Leafs need to address the goaltending.

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You do understand that we are very low on assets to make very few trades and you want to upgrade in goal ( which to me we dont have to ) .
Then we have nothing left for defense , which will fix alot of our goaltending issues less shot on goal.
I am not trading Woll Knies Cowen Minten or Grebyonkin 5 quality players on ELC contracts.

So we have a 1st this yr no 2nd rd pk
Next yr no 1st or 2nd

You make it sound like the cupboards are completely bare and that's simply not true.

You say we don't need to upgrade the goaltending, I don't know what world of denial you are living in but all you have to do is look at Samsonov numbers to know that's not true.

3.51 GAA 878 save%.


878 is not a defense issue.

878 isn't even a goaltending issue.

878 is BEYOND goaltending issue.

878 is unuseable.

Goals 3 and 5 were pathetic.

The only difference between Samsonov and Jack Campbel is one is American, the other is Russian.

Otherwise Samsonov is just as bad a goalie as Campbell was if not worse.
 
Samsonov blows so hard he could be an escort consultant at this point.
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You make it sound like the cupboards are completely bare and that's simply not true.

You say we don't need to upgrade the goaltending, I don't know what world of denial you are living in but all you have to do is look at Samsonov numbers to know that's not true.

3.51 GAA 878 save%.


878 is not a defense issue.

878 isn't even a goaltending issue.

878 is BEYOND goaltending issue.

878 is unuseable.

Goals 3 and 5 were pathetic.

The only difference between Samsonov and Jack Campbel is one is American, the other is Russian.

Otherwise Samsonov is just as bad a goalie as Campbell was if not worse.
Iam talking about Woll
You are always bringing up Woll's name
You are wanting to use assets on someone who is no better.
Use those assets on defence..
 
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Mackenzie Blackwood!!!!
2.35 mil for 2yrs

Nj .892
Nj .893
Sj .900

No better than Jones
.877 cap hit

.900
.887
.902

Next yr
Talbot UFA .927 save %
2.5 mil * 2 yrs
Woll

In 2 yrs
Woll
Hildeby
 
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While Samsonov has struggled this season, a big part of that SV% is defense as well. A league average goalie would have an 0.887 SV% facing what Samsonov has. That's why it's important to use better metrics than just SV%.
Like any metric, it's accuracy varies based on sample size. Using it to analyze a single game carries little weight, but as the games pile up they can get pretty damning.

As for our defense, we have allowed an average of 32.3 shots against per game this season. That's identical to what the Bruins have allowed. Should their defense be questioned too?
 
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Like any metric, it's accuracy varies based on sample size. Using it to analyze a single game carries little weight, but as the games pile up they can get pretty damning.

As for our defense, we have allowed an average of 32.3 shots against per game this season. That's identical to what the Bruins have allowed. Should their defense be questioned too?
Maybe the don't give up alot of high danger shot
 
Like any metric, it's accuracy varies based on sample size. Using it to analyze a single game carries little weight, but as the games pile up they can get pretty damning.
As for our defense, we have allowed an average of 32.3 shots against per game this season. That's identical to what the Bruins have allowed. Should their defense be questioned too?
Even with bigger sample sizes, SV% can be misleading. Defense isn't just the quantity of shots you allow; it's also the quality of shots you allow.
You actually highlighted a good example of this. Both Toronto and Boston have allowed identical shots against per game, but Boston on average allows lesser quality shots than Toronto, which allows Boston to be mid-tier defensively despite being closer to the bottom of the league in shots against.
And then Boston also has some of the best goaltending in the league.
 
Even with bigger sample sizes, SV% can be misleading. Defense isn't just the quantity of shots you allow; it's also the quality of shots you allow.
You actually highlighted a good example of this. Both Toronto and Boston have allowed identical shots against per game, but Boston on average allows lesser quality shots than Toronto, which allows Boston to be mid-tier defensively despite being closer to the bottom of the league in shots against.
And then Boston also has some of the best goaltending in the league.
Therein lies the difference.

I might add that this has been a constant theme in the Boston vs Toronto comparison for years. The Bruins obviously place more value on goaltending, and the results verify that emphasis.
 
