There is no Gigantic hill to climb the series is over. It’s only happened 4 times in NHL history. As far as I’m concerned a sweep is completed after game 3 and the rest of the series is just a formality.
Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 3-2 in OT | Down 3-0 in the Series
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Dragao6
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We are what we are
I think allot of us are at the breaking point finally after years of getting beat up that if no serious change happens what’s the point. Enough
I KNOW I AM!
keonsbitterness
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BallardEra
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Well I’ll settle with less garbage at least. He’s not really that good to begin with tho unfortunately. He’s just one of those okay bargain bin guys that we have surrounding the core. Similar to Kampf or Engval who we had to trade because he cost too much at over a million
Defence and goalies. I’m at low point here but D and goalies wins Cups right? Always has been always will be.
I’ll be better tomorrow
Bomber0104
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Then they shouldn't have been paid $11 million.
Win first, then get paid.
Instead Dubas decided to pay, then cross fingers they're not absolute playoff busts...
Which they indeed are, irrefutably.
DarkKnight
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Trade Nylander and Marner. Bring in guys that have heart and can play in the playoffs.
To be honest, I didn't watch a single full regular season hockey game this year. The Leafs doing this again in the playoffs and the crookedness of Bettman is probably going to turn me off hockey completely. It's too much of a waste of time and I cheer for all 3 major Toronto sports teams.
The fact that I'm pretty convinced Bettman sabotages the league to favour American teams turned me off more than the Leafs sucking and now coming back for the playoffs, nothing has changed that. This scheduling thing doesn't surprise me at all. The lack of disrespect you must have to Canada hockey to not have the Leafs play on a Saturday night and then give the Leafs McCauley when there's a clear conflict of interest. These things just show how bad the Leafs have it with the League. They leech off them and then give them the finger. Low and behold, first time the Leafs don't get a PP in a game. All these things are not coincidences.
The fact that I'm pretty convinced Bettman sabotages the league to favour American teams turned me off more than the Leafs sucking and now coming back for the playoffs, nothing has changed that. This scheduling thing doesn't surprise me at all. The lack of disrespect you must have to Canada hockey to not have the Leafs play on a Saturday night and then give the Leafs McCauley when there's a clear conflict of interest. These things just show how bad the Leafs have it with the League. They leech off them and then give them the finger. Low and behold, first time the Leafs don't get a PP in a game. All these things are not coincidences.
Series are first to 4 wins.
If Matthews was playing like his Hart season, sure hand him 12-13mil. Based on this year/his playoff career, what is he realistically worth? I wouldn't say even his current salary to be honest. His biggest asset was his ability to beat goalies 1on1 with a quick snapshot. He hasn't been able to do that all year now.
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You'd think they are booking them already? I bet there are nice golf courses too, right?
Bomber0104
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I feel like this was probably, verbatim, Keefe's post-game speech to the team.
keonsbitterness
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Would love to be a fly on the wall at the next Tannenbaum-Bell-Rogers meeting.
AlwaysSunnyInTampa
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I'm not trying to come in here as a Lightning fan to take shots in a dark moment. Just shedding light
That series last year was probably the hardest we ever had. And for the Leafs going out like that would have been okay like 5 years ago. When it's early in the process but you have that much fight you can afford to say "deep breath it's okay fans" and preach patience. You guys played like champions. Honest to God champions. Tampa just won because of experience. But this has gone on so long that merely winning a series became akin to the Stanley Cup. Tampa was a lame duck. We haven't had anything in the tank since December. We've literally just been faking it and spent almost 6 months trying to convince ourselves we can climb the Savage Mountain a 4th time without it trying to kill us. But this time we'll do it naked AND without oxygen AND without shelter! I'm not trying to say the Leafs didn't earn the win. I'm saying that they ran into a team more broken than them. Look at what Vasilevskiy has been saying all off season. We were full of shit to the point where even he was neglecting his own recovery process between games.
This is what happens when guys in the office let heart win over mind. Dubas wanted a splash, Tavares wanted to come home. I get it. I really do. But it led to a team that can't effectively allocate the financial resources it needs to win more than a round or two. Signing Tavares moved the pay scale to where Marner and Matthews had to sign for similar. It's not that the stars are failing (we've seen bad years by many guys because it's been so long) but there's not enough around them. It's the dream of building a mansion and Dubas has everything but nails to hold it together.
