Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5 -1

[ThrowDemTongs]

As shitty and horrible this game was, we can still head back to Trawna with a split. Next game will tell us exactly what this team is made of (in case the years of failure hadn't already painted a good picture).

 

[CelticDruid]

He cant adapt. Cant read his tender is off..cant motivate the team. What is he there for? A comedian with funny expressions?

I've said it before he is the Rodney Dangerfield of hockey.

Just not funny in the Ha Ha department.

 

[ZEBROA]

Tavares and his salary since he signed vs a good goalie and a complement player and probably less expensive starplayers?
That signing was beyond stupid, even at the time. Did not help the positions we needed the most. Its like putting in a brand new fancy floor when the roof is leaking.

 

[Evilhomer]

As shitty and horrible this game was, we can still head back to Trawna with a split. Next game will tell us exactly what this team is made of (in case the years of failure hadn't already painted a good picture).

Was this game really any different than game 1 against Tampa last year? That worked out just fine in the end. You can't overreact to one game, good or bad. Two years ago Toronto hammered Tampa 5-0 in game 1, and how did that series end?

 

[DuklaNation]

What two high quality chances? Didn't the Leafs have high quality chances? Boston is clearly ahead early in the game. The Leafs were ahead for 42 minutes.

This chart shows Boston was better for the first 18 minutes - then in the end of the period the Leafs had the more dangerous chances and from that point forward the Leafs had a lot more chances.

Boston has 24 shots the entire game - that's usually considered a good defensive game. It looks bad when your goalie allows 4 goals on 23 shots though.

Look at it objectively:

If I told you the Bruins would get 23 shots all game with 4 powerplays and 14 shots on even strength the entire game - you'd probably say that was a good game.

When the goalie is letting in everything, even a good game looks bad. People are acting like Boston had breakaway after breakaway.

The goal and I believe Pastrnak chance earlier. These charts are a lazy attempt to quantify data into an easily digestible format. Yet the early part for Boston isn't accurately reflected for the actual game. Therefore, flawed.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Biz is 100% SPOT ON on Tavares

I wish Toronto Sports Media would grow a pair and f***ing talk TRUTH TO POWER instead of still hanging on to dubas' nuts

Bottom like jt is a good kid and he tries his best all da time .. but bottom line is HE CANT KEEP UP when playoffs start and picks up 10 percent .. it is same with mitch .. folks these 2 as i have been telling you for years as i coached and watched them both for a couple decades they dont have da speed andor the grit to play without speed .. only chance keefer has is to stick them on 3rd line and limit minutes .. but he cant because shannys and tavareses are family friends for decades

 

[jellery67]

DOn't ask questions if you don't like the answers. LOL

 

[Evilhomer]

So he hates euros and old ppl?

Don't all of us?

 

[Torontonian]

They're pointing fingers at Tavares because the reason that line was mostly useless was his inability to do much of anything. Marner and Knies generated scoring chances, Tavares mostly coughed the puck up.

And Nylander's having the finger pointed at him because if he was hurt, he probably shouldn't have played a few days ago. You know, in the irrelevant back-to-back Florida trip?

I don’t buy this hurt bullshit, Bergeron played with broke ribs and Tkchuck played with a broken Sternum.

Players play hurt in the playoffs and Nylander doesn’t have an injury like that.

I personally can’t believe a “tweak” keeps you
Out of the lineup.

 

[JamieG19]

So he hates euros and old ppl?

Yep. There you go. Or the better way to put it is that media guys and former players get in crap if they criticize influential star players of today that all the ppl who run in their circles with are buddies with, so they give players like Marner a pass and shift the blame to others.

 

[hfman]

The goal and I believe Pastrnak chance earlier. These charts are a lazy attempt to quantify data into an easily digestible format. Yet the early part for Boston isn't accurately reflected for the actual game. Therefore, flawed.

dude... what?

 

[pcruz]

I don’t buy this hurt bullshit, Bergeron played with broke ribs and Tkchuck played with a broken Sternum.

Players play hurt in the playoffs and Nylander doesn’t have an injury like that.

I personally can’t believe a “tweak” keeps you
Out of the lineup.

I can't start to contemplate on what would convince a player to participate in 82 games in a season, play 4 consecutive completely irrelevant games, and then miss the most important game of the season.

Just does not compute.

 

[stealth1]

Was this game really any different than game 1 against Tampa last year? That worked out just fine in the end. You can't overreact to one game, good or bad. Two years ago Toronto hammered Tampa 5-0 in game 1, and how did that series end?

While it is only 1 game, they showed nothing to believe its going to be any different. You have 3 10 million dollar guys playing like it's a regular season game. This team goes as far as those guys take them. Neither of them have shown to have that next level

 

[Apex Predator]

I felt like Matthews was fine today. He finished some checks and played fine. Obviously fine is not good enough in the playoffs. I’m more concerned with Marner. Completely invisible.

