Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5 -1

[yubbers]

You really think that was what destroyed the Leafs' goaltending? Waiving a 37 year old to allow a 25 year old who just won a championship a crack at the backup position?

Dubas is the king of fixing things that ain't broken. He also waived Hainsey after Reilz had a career year with him. To bring in Codi f***ing Ceci...LOL

I'm so glad he's ruining another team elsewhere.

 

[PromisedLand]

Biz is 100% SPOT ON on Tavares

I wish Toronto Sports Media would grow a pair and f***ing talk TRUTH TO POWER instead of still hanging on to dubas' nuts

 

[Buds17]

A rough start to a playoff series hits a bit differently when the team lacks home ice advantage. I'd say that it feels just about imperative to win Game 2 and bring some positive vibes back to the SBA atmosphere for Games 3 and 4.

 

[Lightsol]

This is exactly what we haven't seen since the Burns/Quinn era.

Problem is, if the Leafs actually DID that we'd be looking at 10+ game suspensions for half the roster...

 

[Gabriel426]

Not saying Sammy played great, but I do feel for him. He literally had nothing to do for like 4-5 mins and his first action is stopping a 2 on 1 odd man rush.
Then somehow pucks just found its way to get pass him

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Nobody should be disappointed with the loss. They made it clear they weren’t dialing their game in for the playoffs the last couple weeks. Personal benchmarks were the #1 priority.

On to the next one.

 

[MSZ]

lol

 

[Lightsol]

ANd that worked out how? He waived a sure thing to bring in a known hot-head they had to kick out of the room weeks before the playoffs they missed.

That was not the reason they lost to Columbus, and you know it. They lost because they chose to give Babcock a 20 game window to finish f***ing with the players and then brought Keefe in with no plan at all. And as we've already seen, Keefe sucks at coming up with plans, so that season was doomed right then and there.

 

[Torontonian]

This is the least optimistic I’ve been about a series.

Everything that’s been an issue in the regular season came back and made them Lose again tonight.

1. Heavy forecheck team and we can’t break out
2. We can’t sustain or forecheck at all.
3. Special teams killed again, 4 on 3 and we don’t generate a goal.
4. Giving up freebie goals, (3 mins in and we are giving up a 2 on 1).
5. The players that are suppose to carry us looked pedestrian as f***.
6. Team still refuses to get a greasy goal, thinks they are gonna beat Swayman from wrist shots from the outsider.


I don’t see this team beating Boston 4 out
Of 6 times

 

[hamzarocks]

You really think that was what destroyed the Leafs' goaltending? Waiving a 37 year old to allow a 25 year old who just won a championship a crack at the backup position?

What hurt the leafs was

1) Not having an actual plan for Andersen after 2020 playoffs. He is 1 year from UFA, you just got Campbell at 1.6M who the upcoming 56 game season is expected to push 20-25 starts with potential to become #1 goalie
We should have dealt Andersen for 2 2nds or thereabout value after 2020. His value tanked in 2021 and he was a 5M negative asset who sat on the bench for 7 games vs MTL

2. Mrazek was a shitty gamble to make. He never was consistent and his #s behind a stronger canes defense were just average despite him being consistently injured. His play sucked and he was a non factor/option in 2022 playoffs vs Tampa. That was money poorly spent. We had to downgrade our 1st to a 2nd to move him

3. Murray trade was again piss poor. Too much caphit for a broken down player with term and declining play. Murray was injured most of 2023, and when he played was below average. We got lucky he missed 100% of reg season and were able to LTIR him this whole year. That trade could have cost us big time

Dubas was fine allocating 5M, 3.5M, and 4.6M i think for 2021, 2022, and 2023 on 3 goalies who were not good fits for our team, had declining play, and major injury concerns

That capspace could have been used to target a long-term goalie each of those years. Andersen if he went for 2 2nds gives us 5M cap space + 2 2nd rounders to get a long-term start in 2021.

Best UFA Guy was Ulmark to target

Trade wise: Gibson could have fit in long term with some retention for 2 2nds (retained to 5M), Kuemper was available, think MAF was available for a trade as well

 

[yubbers]

That was not the reason they lost to Columbus, and you know it. They lost because they chose to give Babcock a 20 game window to finish f***ing with the players and then brought Keefe in with no plan at all. And as we've already seen, Keefe sucks at coming up with plans, so that season was doomed right then and there.

No..bleeding points with a trash backup cost them the playoffs. LOL

Big Mac was solid as they come for backups. It was a completely unnecessary gamble.

 

[Lightsol]

1. Heavy forecheck team and we can’t break out

Our breakout is obvious to 95% of the league and our coach won't do anything to change it.

No..bleeding points with a trash backup cost them the playoffs. LOL

Big Mac was solid as they come for backups. It was a completely unnecessary gamble.

Yep, Sparks cost them points in a season that ended up being largely irrelevant, because Covid cancelled the end of it and the standings were basically generated randomly...

 

[CelticDruid]

Pretty difficult when the bone-headed coach is juggling the lines up to the last games of the regular season.

