Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5 -1

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TopCheeseShotta

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Whoa.. cool out yall.

JT was a threat net front getting hammered all night long.. had more quality chances in the most difficult area than anyone. I know u got your pitchforks out and 11 mill and everybody needs somebody to blame, but.. Jus' cool n'man..!!!

Matty was all shakes and spits and bobbles per usual, so was Mitch and so was my boy Sammy unfortunately... But, if you're looking for someone to bark at, holy crap was McCabe terrible. Dude had no idea what he was doing out there all night. I believe his heart's in the right place, but his head certainly wasn't. Ditto for Domi and Bert. Don't go overboard and play right into the B's plans.

Yall might also forget - playoffs are wild.. anything can and does happen. This city needs yall to forget the past and help these Boyz get the marbles out of their heads. Game 2 win and its 1-1
.. game 2 loss and we need to win 2 in TO.. simple tingz

chill my babiez!!
 

Lightsol

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Don't wanna take credit but this was a good point too


I suspect when the player minutes come out we'll find that Calle lead the Leafs in ice time among forwards. It seemed like Keefe massively overplayed that third line, double shifted Calle (as mentioned), AND used him on both PK1 and PP1...

And my only reaction to that is "WHAT THE f***, KEEFE?"
 

MilkofthePoppy

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Whoa.. cool out yall.

JT was a threat net front getting hammered all night long.. had more quality chances in the most difficult area than anyone. I know u got your pitchforks out and 11 mill and everybody needs somebody to blame, but.. Jus' cool n'man..!!!

Matty was all shakes and spits and bobbles per usual, so was Mitch and so was my boy Sammy unfortunately... But, if you're looking for someone to bark at, holy crap was McCabe terrible. Dude had no idea what he was doing out there all night. I believe his heart's in the right place, but his head certainly wasn't. Ditto for Domi and Bert. Don't go overboard and play right into the B's plans.

Yall might also forget - playoffs are wild.. anything can and does happen. This city needs yall to forget the past and help these Boyz get the marbles out of their heads. Game 2 win and its 1-1
.. game 2 loss and we need to win 2 in TO.. simple tingz

chill my babiez!!

Playoffs are unpredictable for the other 31 teams. For the Maple Leafs it is business as usual. Failure to start on time, chasing the game, ultimately blown out. It has been close to a decade with this core. These players still haven't learned. The most hilarious thing is that our freshly signed 11.5 million dollar superstar got injured in bed. If that doesn't sum up the loser state of this franchise I don't know what else does.
 

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Thing is, the Leafs' problem isn't lacking cap space to pay a goalie; even with the cap crunch, they could pull it off. The issue is the lack of availability of a goalie good enough to win, and the failure of the org to develop one... Like, at all.

Nonsense. Boston signed Linus Ullmark the year we decided to screw around with Petr Mrazek. Goalies like Markstrom and Saros were supposedly available at points this season. The position is only a weakness because it was neglected as a moneypuck position because Leafs management didn't understand and prioritize goaltending in the past. Let's see what happens moving forward.
 

Lightsol

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Failure to start on time
Uh, that's not even close to what happened... For f***'s sake, it took Boston three minutes to register a shot...

The Leafs came out hard and ready to play... Except Sammy. And the team seemed to deflate after the penalty parade made a 2-0 game into a 4-0 game...
 
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MilkofthePoppy

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Uh, that's not even close to what happened... For f***'s sake, it took Boston three minutes to register a shot...

The Leafs came out hard and ready to play... Except Sammy. And the team seemed to deflate after the penalty parade made a 2-0 game into a 4-0 game...

Boston scored on their first shot within the first 5 minutes of the game.
 

Lightsol

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Nonsense. Boston signed Linus Ullmark the year we decided to screw around with Petr Mrazek. Goalies like Markstrom and Saros were supposedly available at points this season. The position is only a weakness because it was neglected as a moneypuck position because Leafs management didn't understand and prioritize goaltending in the past. Let's see what happens moving forward.
And when Boston signed Ullmark there were HUGE questions about how smart a move that was, considering Ullmark's numbers before then were terrible. Boston was gambling on Ullmark's numbers being ruined by a terrible Buffalo team, but they got lucky.

Also, the Leafs weren't looking for an Ullmark at the time; they liked how Campbell looked in the short season and were looking for a 1-A to pair with him. I would imagine they would have went stronger after some of the higher ranked starters if they knew then that Campbell would fall apart.
 
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I know TOR out shot them, but out of curiosity, what were the scoring chances, high danger chances etc? Anyone have the stats?

I'm not suggesting TOR was good. It's more that if they beat BOS in things like XGF% and slot chances in addition to basic shots on goal, then f***ing LOL at BOS. Imagine if they were playing a team like FLA instead... LMAO.
 