The front office needs to go. A few guys need to go to alleviate the cap situation. Keefe is unfortunately going to be a burnt offering but he's run into the same problem every coach for the last 13 years has run into in Edmonton. There's a few shining stars and not much else.
I would be furious at the way this team is built and I think you guys deserve better
Cheers
That series last year was probably the hardest we ever had. And for the Leafs going out like that would have been okay like 5 years ago. When it's early in the process but you have that much fight you can afford to say "deep breath it's okay fans" and preach patience. You guys played like champions. Honest to God champions. Tampa just won because of experience. But this has gone on so long that merely winning a series became akin to the Stanley Cup. Tampa was a lame duck. We haven't had anything in the tank since December. We've literally just been faking it and spent almost 6 months trying to convince ourselves we can climb the Savage Mountain a 4th time without it trying to kill us. But this time we'll do it naked AND without oxygen AND without shelter! I'm not trying to say the Leafs didn't earn the win. I'm saying that they ran into a team more broken than them. Look at what Vasilevskiy has been saying all off season. We were full of shit to the point where even he was neglecting his own recovery process between games.
This is what happens when guys in the office let heart win over mind. Dubas wanted a splash, Tavares wanted to come home. I get it. I really do. But it led to a team that can't effectively allocate the financial resources it needs to win more than a round or two. Signing Tavares moved the pay scale to where Marner and Matthews had to sign for similar. It's not that the stars are failing (we've seen bad years by many guys because it's been so long) but there's not enough around them. It's the dream of building a mansion and Dubas has everything but nails to hold it together.
The front office needs to go. A few guys need to go to alleviate the cap situation. Keefe is unfortunately going to be a burnt offering but he's run into the same problem every coach for the last 13 years has run into in Edmonton. There's a few shining stars and not much else.
I would be furious at the way this team is built and I think you guys deserve better
Cheers
I mean, Matthews has proven his worth in past seasons. Nowhere near an 11mil player this year, or unfortunately in the playoffs. He has never elevated like McDavid or Draisaitl or Mack. JT was always going to be overpaid as a UFA. Marner in the regular season is probably close to a $11mil player. Unfortunately all of this doesn't transfer to playoff success.
The results were bad, but it was the effort in a crucial game that is the most alarming for me
SeaOfBlue
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They probably knew. They also probably knew that it wouldn't make much difference with the way they were playing.
Throwing in the blender is nice and all, but if these guys are not able to skate or make even the most basic of passes, it is out of Keefe's hands. He's been through this before. He has tried it all. It is not something that Cup winning coaches have to deal with for a reason.
Keefe should really stop giving credit to Florida. They aren't even playing that well. We are just playing so poorly and they are the benefactors of that... Just like it has been the case in a lot of our other most recent series losses.
At this point, the Leafs are not officially eliminated yet. These guys can still redeem themselves, and it is not like Florida has not been swept before. But at some point the people off the ice can do so much. There is nothing that coaching, GMing, analytics, or anything else could do to bail out Matthews or Marner or even Tavares in this game. They are eating this one like all of their other recent failures and it is on them to lead this team into the reverse sweep. If not, then they will have another albatross around their necks.
WillyC
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This is seriously the pain and joy we must endure… coming back from 0-3 and winning 4 in a row.
Starts Wednesday
Go Leafs
Starts Wednesday
Go Leafs
3blizzard4
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"So Larry, no one is watching TV or listening to our radio stations in May and June. Why do you think that is? "
HamiltonNHL
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Leafs top players were dominated by Florida
Nobody on the Leafs side said it, but Florida dominated Toronto’s best. The scoring chances were 18-4 for the Panthers with Marner on the ice, 18-7 with Matthews on the ice. It was just 11-8 with Tavares, and Toronto won the scoring chance battle 14-4 with Nylander out there. Aleksander Barkov’s line was particularly effective against Matthews and Marner.
They are easy to play against in the playoffs.
Prevent Marner from handling the puck and Matthews can’t carry the puck.
Thats what you took from this game?
DarkKnight
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We actually were better last year against TB than at anytime this playoffs.
