peters - Had 1 very good year in Calgary, was a .500 coach in Carolina. He ended up getting fired due to his racist past being dug up. At the time he was fired, he was appropriately 12-12 in Calgary at that point in the season.

Geoff Ward - Was an interim coach, I think we give him a mulligan for this. Darryl Sutter was an ownership decision so it's not fair to saddle that with Treliving.

Overdrive was talking about how good Pietrangelo looks and how stupid St Louis was in letting him go and replacing him with Faulk and Krug. I recalled that it was quite baffling at the time when all these happened.

Wasn't Doug Armstrong the GM who pissed Pietrangelo off by trading for Faulk and showed no intention of resigning Pietrangelo until the last moment? Why would he suddenly be hailed like a savior too good to be true?

No, negotiations broke down long before that point. That's why he traded for Faulk and signed Krug. If you look at the salary Pietrangelo signed in Vegas it's

a) Heavy on the signing bonuses. St. Louis isn't a rich team (cash wise) they're middle of the pack in revenues and don't have the ability to pay those large lump sum signing bonuses like the Leafs or Rangers do on July 1st. Their highest paid players right now are Jordan Kyrou and Robert Thomas, both get paid $8 million spread over 26 biweekly payments. Pietrangelo on the other hand is paid $8 million on July 1st and gets $4 million in salary for the remainder of the year.

b) Vegas is a no income tax state and Pietro did not give them a discount for that at all. His cap number is $8.8. When he signed that deal he became the third highest paid dman in the league. Pietro was looking to max his earnings on his most recent deal.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Treliving's coaching hires don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence in me:

Glenn Gulutzan, has coached a total of four seasons in the NHL, missed playoffs in 3 of them.

Bill Peters - Had 1 very good year in Calgary, was a .500 coach in Carolina. He ended up getting fired due to his racist past being dug up. At the time he was fired, he was appropriately 12-12 in Calgary at that point in the season.

Geoff Ward - Was an interim coach, I think we give him a mulligan for this. Darryl Sutter was an ownership decision so it's not fair to saddle that with Treliving.

You must love Sheldon Keefe.

Overdrive was talking about how good Pietrangelo looks and how stupid St Louis was in letting him go and replacing him with Faulk and Krug. I recalled that it was quite baffling at the time when all these happened.

Wasn't Doug Armstrong the GM who pissed Pietrangelo off by trading for Faulk and showed no intention of resigning Pietrangelo until the last moment? Why would he suddenly be hailed like a savior too good to be true?

All GMs make mistakes. You could write a book on the mistakes TOR's last GM made.

 

[TheRumble]

You must love Sheldon Keefe.


All GMs make mistakes. You could write a book on the mistakes TOR's last GM made.

It's more that I think Treliving is the definition of a mid GM. He has some successes and some absolute stinkers. I don't think he's an upgrade over Dubas but he's not so bad that he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt either which he's rightfully earned but that doesn't mean we shouldn't scrutinize some of his past decisions. Hell, you guys have spent years calling for Dubas' head for less.

Keefe being good or bad has nothing to do with Gulutzan and Bill Peters as Treliving's coach hirings. They suck. I don't see where Keefe being the coach has anything to do with that.

 

[hullsy47]

You must love Sheldon Keefe.


All GMs make mistakes. You could write a book on the mistakes TOR's last GM made.

I wonder if Trev offered Tkachuk to toronto for marner ,?

 

[KeziaTML]

Please just promote Pridham or hire Tulsky...

 

[hullsy47]

Well weeger and huberdeau wasn't actually getting fleeced
I think both would have been on the preliminary Olympic list
I think Tkachuk wanted Florida because u make the marner Tkachuk deal all day long if dubss had a chance

 

[ACC1224]

It seems like management took Sutter's side after the season when it came down to Brad and his coach. They might have wanted him in the first place...but then again...Brad has a spotty record in picking coaches...so who knows.

Wasn’t Sutter fired?

Kinda funny how hard Strickland is selling Treliving to the Leafs. I wonder if he's nervous Armstrong is about to leave.

