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Leafs need to address the goaltending.

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Evilhomer said:
I think you have it backwards. Paying Nylander is going to be one of the reasons that the Leafs spend less on goaltending. But that is also the right decision. Teams who spend heavy on goaltending are missing the mark.
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Believe me, I want the Leafs to keep Nylander (we should have traded Marner when we had the chance). He's been our best player this year.

I just don't see how we make the dollars work. It would be different if Tavares' contract were up at the end of the year.
 
CuuuJooo said:
Believe me, I want the Leafs to keep Nylander (we should have traded Marner when we had the chance). He's been our best player this year.

I just don't see how we make the dollars work. It would be different if Tavares' contract were up at the end of the year.
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we have 34 million in cap space this summer there's lot's of room even with Tavares, also if were not re-signing and we let his representation know about it. Marner can still be traded if Marner wants an 8th year.
 
-DeMo- said:
we have 34 million in cap space this summer
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Just want to point out that there are currently 7 NHL forwards (and I'm being generous including Reaves), 2 defencemen and a goalie signed beyond this year. That doesn't include RFAs like Liljegren.

So yes, there is cap space opening up assuming everyone they want to walk walks, but there will also be a LOT of holes in the lineup to fill.
 
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kevsh said:
Just want to point out that there are currently 7 NHL forwards (and I'm being generous including Reaves), 2 defencemen and a goalie signed beyond this year. That doesn't include RFAs like Liljegren.

So yes, there is cap space opening up assuming everyone they want to walk walks, but there will also be a LOT of holes in the lineup to fill.
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And Teliving living doing the signings....fml.
 
kevsh said:
Just want to point out that there are currently 7 NHL forwards (and I'm being generous including Reaves), 2 defencemen and a goalie signed beyond this year. That doesn't include RFAs like Liljegren.

So yes, there is cap space opening up assuming everyone they want to walk walks, but there will also be a LOT of holes in the lineup to fill.
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yea we have 10 players signed with 34 million in space. needing another 10-13 guys re-signed. but depending on guys like Gregor/Minten/Cowen/Holmberg/Robertson/Steeves/Abruzzese and maybe Niemela you probably have 2-3 of these guys as well as a PTO making the team as a fourth liner ala Gregor/ZAR have for the past couple of years and you can probably count 3-5 of those players as million or less players.

the way I see this summer is 10 million for Nylander 12 million for 2 Dmen and then another 12 million to round out the roster needing 7-10 guys with the next biggest need being a 3rd line center. that seems like alot of money depending on a couple of things.
 
Part of it is the defence and overall defensive play, but we've needed to address the goaltending ever since we gave Rask away for virtually nothing.
 
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-DeMo- said:
yea we have 10 players signed with 34 million in space. needing another 10-13 guys re-signed. but depending on guys like Gregor/Minten/Cowen/Holmberg/Robertson/Steeves/Abruzzese and maybe Niemela you probably have 2-3 of these guys as well as a PTO making the team as a fourth liner ala Gregor/ZAR have for the past couple of years and you can probably count 3-5 of those players as million or less players.

the way I see this summer is 10 million for Nylander 12 million for 2 Dmen and then another 12 million to round out the roster needing 7-10 guys with the next biggest need being a 3rd line center. that seems like alot of money depending on a couple of things.
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You think the Maple Leafs regularly icing up to five players that are making under a million is a good idea for assembling a championship calibre roster?
 
FerrisRox said:
You think the Maple Leafs regularly icing up to five players that are making under a million is a good idea for assembling a championship calibre roster?
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Get a 4th line under 3M+ knies and woll on ELC... yes im pretty fine with it for 1 season considerating jt contract will be over after next one anc create cap space
 
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Smif said:
Rielly & Brodie combined +18
The rest of the D-core combined -17

It's clear what positions we should be addressing first imo.
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4th line struggles, defensive injuries we couldn’t really afford to have, and shakey goaltending all has contributed to our poor goals against

kevsh said:
Just want to point out that there are currently 7 NHL forwards (and I'm being generous including Reaves), 2 defencemen and a goalie signed beyond this year. That doesn't include RFAs like Liljegren.

So yes, there is cap space opening up assuming everyone they want to walk walks, but there will also be a LOT of holes in the lineup to fill.
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It’ll definitely be a tight season with both Matthews and Nylander’s extensions on the books, but thankfully just one year before JT should drop significantly or move on
 
Sypher04 said:
It’ll definitely be a tight season with both Matthews and Nylander’s extensions on the books, but thankfully just one year before JT should drop significantly or move on
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Or Nylander will be playing in Vegas, and we'll have no issues at all. ;)
 
Leafs are 21st in the league in sv% - 28th in expected goals against (5on5). I would say team defence is a much bigger concern. Not saying the goaltending is amazing.

And if you watch the games, Samsonov and Woll aren't so bad that it's the end of the world. They let in a couple stinkers, but generally keep the Leafs in the game. Again, not great by any means.

