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Man without Muzz our D goes from really good to really sketchy. Going to need Holl and Bogo to really step it up tomorrow
 
SniperOnTheWing said:


No the media doesn't pounce all over the narrative at all...
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So what if they do?
Championship calibre players would play so as to stuff it up the media's ass. Losers would let it affect their psyche.

What actually motivates these guys to compete when it gets hard?
Tough love from the coach ? Nope
Codes of conduct from an old school GM ? Nope
A player friendly coach? Nope
A boatload of money from a friendly GM? Nope
The adoration from the biggest and most loyal fanbase in the sport? Nope
The criticism from the media? Nope
The chance to exorcise the demons of the past years? Nope

What's it going to take to get these guys to "come out flying" in a big game instead of always trying to "weather the storm"?

Maybe it's just not in them
 
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Regardless, marner n others are not going anywhere imo. They are very valuable to a nhl team...its very hard to win. Ny rangers since 1941..one cup 1994...thats awful..but again hard to win. Tor has about 70 percent to 75 percent chance to win game 7. If im vetting, i gave to take toronto...but its one game.
 
egd27 said:
So what if they do?
Championship calibre players would play so as to stuff it up the media's ass. Losers would let it affect their psyche.

What actually motivates these guys to compete when it gets hard?
Tough love from the coach ? Nope
Codes of conduct from an old school GM ? Nope
A player friendly coach? Nope
A boatload of money from a friendly GM? Nope
The adoration from the biggest and most loyal fanbase in the sport? Nope
The criticism from the media? Nope
The chance to exorcise the demons of the past years? Nope

What's it going to take to get these guys to "come out flying" in a big game instead of always trying to "weather the storm"?

Maybe it's just not in them
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Collapse ?? You make it seem its preventable to lose...yeah up 3 to 1 and lose 2 ots..both times kind of fluke..2 on.0 and one of a defenseman...dont see the horror here. Toronto was never as good as the 2 games at montreal..deciding victories. Now its a game 7..u can complain all u want...the stars n going.nowhere. only thing maybe get a veteran netminder
 
Scott r said:
Regardless, marner n others are not going anywhere imo. They are very valuable to a nhl team...its very hard to win. Ny rangers since 1941..one cup 1994...thats awful..but again hard to win. Tor has about 70 percent to 75 percent chance to win game 7. If im vetting, i gave to take toronto...but its one game.
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It's less hard for other teams to win apparently. This incredibly talented team has 1 more shot to stop 5 straight first round losses and a choker reputation worse than any other Leafs team I can remember
 
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egd27 said:
So what if they do?
Championship calibre players would play so as to stuff it up the media's ass. Losers would let it affect their psyche.

What actually motivates these guys to compete when it gets hard?
Tough love from the coach ? Nope
Codes of conduct from an old school GM ? Nope
A player friendly coach? Nope
A boatload of money from a friendly GM? Nope
The adoration from the biggest and most loyal fanbase in the sport? Nope
The criticism from the media? Nope
The chance to exorcise the demons of the past years? Nope

What's it going to take to get these guys to "come out flying" in a big game instead of always trying to "weather the storm"?

Maybe it's just not in them
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An excellent post! Could not have said it better myself!
 
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MSZ said:
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Players need to self correct mistakes...not a darn coach. Actually the challenge was a gift to tironto..gave them too much time. I wouldn't of challenged goal....then.likely marmer penalty doesn't create goal.
 
Scott r said:
Collapse ?? You make it seem its preventable to lose...yeah up 3 to 1 and lose 2 ots..both times kind of fluke..2 on.0 and one of a defenseman...dont see the horror here. Toronto was never as good as the 2 games at montreal..deciding victories. Now its a game 7..u can complain all u want...the stars n going.nowhere. only thing maybe get a veteran netminder
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Sorry, but if they lose tomorrow night, this core needs to be broken up. No more patchwork and trading away of draft picks.
 
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Gallagbi said:
It's less hard for other teams to win apparently. This incredibly talented team has 1 more shot to stop 5 straight first round losses and a choker reputation worse than any other Leafs team I can remember
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Choking ?? Disagree..metaphor. whats choking..went to 2 overtime games. Who's choking ?? Looks like its not fred anderson...this time.
 
egd27 said:
So what if they do?
Championship calibre players would play so as to stuff it up the media's ass. Losers would let it affect their psyche.

What actually motivates these guys to compete when it gets hard?
Tough love from the coach ? Nope
Codes of conduct from an old school GM ? Nope
A player friendly coach? Nope
A boatload of money from a friendly GM? Nope
The adoration from the biggest and most loyal fanbase in the sport? Nope
The criticism from the media? Nope
The chance to exorcise the demons of the past years? Nope

What's it going to take to get these guys to "come out flying" in a big game instead of always trying to "weather the storm"?

Maybe it's just not in them
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That’s the conclusion I’ve come to - it’s not in the core and then you have a few players insulating them that are awful/completely ineffectual players (at this point in their career) - Thornton, Simmonds, Engvall, Foligno, Nash.
For the first time that I can remember, our D is the least of our worries (aside from Dermott and Sandin brain farts)

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the mark of a lazy, uninspired player terrified of body contact
 
Beleafer34 said:
Sorry, but if they lose tomorrow night, this core needs to be broken up. No more patchwork and trading away of draft picks.
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Well you can't blame Fred Anderson after all. Who is core to get rid of.. .matthews and Tavares are never going anywhere.
 
Matthews not scoring is an issue..I will be in minority..but he's great with puck and so overrated without it.
 
definedMF said:
Clear to anyone with half functioning eyes he is just absolutely trembling at the idea of getting hit hard in playoff games. Panic because he's a mental midget...
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I don't think that was it last night. He was trying to be too cute
 
Semantics said:
Rielly has been good, but it boggles my mind his shot can be such a muffin. How can a 220 lbs eight year veteran elite athlete have a peewee shot? Does he have some physical condition?
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It's kind of like how our offensive players are soft and skate away from the puck - the defensemen are not confident enough to wind up and shoot. They're very tentative and I think Reilly kind of sets the stage for that.
 
Gallagbi said:
The Leafs are choking.
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Choking by losing 2 ot games...disagree. odds don't see toronto a huge advantage in any game. You guys follow it more then me. BUT...all of u said Fred Anderson was the problem..now he isnt..lol
 
Scott r said:
Regardless, marner n others are not going anywhere imo. They are very valuable to a nhl team...its very hard to win. Ny rangers since 1941..one cup 1994...thats awful..but again hard to win. Tor has about 70 percent to 75 percent chance to win game 7. If im vetting, i gave to take toronto...but its one game.
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Forget about winning, I will take just the will to compete hard at this point.
 
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