He won't have much value unless we're retaining. Have to be teams that would consider taking him at 11 for 2 seasons though, but I highly doubt he would go there.
Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 3-2 in OT | Down 3-0 in the Series
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I'm still not sure what Woll is, the more looks at him the better
May as well start now
Jack Eichel and Matthew Tkachuck will be in the finals
You know two guys we constantly said Matthews was better than
Good times
Wheres our big off season signing Matt Murray?
Oh yeah injured... an injured goalie injured.. I would have never guessed it
Keefe is gone for sure. Dubas is probably gone too
3blizzard4
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Shanny has to be gone too. 9 years+ under him.
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LOSERS talk the talk
WINNERS walk the talk
What have we learned from experience of these players?
LOSERS or WINNERS?
After round 1, the Athletic did an analysis of the impact of each player. Rielly, Draisaitl, Tkachuk, Marner and Hintz... Marner was the 4th most effective NHL player in round 1.. He was terrible tonight but this I am not at all ready to give up on him... I'm not..
The biggest issue I see is that we don't have a plan B for zone exits against this team.. We always want to make a 2/3 pass exit, (you have seen our forwards not get the puck out in this series) or go for the stretch and bump to a player with speed. We don't utilize lobs and go for loose puck recoveries... I think what that means is that we aren't fast enough or "sticky" enough to work that plan. We aren't the fastest, true but we don't have too many accurate passers on the backend.. Players like Nylander could cause absolute havoc on loose pucks.. I feels there is a plan A only with small modifications but no plan B which means we need everything working to win against Panthers, Canes, Bruins etc.. ... everything..
I thought Matthews made some decent defensive plays tonight... I would like to see him once in a while take a little off his shot to score.. everything has to be ripped at max velocity but he's hitting posts and hitting Bob..place it..
No player other than Nylander and Kampf really played well tonight... how the hell do we win like that? We won't.. everyone needs to be better and it starts with game 4.
The biggest issue I see is that we don't have a plan B for zone exits against this team.. We always want to make a 2/3 pass exit, (you have seen our forwards not get the puck out in this series) or go for the stretch and bump to a player with speed. We don't utilize lobs and go for loose puck recoveries... I think what that means is that we aren't fast enough or "sticky" enough to work that plan. We aren't the fastest, true but we don't have too many accurate passers on the backend.. Players like Nylander could cause absolute havoc on loose pucks.. I feels there is a plan A only with small modifications but no plan B which means we need everything working to win against Panthers, Canes, Bruins etc.. ... everything..
I thought Matthews made some decent defensive plays tonight... I would like to see him once in a while take a little off his shot to score.. everything has to be ripped at max velocity but he's hitting posts and hitting Bob..place it..
No player other than Nylander and Kampf really played well tonight... how the hell do we win like that? We won't.. everyone needs to be better and it starts with game 4.
3blizzard4
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to rub salt in the wound we have til wednesday to marinate this devastating loss.
f*ck this NHL scheduling.
f*ck this NHL scheduling.
I hated that trade at the time and I hate it even more now
The guy hasn't been fit for literally years but we're going to bring him in and he's going to lead us to the promised land
Madness and stupidity
we'd have to give up a lot of assets and retain salary just to get him off the books.
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This was the most frustrating part, we were still very much in this series and outplayed Florida. It was probably the most confident you could feel being down 2-0 in a series. Yet they came out flat and lifeless, basically waiting to lose
What a rotten core
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Dubas' trust in this core is so arbitrary too. What about Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares as a group warrants so much faith? Some of them? Yeah, I'm still here for that. All of them? In that combination? Why? They're not even all that stylistically compatible that they fit into a coherent program. Tavares being the big outlier. Just doesn't make any real hockey sense.
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I don't think it's fair to lump JT in with the others in the 'CAN win, just don't WANT to win" category - I think he "WANTS to, but is pretty much past the "CAN" part.
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He has a full NTC and we are not going to ask him to waive it.
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It is puzzling...he had an unproven hypothesis and just stuck to it...I wouldn't be so peeved if the players like Nylander, Matthews and Marner weren't so money hungry as their #1 priority...took all that money and can't deliver...now they are put in a situation to milk the organization for more money...it's time to cut bait with some of them.
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seventieslord
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In the past few years the only people he has proven wrong are those who think he's a good goalie.
He usually comes back with a vengeance but it only lasts for a few games and either he lost the edge or got injured again.
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If this team can win 3 straight against Tampa, they can win 4 straight against Florida.
However, with our stars disappearing and Samsonov injured - that leaves a lot to be desired.
Dubas bet on Samsonov and Murray, and it looks like Woll is likely going to start with their backs against the wall.
However, with our stars disappearing and Samsonov injured - that leaves a lot to be desired.
Dubas bet on Samsonov and Murray, and it looks like Woll is likely going to start with their backs against the wall.
seventieslord
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It's unfair, it's cruel, but it is what it is. When you are a goalie, staying fit and healthy is a skill like any other. Any forward or defenseman we have who's frequently injured, we could forgive them for that and tell ourselves, oh well, he's great when he plays, and we can plan around that. They're just one of 18 skaters on the team. When you're starting goaltender, you're the only one. It's all on you. If you can't stay healthy, you suck. It's that simple. Even if it's cruel and unfair.
Hey Jamason, has a team ever come back from 3-0?
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I think players will also ask for what they think they deserve but it doesn’t mean the GM needs to pay that amount.
Dubas failed in handling the Willie situation but not like Lou helped either as Lou didn’t try to negotiate with Willie the year prior.
Everyone knows AM will get a contract between McD and Eichel. Dubas didn’t get the terms but the AVV is where most expected AM would get.
MM is interesting, he proven he deserved that contract over the past few seasons but at that time I really believe Dubas could had get the amount lower. Not sure why Dubas didn’t use the Drai contract as an example.
The JT signing is horrible now. But I don’t blame Dubas bc that’s a signing that signal his Leafs era. Dubas just bet on the wrong horses.
He can wheel and deal and I really starting to see he understands what’s needed to build a Cup winning team. Just look at all the TDL trades this season. I actually have faith in him making deals to make the team better which involve moving one or two of the top 5.
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