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Stephen

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And when Boston signed Ullmark there were HUGE questions about how smart a move that was, considering Ullmark's numbers before then were terrible. Boston was gambling on Ullmark's numbers being ruined by a terrible Buffalo team, but they got lucky.

Also, the Leafs weren't looking for an Ullmark at the time; they liked how Campbell looked in the short season and were looking for a 1-A to pair with him. I would imagine they would have went stronger after some of the higher ranked starters if they knew then that Campbell would fall apart.

We're going to go around and around in a circles here, so let's just agree to disagree.
 

Cypruss

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It was over the minute they let the kids run the daycare.

Many of us screamed about it for years.
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This was the moment for me.....i knew.
 

Lightsol

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We're going to go around and around in a circles here, so let's just agree to disagree.
I'm saying, it's easy in hindsight to say "They should have signed Ullmark instead of Mrazek", but that's only because we have the benefit of hindsight. If you want to argue they should have gone after another tandem goalie instead of Mrazek, I'll agree, but the fact is they didn't think they needed to find a full starter, because they thought that Campbell would give them 40 games. And the fact that we can say that was dumb is also from the benefit of hindsight, because we know Campbell would blow up mentally within the next two years and the Leafs would suddenly need a true starter.
 

Stephen

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I'm saying, it's easy in hindsight to say "They should have signed Ullmark instead of Mrazek", but that's only because we have the benefit of hindsight. If you want to argue they should have gone after another tandem goalie instead of Mrazek, I'll agree, but the fact is they didn't think they needed to find a full starter, because they thought that Campbell would give them 40 games. And the fact that we can say that was dumb is also from the benefit of hindsight, because we know Campbell would blow up mentally within the next two years and the Leafs would suddenly need a true starter.

Just stop it man. The previous regime had championship aspirations and spent their money on Murray, Campbell, Mrazek and Samsonov and we're just working through those decisions. If you think things couldn't have been managed better and we can't upgrade the position in the future, we'll just agree to disagree.
 

JamieG19

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They're pointing fingers at Tavares because the reason that line was mostly useless was his inability to do much of anything. Marner and Knies generated scoring chances, Tavares mostly coughed the puck up.

And Nylander's having the finger pointed at him because if he was hurt, he probably shouldn't have played a few days ago. You know, in the irrelevant back-to-back Florida trip?
I’ll just say the obvious…. You realize players can start a game healthy and then get hurt during the game? You know that right?? And you know players can get hurt without it being obvious to fans (ie not being carried off on a stretcher) . I love how the possibility of him being injured during the course of the final game with TB does not even cross your mind. Or that he could have been hurt during a practice.
 

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Don't wanna take credit but this was a good point too



Reaves' best play all night was him not making a hit, which led to a goal... his worst play of the night was making a hit, which led to a goal against.

Also, whoever wrote this is an idiot and doesn't realize that Jarnkrok was being used for defensive zone draws on that line.
 
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Divine

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I know TOR out shot them, but out of curiosity, what were the scoring chances, high danger chances etc? Anyone have the stats?

I'm not suggesting TOR was good. It's more that if they beat BOS in things like XGF% and slot chances in addition to basic shots on goal, then f***ing LOL at BOS. Imagine if they were playing a team like FLA instead... LMAO.

Leafs led all scoring chances. Every site has the Leafs leading significantly in every category except goaltending.

Natural Stat Trick

Even strength:
Scoring chances: 32-15 Toronto
High danger scoring chances: 16-6 Toronto
Corsi: 53-31 Toronto
Fenwick: 43-20 Toronto

All Situations:
Scoring chances: 39-21 Toronto
High danger scoring chances: 21-8 Toronto
Expected goals: 4.74 - 3.64 Toronto (empty net goal pumped Boston's expected goals quite a bit here)
 

Maxmann

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Folks there should be no surprise here. Do you all forget how rotten samsonov was in last year playoffs ? Absolutely brutal. Then to start this season how bad he was ? Then last few games of the year 11 goals against on 25 shots ? We bailed on Freddy Anderson for way way less. Anderson got let go over single bad goals. How and why we still using samsonov is insane. Samsonov can’t track the puck which is why so many goals against happen. He doesn’t battle. He looks drunk on the plays. He’s mentally not able to play. How and why leaf nation thinks this year will be different ? And then add in Keefe. Bad coaching and brutal brutal goaltending we stand zero chances. Coach and samsonov is why we are embarrassed over and over. Look at Boston ask them how tonight felt having stable players quality goal tending ? Boston didn’t really play well but thanks to swayman they won. You see folks other teams have goalies who win games often.
 
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