Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 3-2 in OT | Down 3-0 in the Series

[Racer88]

It's goaltending.

It’s the entire team. Florida is a much better balanced and committed team. The Leafs are none of those things

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Anyone else think Matthews wants to head south? I do. Marner wants to be the guy but his high intensity PO games just suck. He can't win.

I dont know what to think other than this was embarrassing

I do. Said it since his first year.

 

[GQS]

The Leafs play down to the level of their opponents. Though in this case our luck really just ran out. Florida deserves credit because they really are a great team. Your starting goalie goes down, Knies, refs decide for the first time this year we don't get a powerplay, but yeah, we were probably going to lose anyway.

They were the better team for much of this game, but in the 1st the Leafs were taking it to them and again they let that great starting energy get away from them with an early goal in the 2nd. After that the Leafs couldn't bury any of the chances given to them while the Panthers were better able to convert on what was given to them.

Just don't get how they became unclutch so quickly and how our best players have disappeared and now they're going to need a miracle of a lifetime to comeback and win this series.

 

[Superstar]

Just because I'm disgusted at the Leafs doesn't mean I think McCauley deserves a pass though. There's no chance Florida played a perfectly clean game, he has no business being an NHL ref

Maurice's 1-to-5 meme the last week or so was probably baked into his mind and fueled his bias.

 

[Wiseguys]

If Dubas has an extension, guaranteed he will be told to fire Keefe

 

[capfit9]

 

[stats1]

Marner was drunk or high on the ice for sure dude was never into it from puck drop

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Even overlooking tonight's result, the way they've played in the playoffs has just been nowhere near good enough. I don't think they were the better team against Tampa, and they don't look like the better team against this WC2 team. They've been ridiculously passive all playoffs and consistently look like the moment is too big for them.

To succeed in the modern NHL, a team needs to be creative, intense, and fast in both decision making and skating speed. The Leafs look like the exact opposite

 

[wingman75]

Agreed, but I think Dubas is as good as gone. I think he leaves IMO. That report suggesting 2/3rds of ownership isn’t in love with him is probably the nail in the coffin. That’s all the ammo he probably needs to move on to Calgary or Pittsburgh and get a fresh start in a more calm market.

But we need changes, how Liljegren wasn’t in the line up tonight is crazy to me.

In that 2/3rds are we assuming Tannenbaum is the 1?

Maybe it is time for EVERYONE to move on. This group of losers need to be broken up.

 

[Guided by Veseys]

Crow is served, come and get it!​

 

[reggietfc]

looks like the muskoka 4 are back.jus a week later than normal

 

[Aashir]

Barrie has offensive upside at least. Defensively, they're about the same. I know I want to say Brodie is way worse defensively, but that really would be recency bias.

Moreover, Barrie you can shelter in Offensive roles and not play him in the dzone

How the f*** do you do the opposite with Brodie…tell him to just not cross the blueline? He’s so ass in the ozone I actually don’t understand what’s going on in his mind

 

[Menzinger]

O'Reilly invisible since his OT face off win.

Shame on me trusting a big play Dubas addition. His other big play Brodie throwing games away

I won't blink if it comes out this summer that Brodie has been dealing with an undisclosed injury or has been putting off surgery.. there's no other reason for him to randomly start playing so poorly

 

[ToneDog]

Marner should’ve been traded two years ago after the Habs series.

That was the moment that confirmed for me this organization wasn’t serious about winning.

Should have been traded when he initially turned down the Tavares deal.

 

[stats1]

Dubas is gone for sure. Keefe is a guy walking to to his execution

 

[Shooter2x]

That now marks 5 straight games where the Leafs have scored 2 goals. The only time they scored more was when Vasi was letting in muffins from everywhere

These guys don't have it. f*** the core, blow this team up

We've been middle of the pack or lower in GF since Dubas went 4d chess mode around the deadline

 

[Maplebeasts]

In other news, Keefe saw the first 2 periods play out and thought the answer was to keep the top six unchanged. f***ing LOL.

 

[ULF_55]

Montreal owned Matthews and marner as well.

 

[MSZ]

Sportsnet needs game 5 back in Toronto to help pay for their billion dollar broadcasting fee. Man they screwed up. They assumed Matthews would bring deep playoff runs and Stanley cups into the Toronto market.

Actually it was the Kessel era where Rogers thought they would've made multiple deep runs so they committed big dollars into the broadcast rights.

 

[Cynical]

The one thing the Leafs haven't done this season is not get a single pp in a game. Wes again refs a game that he shouldn't and not one pp. Not saying that's why they lost. But that's fckn weird.

One goal game. It's a huge part of what the Leafs do. It's not talked about enough. PPs change momentum.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

 

[Brown Dog]

This stings. Thought they played well enough in the first two games to at least earn a split. Weren't great tonight but almost snuck out with a win anyway.

Obvious question is why they couldn't put forth a better showing with their season on the line.

 

[stats1]

Keefe is an abomination of a coach

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Not even mad. They were lucky to take it to OT. Outplayed and outhustled the whole game. If this is their do-or-die look, I hope it's die. This is a flawed team that should be completely dismantled. Where were the god damned 11M dollar players tonight? They all need to f*** the f*** right off. Or not. I'm beyond caring now,

 

[ITM]

Dunno where they go from here. Team is too good to do a full tear down, but they're also way too garbage to do anything but. Mental strength of toddlers, of all the hockey players in the world, how did we end up with the superstars who turn into slugs when it's on the line? And it's not just one of them, it's all of them. This isn't just an issue of a coach, a GM's philosophy, or a captain, this rot runs all the way through.

How did it even end up like this? Is this the legacy of their contracts and the weight of expectations? The immaturity of young stars in a market that treats them like gods and the trappings of fame distracting them?

If we blow it up, Matthews, Marner, and Nylander will all go on to have massive success elsewhere and people will wonder how the hell it never worked here. But at some point, you gotta cut bait.

I don't know if that's hard to imagine why anymore.

The idea that it can't work here is definitely taking hold for me.

Unofficial underwriters for the NHL? Too large a market with too big a task given the intangibles.

Wont forget what it was like to see Shanahan holding our card to draft first and see Matthews develop those first few years.

Beyond that...Comfortably numb.