 

[JamieG19]

I don’t buy this hurt bullshit, Bergeron played with broke ribs and Tkchuck played with a broken Sternum.

Players play hurt in the playoffs and Nylander doesn’t have an injury like that.

I personally can’t believe a “tweak” keeps you
Out of the lineup.

Oh give us a break. So you have access to Nylander's medical report? Please inform us wise one!!!! You know it's just a "tweak" and he's just sitting out because he's a Euro that doesn't care...even though he's been the best playoff performer on the team.

Seriously it's absolute garbage to jump to the conclusion that it's not a significant injury. Let's keep the same line of logic going throughout the entire playoffs. Name some more players who "care" so when they get injured and miss 1 playoff game we can accuse them of faking it or not having heart.

 

[DitchMarner]

Playing Nylander on the PK late in the season in meaningless games.

Going with a very green defense that can barely make a pass in game 1.

Playing Calle on the PP over guys like domi and Bert... especially after Calle just got back from his extended injury

They got too carried away with the idea of having to be physical and it basically cost them the first goal of the game.

They put all those big bodies on the back end because they're playing BOS. If it was TB they would have had quite a different d-corps and strategy.

The Bruins are in their heads too much. I like that they showed a willingness to hit a lot and play a scrappy style in the first period, but you have to stick with what brought you to the dance. This team isn't the 1970s Flyers. This is a team that scored almost 300 goals in the regular season.

Tampa has shown you can win in the playoffs being a high-scoring team and they've beaten BOS twice recently. TOR just needs to play their game and play smarter and bring a healthy level of physicality but not become too fixated on that or get carried away with it.

 

[Lightsol]

I felt like Matthews was fine today. He finished some checks and played fine. Obviously fine is not good enough in the playoffs. I’m more concerned with Marner. Completely invisible.

I'm more concerned with Tavares. Fact is, Marner's going to look invisible if Tavares is doing nothing, just like he looked "invisible" when Matthews was with him doing nothing. It's kind of the story of the guy who's primarily a setup man; Marner can score himself, but if he's having to act as the sniper something on the line's gone horribly wrong.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

Was this game really any different than game 1 against Tampa last year? That worked out just fine in the end. You can't overreact to one game, good or bad. Two years ago Toronto hammered Tampa 5-0 in game 1, and how did that series end?

I love the positivity. I really do, but it's not just the results; it's how they're playing that's insanely concerning. They looked utterly hopeless. Let's see how this next one goes. They can't possibly be this bad again, can they? We shall see.

 

[Dave92]

Team is lead by the same gutless losers. No reason to expect a different result. They couldn't hold leads vs anyone by the end of the season.

 

[Frostitute]

Woof. Turns out goaltending is important. I say Woll or bust.

 

[Stephen]

Toronto was out-shooting and out-chancing Boston when the game was 1-0.

Hell, they started the game with a 5-0 lead in shots.

Boston scored on their first shot of the game.

Boston scored on their first shot of the 2nd period.

Boston scored on 2 of the 6 power plays they were gifted, one of which was a "shot" that bounced around the crease and went in off the goalie.

There were no shot-effects going on tonight.

Toronto piled on the chances and Boston piled on the goals.

Samsonov was well below average, and Swayman was very good.


There's the answer to the whole mathematical equation.

We have the same repetitive “getting goalied” conversation after every playoff failure.

Maybe the simple answer is our star players aren’t anywhere near as good as they need to be, and we should be spending more cap dollars on a real goalie, aka a wild card position that supposedly stops dynasties in their tracks.

Counting shots has never been the game.

 

[Lightsol]

We have the same repetitive “getting goalied” conversation after every playoff failure.

Maybe the simple answer is our star players aren’t anywhere near as good as they need to be, and we should be spending more cap dollars on a real goalie, aka a wild card position that supposedly stops dynasties in their tracks.

Counting shots has never been the game.

Thing is, the Leafs' problem isn't lacking cap space to pay a goalie; even with the cap crunch, they could pull it off. The issue is the lack of availability of a goalie good enough to win, and the failure of the org to develop one... Like, at all.

 

[CelticDruid]

You're not in the room so have no idea what kind of captain he is.

People have eyes to see.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

lots of hot takes based on score and not run of play . . . I actually thought Leafs played pretty well, and got zero good karma for their efforts tonight. While obviously Boston got some sweet breaks.

Could we have played better? sure.
Did we deserve to lose? probably not actually, as susprising as that sounds

Seriously, what game were you watching? We were dominated in all aspects of the game. Our PK and PP were absolutely dreadful. Marner, Tavares, and Rielly ineffective. Their goalie and defence infinitely more cohesive. We fumbled passes, looked jittery, and made a ton of boneheaded mistakes.

This is exactly the excuses the team is going to use to keep Keefe. “Look we outshot them, we therefore played a good game”.

 

[PromisedLand]

Don't wanna take credit but this was a good point too