You can't just look at one game save % and talk about doom and gloom.
 
Smif said:
Rielly & Brodie combined +18
The rest of the D-core combined -17

It's clear what positions we should be addressing first imo.
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The D is extremely thin no doubt.

Zadorov is a start but we could definitely use a quality add.
 
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Keep in mind, even if we just eliminate these two, our team D looks a lot better. Once we get healthy, and don't see these guys again, we will know better.

This was a couple of games ago.....
 
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Woll is pretty good, but still a rookie, hopefully Samsonov will get his consistency back and we'll be fine.
 
JWoll is a rock solid goalie but stupid Keefe has to let him go on a run to get his confidence. It has nothing to do with save%. Bad defence can mess with a goalies confidence.
 
Maybe if we ask nicely other GMs will help us out. I'm sure that's why their got their jobs.

Here's my proposal to address the goaltending (and defense too)

To TML: Shesterkin (RT 50% NYR, 25% Avs), Makar (RT 50% Avs, 25% NYR)
To NY: Samsonov no RT
To Avs: Klingberg no RT, Reaves no RT
 
FerrisRox said:
You think the Maple Leafs regularly icing up to five players that are making under a million is a good idea for assembling a championship calibre roster?
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Boston’s 2LW, 3LW, and entire 4th line make 1mil or less, 3C as well if you want to count Poitras’s ELC. 2 of their D make under 1mil.

Vegas’ 2C, 3RW, 3LW, make 1mil or less, their 4th line wings make 1.4 and one D makes under a mil.

Rangers have 7/12 forward above 1mil and 3/6 D above 1mil.

Seems like it’s a good idea to do what successful teams do no? Maybe we can trade them Kampf, Reaves, and Klingberg for their 4th liners/bottom pair D so they can get deeper by spending more.
 
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Recipe Unlimited said:
Leafs are 21st in the league in sv% - 28th in expected goals against (5on5). I would say team defence is a much bigger concern. Not saying the goaltending is amazing.

And if you watch the games, Samsonov and Woll aren't so bad that it's the end of the world. They let in a couple stinkers, but generally keep the Leafs in the game. Again, not great by any means.

You can't just look at one game save % and talk about doom and gloom.
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I'm not looking at 1 game, I'm looking at the entire season as a whole 870 for Samsonov is not a defense issue because 870 is NEVER a defense issue you can't allow 13% of the shots you face to beat you.

You say they let in a couple stinkers, yes they do and It's almost EVERY night there is at least 1 and many times 2 or more. where you go "that can't go in"

Case in point against Vancouver 1st, and 4th goals on Woll.

1st goal can't go in, and the 4th goal goes in because Woll is a rebound machine he has VERY poor rebound control.

Now to be fair I do expect some improvement over the next 3 games, because you have Detroit and Minnesota both on the 2nd half of a back to back, and then you have a fairly beat up Chicago team.

It's after that where I wonder if they can make and sustain progress
 
Da Cool Rula said:
JWoll is a rock solid goalie but stupid Keefe has to let him go on a run to get his confidence. It has nothing to do with save%. Bad defence can mess with a goalies confidence.
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The guy played 20 NHL, its just normal to see a coach protecting his young goalie because its not the same thing working as back up and playing with the pressure of being #1
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
I'm not looking at 1 game, I'm looking at the entire season as a whole 870 for Samsonov is not a defense issue because 870 is NEVER a defense issue you can't allow 13% of the shots you face to beat you.

You say they let in a couple stinkers, yes they do and It's almost EVERY night there is at least 1 and many times 2 or more. where you go "that can't go in"

Case in point against Vancouver 1st, and 4th goals on Woll.

1st goal can't go in, and the 4th goal goes in because Woll is a rebound machine he has VERY poor rebound control.

Now to be fair I do expect some improvement over the next 3 games, because you have Detroit and Minnesota both on the 2nd half of a back to back, and then you have a fairly beat up Chicago team.

It's after that where I wonder if they can make and sustain progress
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If your d playing trash, your goalie will allow more goal, that will affect his confidence so he will let more goal goes in and at the end having a bad sv % but everything starting with bad D

In the other end, playing a great defensive game in front of you giving you confidence so you will make more save and your stats will raise

# Swayman/Ulmark or Hill/Thompson switch those tandem for samsonov and Woll, they would have bad stats too.
 
thusk said:
The guy played 20 NHL, its just normal to see a coach protecting his young goalie because its not the same thing working as back up and playing with the pressure of being #1


If your d playing trash, your goalie will allow more goal, that will affect his confidence so he will let more goal goes in and at the end having a bad sv % but everything starting with bad D

In the other end, playing a great defensive game in front of you giving you confidence so you will make more save and your stats will raise

# Swayman/Ulmark or Hill/Thompson switch those tandem for samsonov and Woll, they would have bad stats too.
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So It's NEVER the goalies fault.

Don't kiss the goalies ass.
 
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