Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 7-3

[34]

That helps but they don’t even have a number 1 D man right now. Rielly is done.

I agree, and to think the 8 year contract begins next season for Him!

 

[authentic]

At least I got to meet with Ray Ferraro, Chris Johnston, Bryan Hayes and Joe Bowen tonight.

They were all super nice and friendly, especially Joe. What a nice guy. Hearing that laugh in person was such a cool moment.

Brian Burke was also in the building but I got to be honest I was afraid to introduce myself to him lol.

You should've asked him if our truculence was up to par

 

[34]

Lil is playing way worse D than Holl. How exactly does this help us?

Anything Has to be better than tonight. A shake up would probably help at this point.

 

[Stephen]

Weird to me people keep ripping on Matthews and Marner. They were fine. Obviously we want more from them, but they were dominant at times, and really weren't an issue. I imagine theyll look better with more consistent ice time. On the other hand, the entire defense has looked like complete dogshit, faltering the moment they've seen a semblance of pressure, giving away the puck like crazy. Giordano and Holl were especially bad, and I don't think Schenn playing is wise even if his numbers were fine. Not to mention the entire bottom-6 basically did nothing positive all game. I'll give Sammy a pass because most of the goals weren't overly bad besides the Point one at 0.1, but we need some saves if we want to win the series, and he needs to be better.

Not singling out this post, but this sentiment makes me a little sad. Matthews and Marner were not terrible, but the stage has been set for them to take over a series and go full throttle for a long time now and we've been waiting a full calendar year for their next big chance and they were ok. Is that enough?

Can't disagree with the rest of your comments, though.

 

[Stephen]

At least I got to meet with Ray Ferraro, Chris Johnston, Bryan Hayes and Joe Bowen tonight.

They were all super nice and friendly, especially Joe. What a nice guy. Hearing that laugh in person was such a cool moment.

Brian Burke was also in the building but I got to be honest I was afraid to introduce myself to him lol.

Sports radio is going to be elite tomorrow.

 

[RoadWarrior]

I agree, and to think the 8 year contract begins next season for Him
they can stick him on the third pairing then buy him out after a couple of years.

I agree, and to think the 8 year contract begins next season for Him!

they can stick him on the third pairing then buy him out after a couple of years.

 

[ACC1224]

Not going to worry until after game two.
They were shit though.

Only bright side was I wasn’t in the building.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

The carbon taxes have no impact on them. Leafs are making our groceries even more expensive burning those tapes

You can tell me, you, and Cleetus clearly have similar views on many things lol

 

[RunItBackAgain]

Team needs to be better plain and simple. No line tinkering or inserting 3GP Knies or Lilly over Holl will change that fact. If we play like we can we win. Everyone played like trash.

HM to McCabe for maybe being the piece of trash not yet in the trash can that game.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Not going to worry until after game two.
They were shit though.

Only bright side was I wasn’t in the building.

wake me up when the rebuild starts.

 

[34]

they can stick him on the third pairing then buy him out after a couple of years.

That sucks man. Dubas has put them in a tough spot with that contract.

 

[authentic]

Anything Has to be better than tonight. A shake up would probably help at this point.

Bring in Knies and Lily. More skill, more goals. Clearly we're not allowed to hit them or shove them around anyway.

 

[RoadWarrior]

That sucks man. Dubas has put them in a tough spot with that contract.

the Rielly and Tavares contracts are an albatross.
at least they can get a haul trading Matthews and Marner.

 

[PromisedLand]

wow. he might even be worse than matthews and marner.

there is no confusion there man. he "IS" worse than everyone we have on the roster

 

[wingman75]

If we’re lucky the biggest sports broadcaster in the USA calling out tonight’s shitshow will have the NHL not assign Wes to our games again.

Nah, knowing this league they double-down. Wes + Skilletor game 4 guaranteed!

 

[keonsbitterness]

I agree, and to think the 8 year contract begins next season for Him!

22-23 is/was year one.

 

[34]

the Rielly and Tavares contracts are an albatross.
at least they can get a haul trading Matthews and Marner.

Tavares has to go sure, I like the guy but man is he ever dead weight now.

 

[robertmac43]

I forgot how losing these games just ruins my mood. Not pumped for the long day that will be tomorrow.

 

[34]

Bring in Knies and Lily. More skill, more goals. Clearly we're not allowed to hit them or shove them around anyway.

for sure, need to shake things up. Send a message.

 

[Fogelhund]

One game, and the board melts down. Epic.

Tampa lost the first game of the series 5-0 last year.

 

[pcruz]

Not singling out this post, but this sentiment makes me a little sad. Matthews and Marner were not terrible, but the stage has been set for them to take over a series and go full throttle for a long time now and we've been waiting a full calendar year for their next big chance and they were ok. Is that enough?

Can't disagree with the rest of your comments, though.

I disagree that they were "ok".

The 2 players were on the ice for all 3 goals for.
They played 13 minutes of even strength all night long.
Matthews wasn't on the ice for a goal against and I don't remember if Marner was on for more than 1 on the power play.

MoneyPuck.com

Real Time Hockey Win Probabilities In Game

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Matthews and Marner were by a huge margin the 2 best even strength players on the ice tonight by whatever stats Moneypuck tracks.

It does follow what I saw as well - that line was almost always much better than the opposing line while on the ice.

Generally speaking, if you have a line of players who are that dominant at even strength, you should play them more at even strength.

 

[robertmac43]

One game, and the board melts down. Epic.

It wouldn't be the Leafs without that.

 

[1specter]

Weird to me people keep ripping on Matthews and Marner. They were fine. Obviously we want more from them, but they were dominant at times, and really weren't an issue. I imagine theyll look better with more consistent ice time. On the other hand, the entire defense has looked like complete dogshit, faltering the moment they've seen a semblance of pressure, giving away the puck like crazy. Giordano and Holl were especially bad, and I don't think Schenn playing is wise even if his numbers were fine. Not to mention the entire bottom-6 basically did nothing positive all game. I'll give Sammy a pass because most of the goals weren't overly bad besides the Point one at 0.1, but we need some saves if we want to win the series, and he needs to be better.

The only three positives I'll take out of this:
1. Tampa's top line was complete, utter dogshit at 5v5, and they won't be getting that much PP time the rest of the series combined.
2. We'll have different refs next game.
3. William Nylander is really good at playoff hockey, and he showed up again.

IMO Marner had a bad game despite what fancy stats may say. He struggled to make clean passes that connected and often folded under pressure with poor passes or unnecessary fancy plays that quickly came back the other way. I'm a stats guy but I find the playoffs are a different beast where the interference and pace ramps up and the underlying numbers decouple from the live events happening on the ice.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Wha ?

 

[Superstar]

One game, and the board melts down. Epic.

Tampa lost the first game of the series 5-0 last year.

But Leafs aren't Tampa, I think the leash is alot shorter...it's going to be an uphill battle fighting Tampa and the refs.