Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[Burnt Biscuits]

Still so many teams in the hunt. In the East there’s pretty much only the Sabres who are completely out of it, every other team is within 6 points of a spot.

A little more separation in the west but teams like Utah and Ducks are trying to are trying to make a push to be competing later into the season and selling early likely doesn’t help that room feel competitive.

At this rate it seems like 6-8 teams wont be making decisions on selling until right before the deadline.

IMO any team that is on pace for -30 goal differential or worse should be taking themselves out of the playoff hunt and focus on the future, I understand the odd fanbase that hasn't touched the playoffs in close to a decade forsaking the sensible choice for a little taste of the playoffs, but all of BOS, MTL, PHI, & PIT should be sellers.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Keep Savoie up. Trade for Seth Jones. Done

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Good way to build interest in the game after good TV numbers for the Four Nations tourney, by dropping national US coverage of game between last years SC finalists. Makes sense.

How Pejorative Slured.

 

[Mr Positive]

Still so many teams in the hunt. In the East there’s pretty much only the Sabres who are completely out of it, every other team is within 6 points of a spot.

A little more separation in the west but teams like Utah and Ducks are trying to are trying to make a push to be competing later into the season and selling early likely doesn’t help that room feel competitive.

At this rate it seems like 6-8 teams wont be making decisions on selling until right before the deadline.

We might have a unique issue where there may be very few sellers at all, and even teams like Utah and Anaheim be buyers as well. We might be in for a quiet deadline for the Oilers if the prices go up. We don't have much for trade assets

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Keep Savoie up. Trade for Seth Jones. Done

How do we fit in his cap? How would he feel coming to Canada after his brother and mom wanted his brother out of Canada for political reasons? I don't see the fit.

 

[guymez]

IMO any team that is on pace for -30 goal differential or worse should be taking themselves out of the playoff hunt and focus on the future, I understand the odd fanbase that hasn't touched the playoffs in close to a decade forsaking the sensible choice for a little taste of the playoffs, but all of BOS, MTL, PHI, & PIT should be sellers.

I agree.
I also find that the goal differential is a quick and dirty way to get a sense of which playoff teams are more legit than other teams. Not definitive by any means but it does provide a general sense about how easily that team is winning games.
Some current playoff teams (Detroit and Vancouver) are actually in the minus in terms of their goal differential and other teams (Minnesota +4 and Ottawa +2) that are barely on the plus side of things.

I find the Wild being at only +4 surprising considering that they have a 0.625 winning %.
Its not like their team defence is top notch either.
Oddly enough they seem to struggle at home.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

IMO any team that is on pace for -30 goal differential or worse should be taking themselves out of the playoff hunt and focus on the future, I understand the odd fanbase that hasn't touched the playoffs in close to a decade forsaking the sensible choice for a little taste of the playoffs, but all of BOS, MTL, PHI, & PIT should be sellers.

I’m not saying they won’t sell but there’s no benefit to selling early and signalling to the team and fans the season is over with almost 30 games left, it’s bad business. Especially a team like Boston, if they sell, that decision won’t be made until they know exactly where they stand at the deadline, they still have a real chance to make it and even a couple first round playoff games could be worth 5M-10M depending on the team.

 

[McDrai]

Keep Savoie up. Trade for Seth Jones. Done

If Seth Jones is traded anywhere, it will be Dallas

 

[VeteranPresence]

How do we fit in his cap? How would he feel coming to Canada after his brother and mom wanted his brother out of Canada for political reasons? I don't see the fit.

It'll be Dallas most likely. They have the cap space and need down the right side. Dumba and a later pick or two for Jones makes it easy for both sides.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

It'll be Dallas most likely. They have the cap space and need down the right side. Dumba and a later pick or two for Jones makes it easy for both sides.

Yeah that's how I see it too. Makes a lot of sense for both sides of Nil ponies up

 

[McTonyBrar]

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

How do we fit in his cap? How would he feel coming to Canada after his brother and mom wanted his brother out of Canada for political reasons? I don't see the fit.

I mean he can't really fit and likely would not come here, even with a chance to win.

I think Dallas is the most likely place, but I wonder if he's willing to go back to Columbus? They have the cap space and he would improve what's already decent on the back end.

 

[foshizzle]

delete

If Bruce says it, I believe it 100%

I mean he can't really fit and likely would not come here, even with a chance to win.

I think Dallas is the most likely place, but I wonder if he's willing to go back to Columbus? They have the cap space and he would improve what's already decent on the back end.

Yeah- it screams Dallas. They have the space

 

[foshizzle]

Every day I wake up I hope that Stu Skinner is traded and EDM acquired an actual true #1. lol. I can dream though.

Oilers are proud of having substandard goaltending at a rock bottom price. It’s really odd

 

[Fourier]

I agree.
I also find that the goal differential is a quick and dirty way to get a sense of which playoff teams are more legit than other teams. Not definitive by any means but it does provide a general sense about how easily that team is winning games.
Some current playoff teams (Detroit and Vancouver) are actually in the minus in terms of their goal differential and other teams (Minnesota +4 and Ottawa +2) that are barely on the plus side of things.

