Leafs need to address the goaltending.

[hullsy47]

He’s been amazing

He stops shots nhl goalies should stop.
Everything thing else is gravy .
Samaonov doesn't stop the fundamentally simple shots lately
Could be another head case

 

[TMLAM34]

Might have found a cheap solid backup goaltender in Jones. Could make trading Samsonov an option and getting rid of his 3.5 million salary would be huge.

 

[fahad203]

What happens when Woll comes back? Does Jones go on waivers?

 

[TMLAM34]

What happens when Woll comes back? Does Jones go on waivers?

If Jones continues to provide solid backup goaltending, I’d move Samsonov. There’s a few teams currently looking for goaltenders. LA being one of them, Grundstrom and a pick would do IMO.

 

[fancy lad]

What happens when Woll comes back? Does Jones go on waivers?

Uhhh given that he’s better than our supposed 1b (who is a trainwreck this year) I’d say NO.

 

[ponder]

If Jones continues to provide solid backup goaltending, I’d move Samsonov. There’s a few teams currently looking for goaltenders. LA being one of them, Grundstrom and a pick would do IMO.

With the way Sammy has been playing, we aren’t getting positive value for him - even if it’s just a 1 year deal, he’s still playing at a #3 goalie level and making $3.55 mil. It’d be more like Sammy, 50% retained, for a 7th.

 

[Buds17]

What happens when Woll comes back? Does Jones go on waivers?

We can only hope for this to be anything to worry about by that time. The same essentially applies for the newfound depth on the blueline,

 

[TMLAM34]

With the way Sammy has been playing, we aren’t getting positive value for him - even if it’s just a 1 year deal, he’s still playing at a #3 goalie level and making $3.55 mil. It’d be more like Sammy, 50% retained, for a 7th.

Samsonov is also coming off a really good year. I’m sure a team would give him a shot for a career fourth line player.

I can honestly see Samsonov returning to at least a 90 save percentage in a smaller market. I think the Toronto pressure is what’s killing him right now.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

I’m sure we can trade him and get something

Holland loves his Leafs lol.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Uhhh given that he’s better than our supposed 1b (who is a trainwreck this year) I’d say NO.

Agreed. That was a sweet 38 save shutout last night and Sammy's been so bad. I've seen enough to say move Sammy now.

With the way Sammy has been playing, we aren’t getting positive value for him - even if it’s just a 1 year deal, he’s still playing at a #3 goalie level and making $3.55 mil. It’d be more like Sammy, 50% retained, for a 7th.

This does seem more realistic than getting some good assets. Might be able to do a bit better than that but even if this is the best we can do, it's worth doing IMO.

 

[34]

Jones as been solid in his 6 periods but surely you aren't sold on him after 6 periods

Over Samsonov, yes.

 

[William Hylander]

The defense isn't good, but it doesn't excuse the fact that Samsonov is terrible either way.

 

[Evilhomer]

I get the Samsonov hate, but when Woll comes back Jones will be sent down, and he will probably clear waivers. Management is not going to choose 10 games of Jones over the larger body of Samsonov's work.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I get the Samsonov hate, but when Woll comes back Jones will be sent down, and he will probably clear waivers. Management is not going to choose 10 games of Jones over the larger body of Samsonov's work.

Don't be too sure, that larger body of work this season has been pretty bad.

 

[Evilhomer]

Don't be too sure, that larger body of work this season has been pretty bad.

It's been poor games mixed with good games, against the backdrop of an overall very good season last year. Jones looking fine in a 7 goal blowout isn't going to push management off the guy who is simply the better goalie overall (Samsonov). I think the more fair question is whether management is comfortable with the idea of resting its Cup chase on the shoulders of a rookie goalie.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

What happens when Woll comes back? Does Jones go on waivers?

Jones is a better goalie than Samsonov. If they go with Sammy when Woll comes back, they're fools.

 

[Gary Nylund]

It's been poor games mixed with good games, against the backdrop of an overall very good season last year. Jones looking fine in a 7 goal blowout isn't going to push management off the guy who is simply the better goalie overall (Samsonov). I think the more fair question is whether management is comfortable with the idea of resting its Cup chase on the shoulders of a rookie goalie.

Sammy's been so bad, it's not clear he's the better goalie. Our cup hopes rest with Woll regardless, it's just a question of who's going to play a bunch of games between now and when the playoffs start.

 

[Sypher04]

Samsonov has had a really rough season so far and I definitely think there is an argument (if Jones results hold up over a longer sample) that finding a way out of Sammy’s deal before the deadline and redistributing that cap is in our best interest. He’s not gonna be back next year anyway

 

[Evilhomer]

Sammy's been so bad, it's not clear he's the better goalie. Our cup hopes rest with Woll regardless, it's just a question of who's going to play a bunch of games between now and when the playoffs start.

And I imagine this is the issue that concerns management the most. Not to say it can't be done, because Aidin Hill was hardly a veteran when he won last season, but it's a big ask to put on a rookie goalie.

 

[Sypher04]

With the way Sammy has been playing, we aren’t getting positive value for him - even if it’s just a 1 year deal, he’s still playing at a #3 goalie level and making $3.55 mil. It’d be more like Sammy, 50% retained, for a 7th.

I can’t see any scenario where we hold 50% of his contract. I think we sooner find a way to LTIR him than do that lol

 

[Gary Nylund]

And I imagine this is the issue that concerns management the most. Not to say it can't be done, because Aidin Hill was hardly a veteran when he won last season, but it's a big ask to put on a rookie goalie.

There are a few areas of concern, not sure if Woll is what I'd be "most" worried about.

I can’t see any scenario where we hold 50% of his contract. I think we sooner find a way to LTIR him than do that lol

Why not? Don't we have cap space to spare as it is?

 

[Machinae]

Believe it or not the Leafs are in a better spot than most teams. 2 solid Gs backing up their struggling projected starter.. Could be worse, could be Carolina or Edmonton who have struggling starters and 0 in the pipeline and no hope.

Goalie market is absolutely bonkers too, there is nothing out there that would be an upgrade. If there was, multiple contenders need better goaltending. You pretty much can't trade your way out of a mess. Could do so much worse than Woll/Samsonov/Jones. Sooooo much worse.

 

[Evilhomer]

There are a few areas of concern, not sure if Woll is what I'd be "most" worried about.


Why not? Don't we have cap space to spare as it is?

Other than Binnington, name the last rookie goalie to win a cup as the starter? It's a very uncommon occurrence. Does this management team want to take that risk?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Over Samsonov, yes.

I was talking about a general sense.

Of course you trust him over Samsonov at this point that goes without saying, but in the grand schem of things you can't be sold on Jones after 6 periods.

 

[arso40]

If Jones continues to provide solid backup goaltending, I’d move Samsonov. There’s a few teams currently looking for goaltenders. LA being one of them, Grundstrom and a pick would do IMO.

Trust him more than Sammy

I would be comfortable with
Woll
Jones

Except for Boston maybe the Rangers every other team is screwed if there stater goes down

TB if Vasi goes down they are screwd
Islanders Valamov
LA Talbot
Vegas Hill
Van Demko
Win Hellebuyck

There backup goaltenders are good for a small stretch


I don't have a clue


Tanev

Hell yeah get our pic bac from la and he’d be the perfect fit for kampf