Who's on first?

 

[yubbers]

excuse f

Our breakout is obvious to 95% of the league and our coach won't do anything to change it.


Yep, Sparks cost them points in a season that ended up being largely irrelevant, because Covid cancelled the end of it and the standings were basically generated randomly...

Excuses for his boneheaded management. You asked how he nuked our goalie situation from day 1...I told ya.

 

[Lightsol]

Pretty difficult when the bone-headed coach is juggling the lines up to the last games of the regular season.

He was juggling the lines IN THE GAME. It's game 83, how do you not have the lines figured out, you dumbass coach?

 

[PromisedLand]

Apparently this is on fire on twitter

 

[Gallagbi]

Not saying Sammy played great, but I do feel for him. He literally had nothing to do for like 4-5 mins and his first action is stopping a 2 on 1 odd man rush.
Then somehow pucks just found its way to get pass him

I'm pretty sure it was like 2.5 minutes into the game. We didn't even make it through all the fwd lines. And it was right after our third line got a great rebound chance in the slot

 

[123offtheglass]

PP, PK & goaltending stunk.

Stars weren't good enough to put anything past Swayman tonight. At least allround they did control play at even strength, so that's something to build off of I guess.

 

[JamieG19]

Biz is 100% SPOT ON on Tavares

I wish Toronto Sports Media would grow a pair and f***ing talk TRUTH TO POWER instead of still hanging on to dubas' nuts

Oh please. Biz shifts the focus to the Euro who is injured because he can't possibly have a legitimate injury and is just wimping out because he doesn't scare because he's a Euro...and the old guy who is at the back half of the great career. And why does the "If you can't figure it out against Zacha or Coyle...." go for Auston as well?

I'm not worried about Matthews, he will get his goals in this series and be a factor, but Marner was a huge disappointment but the good old boys in the media and former players will always shift the blame to the usual suspects....the coach and the Euros.

 

[Lightsol]

excuse f

Excuses for his boneheaded management. You asked how he nuked our goalie situation from day 1...I told ya.

If trading an aging backup nuked your goalie situation, your situation sucked already.

 

[yubbers]

Oh please. Biz shifts the focus to the Euro who is injured because he can't possibly have a legitimate injury and is just wimping out because he doesn't scare because he's a Euro...and the old guy who is at the back half of the great career. And why does the "If you can't figure it out against Zacha or Coyle...." go for Auston as well?

I'm not worried about Matthews, he will get his goals in this series and be a factor, but Marner was a huge disappointment but the good old boys in the media and former players will always shift the blame to the usual suspects....the coach and the Euros.

So he hates euros and old ppl?

 

[JSn0w93]

Biz is 100% SPOT ON on Tavares

I wish Toronto Sports Media would grow a pair and f***ing talk TRUTH TO POWER instead of still hanging on to dubas' nuts

If this series goes like all indications it is going. Shanahan, Keefe both should be gone, and we need to find whatever way possible to fire his contract into the sun, we can't waste another year of trying to contend with him making 11 million. Maybe the new head at MLSE can hurt his feelings enough to get him to waive for a trade? Who knows, but that deal is extremely detrimental to us, an 11 million dollar center should chew Zacha or Coyle up and spit them out.

 

[Lightsol]

Oh please. Biz shifts the focus to the Euro who is injured because he can't possibly have a legitimate injury and is just wimping out because he doesn't scare because he's a Euro...and the old guy who is at the back half of the great career. And why does the "If you can't figure it out against Zacha or Coyle...." go for Auston as well?

I'm not worried about Matthews, he will get his goals in this series and be a factor, but Marner was a huge disappointment but the good old boys in the media and former players will always shift the blame to the usual suspects....the coach and the Euros.

They're pointing fingers at Tavares because the reason that line was mostly useless was his inability to do much of anything. Marner and Knies generated scoring chances, Tavares mostly coughed the puck up.

And Nylander's having the finger pointed at him because if he was hurt, he probably shouldn't have played a few days ago. You know, in the irrelevant back-to-back Florida trip?

 

[stealth1]

This is the most infuriating thing about the team.

Losing a game sucks, losing it by 4 goals sucks more.
Losing a game because of the same ailments the team suffered all year long and never addressed really sucks.

But those things can all be overcome by winning the next game and then 3 more.

What can't be changed, is the missing mentality "I might lose tonight, and maybe even tomorrow night, but I sure as shit will make you suffer for it and eventually you won't want to beat me anymore".

All sounds well and good. You can't change the mentality of Matthews and Marner. This who they are at this point. They will never carry this team to anything.

 

[Antropovsky]

Keefe needs to go. Sometime I think we might be a bit harsh on him as our top guys just choked.
But WTF was Calle doing on PP1 instead of Bert.

Playing Nylander on the PK late in the season in meaningless games.

Going with a very green defense that can barely make a pass in game 1.

Playing Calle on the PP over guys like domi and Bert... especially after Calle just got back from his extended injury