Anything below 900 is a goalie issue.
That kind of hardline rule just doesn't hold up. You can be below 0.900 and performing above average, and you can be above 0.900 and performing below average.
Therein lies the difference.
It's not the only difference though. They also allow less quality per shot.
The Bruins obviously place more value on goaltending
I mean, not really. They made a mid-tier goalie signing, and drafted 4 goalies in the last 11 years. They just had that UFA goalie explode in year 2 of his deal, and a 4th round draft pick 6 years ago turned out really well and was ready at the same time.
 
Samsonov looked so good last season. It's a shame he's turned into a sieve. Ever since Marchand broke his ankles in the shootout and put him on the shelf for a bit he's never been the same. I'm not sure if that's the reason he fell off but I always saw that injury as when he started to decline.
 
My problem with high danger shots vs raw shot totals is the raw numbers aren't in dispute, whereas the high danger ones are the raw stats "massaged" by people to verify their own bias.
I know we give up alot of high danger shots.
The last game that woll played there were 8 to 10 high danger shot maybe more.
 
From Craig Button today on X, with the title, Solve the defense.
 

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From Craig Button today on X, with the title, Solve the defense.
The blue highlighted numbers on top solve it, unless you're a dinosaur like Button who mistakenly believes that defensive zone specialist defensemen who clear the crease are more valuable than ones who can regain possession and exit the zone.
 
The blue highlighted numbers on top solve it, unless you're a dinosaur like Button who mistakenly believes that defensive zone specialist defensemen who clear the crease are more valuable than ones who can regain possession and exit the zone.
They may not be but you need a mix and we do not have enough. Pretty sure Tre agrees and why he was in on Zadorov and there is lots of smoke around Tanev.
 
As soon as Woll is healthy put Samsonov on waivers.If he clears waivers fine hope he gets is head on straight playing for the Marlins. Have Jones and Woll rotate starts and if an upgrade at trade deadline materializes fine if not hope Woll/Jones tandem can be solid and give the Leafs a chance every night.
 
They may not be but you need a mix and we do not have enough. Pretty sure Tre agrees and why he was in on Zadorov and there is lots of smoke around Tanev.

Exactly, and you need a commitment to team D. It’s not just the D men, but the forwards too. You don’t blow the zone early, you cover for pinching D, you work hard in the D zone.

Our commitment to D has been atrocious, and often our effort overall has been unacceptable. There just isn’t a consistent commitment to excellence. Sure, we can come back down from 5, when they turn it on and start playing…. But the problem is a lack of effort until we turn it on.

Every addition this year, has been to improve the offense, with defensively weak players, so this result isn’t shocking, particularly when you match it with our inconsistent effort players we already had.

We are going to require the addition of some defensively strong players, and more importantly, a consistent commitment to team D, and a consistent effort. Ultimately though, it doesn’t matter who we add, or subtract, until our team embraces playing for excellence at both ends of the rink, for 60 minutes a game.

Teams built around a strong team D, can make an average goalie look great, and teams with very weak team D, can make an average goalie look terrible.

I’m not saying Samsonov has been good, or acceptable, I’m saying it doesn’t matter who you swap him for, with the way our team plays. It’s attempting to put a bandaid on a broken limb.

Fix the cause of the problem, not the side effects.
 
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How can he be number 1 when he's probably going to play less than 40 games?

If Woll wants to prove he's the guy he needs to stay healthy.



Nope 24th, 25th and 26th that's it.
Well either way we don't need to rush a bad trade. Jones was brought in superficially for this kind of situation
 
I don't care how many games he plays just so long as he plays well in the ones that count

Plenty of time for him to come back and retake the starters job


the problem is how he will be when he will come back. its pretty hard for a goalie to come back from an ankle injury. get back Woll at 80-85% of his ability will not be enough
 
2.35 mil for 2yrs

Nj .892
Nj .893
Sj .900

No better than Jones
.877 cap hit

.900
.887
.902

Next yr
Talbot UFA .927 save %
2.5 mil * 2 yrs
Woll

In 2 yrs
Woll
Hildeby
You guys all love dubas and the numbers

Watch him play this year on a crappy team and get back to me
 

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