I find the Wild being at only +4 surprising considering that they have a 0.625 winning %.
Its not like their team defence is top notch either.
Oddly enough they seem to struggle at home.

Goal differential is actually an excellent predictor of success.

Some light reading:

https://web.williams.edu/Mathematic...l/math/papers/DayaratnaMiller_HockeyFinal.pdf

A Pythagorean Exponent for the NHL

A Pythagorean expectation is a statistic used to measure how many wins a team should expect, based on how many points they score and how many they allow. The name ‘Pythagorean’ comes fr…

worldsworstsportsblog.com

 

[FlameChampion]

I agree.
I also find that the goal differential is a quick and dirty way to get a sense of which playoff teams are more legit than other teams. Not definitive by any means but it does provide a general sense about how easily that team is winning games.
Some current playoff teams (Detroit and Vancouver) are actually in the minus in terms of their goal differential and other teams (Minnesota +4 and Ottawa +2) that are barely on the plus side of things.

I find the Wild being at only +4 surprising considering that they have a 0.625 winning %.
Its not like their team defence is top notch either.
Oddly enough they seem to struggle at home.

I agree with plus/minus, generally speaking.

But ironically Winnipeg and Washington have the best in the league. I would be surprised if either team makes it to the third round.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

You'd think so but who besides McDavid has ever had sustained success on Draisaitl's line?
McDavid has had Maroon of all people and Hyman, Kane for that one year and glorious playoff run and even Kassian who parlayed that success into a ridiculous contract. I can't think of anybody who has had sustained success with Draisaitl outside of that stretch for half a season with the DRY line, RNH-Draisaitl-Yamamoto.

You'd think that Drai was easy to play with based on his skillset, elite vision and the way he slows things down and finds people but the results on his wing haven't shown that out although granted he's had a who's who of wingers on his wing, but nobody has been elevated really even this year with Arvidsson having career low numbers as the most recent example. Great player obviously but he hasn't really elevated others statistically like other elite players in the league have and certainly not like McDavid has.

That’s because Leon has gotten the leftovers for years. He made two rookies who couldn’t stick in the league without him look respectable. He had to drag around a clearly injured Kane most of last year. He typically has to play with third line talents.

This is why our offseason went the way it did. Leons contract was up and they finally had to try to bring in some top six wingers to appease him. Unfortunately, they just threw two darts at the board and didn’t really consider play style or coaching tendencies when choosing their guys.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

Yeah you’re not wrong.

I think he is easier to play with but I can’t think of much for examples. He hasn’t gotten the same quality of linemates as McDavid. But no ones really had mid or term success either.

Draisaitl has generally been a great pp player but kind average 5 on 5. Hes sort of the opposite this year.

Been very difficult for Oilers to sustain any kind of line chemistry in general for years.

He made Yamamoto look like a pretty legit NHL player for a few years. Yams had enough success with Leon to price himself off the team. Only to play himself out of the league since. He couldn’t stick with a mid team like Utah and has played almost the entire season on the Tuscan Roadrunners.

 

[Jarvi]

I also think Drai wants to play with Pod

100%.

Yesterday in his interview when asked what he wants in a linemate, he said something along the lines of

"Someone who can forecheck and get me the puck, so I can turn it over"

 

[subnet]

I love Leon’s humor and wit! It’s so refreshing after hearing the majority of sports personalities spouting cliches or being arrogant and self-important!

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

Happy for Savoie, we must be giving him a top six look. Small/skilled is a gross combination but he hasn't been the player I assumed he was. Likely has the IQ to avoid devasting hits as well, so the downside is way less than you would think

Like XB, his offense should improve when he plays with players who think as fast as him imo. He needs .5 ppg within 1/2 weeks to stick in my mind, as he's smart enough to soak up McDrai points

Zary was two years older, but I'd like to see similar stats/impact after the first 40 games. With McDrai, maybe .6 ppg should be the baseline expectation

 

[McTonyBrar]

We wanted Buchnevich last year

 

[McShogun99]

We wanted Buchnevich last year

I hope they trade them all for picks/prospects so Holloway and Broberg can rot in a 5+ year rebuild.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

We wanted Buchnevich last year

St. Lou has one of the best front offices in the league. Dougie thinks Jordan is one of his. I shudder to think of the price for them to move him. We certainly can't even afford to kick tires on him. They seem to be pretty happy with Pavel as well. Wouldn't put to much faith in this report. Brayden they may move on from though.

 

[Mr Kot]

Not to disrespect the guy, but glad he will most likely go to Dallas. Jones has been low key not great the past few years, even in his last days in non-blackhawks teams. He's honestly as frustrating as Nurse was when he was playing boneheaded. He improved, but not the guy we need.