Strickland has no influence over the Leafs.

 

[Anthrax442]

It's more that I think Treliving is the definition of a mid GM. He has some successes and some absolute stinkers. I don't think he's an upgrade over Dubas but he's not so bad that he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt either which he's rightfully earned but that doesn't mean we shouldn't scrutinize some of his past decisions. Hell, you guys have spent years calling for Dubas' head for less.

Keefe being good or bad has nothing to do with Gulutzan and Bill Peters as Treliving's coach hirings. They suck. I don't see where Keefe being the coach has anything to do with that.

A lot of GMs are like that. I think mostly you can hope someone drafts well and has a few hits in the later rounds. Not all trades and signings will be blockbusters. If you look at Ken Holland for instance, outside of him getting lucky on a couple of draft picks early in his career, his record is pretty average.

 

[ACC1224]

I will keep my mind open about Treliving if we hire him, but there's few worse forms of owner meddling than hiring a GM cuz of some stupid family friendship.

Treliving chose his own path and made himself a decent career instead of riding on Billionaire Daddy’s coattails. I doubt very much he needs daddy to get him a job now.

A lot of GMs are like that. I think mostly you can hope someone drafts well and has a few hits in the later rounds. Not all trades and signings will be blockbusters. If you look at Ken Holland for instance, outside of him getting lucky on a couple of draft picks early in his career, his record is pretty average.

There isn’t a GM alive that doesn’t have some bad spots on their resume. People just tend to focus on the negative.

 

[Anthrax442]

There isn’t a GM alive that doesn’t have some bad spots on their resume. People just tend to focus on the negative.

Winning cures all. Jays fans were ready to drive Anthopolous to the airport in 2015 before he made a coupe of good trades and they went on a historic run and then they were chanting "Thank you , Alex" in stands for 2 years. All they did is make the playoffs.

 

[thusk]

Someone came up with a more extensive list of questionable contracts from Treliving.

Like i said earlier just rank all NHL city, from the best destination to the worst... calgary will be somewhere at the bottom of that list. So thats affecting contract negociation

Just take every of those contrat exemple with a florida team. Exemple Markstrom contract just with taxes, its a difference of 500K/ season of salary. You add the fact one city is pretty hot and pretty attractive city and the other one is cold and pretty boring city.. At same or similar salary where do you think player will go.

 

[hockeywiz542]

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The plan remains for Shanahan to do his due diligence in finding the next GM of the Leafs but it seems former Calgary Flames GM Brad Treliving is the focus this week. Talks between the two are expected to continue well into next week … Blues president and GM Doug Armstrong has always told those close to him that his dream job would be running the Leafs. Yet it seems unlikely he ends up in Toronto for two reasons: the three years remaining on his contract in which he has no out clause; and having to report to someone other than ownership. In St. Louis, Armstrong has total control over the his team and only answers to owner Tom Stillman …

 

[ACC1224]

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The plan remains for Shanahan to do his due diligence in finding the next GM of the Leafs but it seems former Calgary Flames GM Brad Treliving is the focus this week. Talks between the two are expected to continue well into next week … Blues president and GM Doug Armstrong has always told those close to him that his dream job would be running the Leafs. Yet it seems unlikely he ends up in Toronto for two reasons: the three years remaining on his contract in which he has no out clause; and having to report to someone other than ownership. In St. Louis, Armstrong has total control over the his team and only answers to owner Tom Stillman …

I could see him replacing Shanahan in 3 years.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Treliving is definitely not my first choice however when you hear names like Hextall, Fletcher or Chia? Treliving sounds just fine to me.

It could be worse.

 

[justashadowof]

Apparently the tanenbaums and the treliving family are really tight.

So the next Leafs' GM may turn out to have a direct pipeline to the Board after all.

 

[ToDavid]

It’s sad that the general sentiment around this guy is basically “it could be worse.”

What an exciting time to be a Leaf fan.

 

[ShaneFalco]

It’s sad that the general sentiment around this guy is basically “it could be worse.”

What an exciting time to be a Leaf fan.

It was worse under Dubas