Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 3-2 in OT | Down 3-0 in the Series

francis246

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Yeah Keefe has to go for sure, and a few core players and a lot of secondary players. I'm still a bit on the fence with Dubas, I don't think he should just be replaced for the sake of it. It depends what he's willing to do next

Agreed, but I think Dubas is as good as gone. I think he leaves IMO. That report suggesting 2/3rds of ownership isn’t in love with him is probably the nail in the coffin. That’s all the ammo he probably needs to move on to Calgary or Pittsburgh and get a fresh start in a more calm market.

But we need changes, how Liljegren wasn’t in the line up tonight is crazy to me.
 
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Statsman1

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For whatever reason, this team, as talented as each individual is, just cannot get it done. After all these tries, it feels really bad to say it’s time to break it up, but maybe it is.

Keefe just doesn’t seem to be the right guy.

One or two of the core four have to be moved….but right now, what do you move them for?

I don’t think it’s Dubas’ fault, outside of hiring (and sticking with) Keefe. But if the Rangers can toss their coach for not meeting expectations, then the Leafs certainly can too.

I think Dubas should keep his job, based on his record of the players he brought in, and his apparent draft success. But he blew it with the coaching selection. Keefe should be updating his resume.

The math just doesn’t support the Leafs coming back in this series. I have no hope of them winning this round, but I hope they win Game 4.
 

michi510

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How do you come into a must win game lifeless.

Oilers got up 4-0 by first. Devils today 3-0 by first.

There’s no urgency from this core. Time and time again. Time to realize they just don’t have what it takes. Every year, same excuses.

It’s just so…. disappointing to see the effort displayed. They clearly got lucky with Tampa.
 

BigBlu

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Sportsnet needs game 5 back in Toronto to help pay for their billion dollar broadcasting fee. :laugh:Man they screwed up. They assumed Matthews would bring deep playoff runs and Stanley cups into the Toronto market.
 

LeafGrief

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Dunno where they go from here. Team is too good to do a full tear down, but they're also way too garbage to do anything but. Mental strength of toddlers, of all the hockey players in the world, how did we end up with the superstars who turn into slugs when it's on the line? And it's not just one of them, it's all of them. This isn't just an issue of a coach, a GM's philosophy, or a captain, this rot runs all the way through.

How did it even end up like this? Is this the legacy of their contracts and the weight of expectations? The immaturity of young stars in a market that treats them like gods and the trappings of fame distracting them?

If we blow it up, Matthews, Marner, and Nylander will all go on to have massive success elsewhere and people will wonder how the hell it never worked here. But at some point, you gotta cut bait.
 

Aashir Mallik

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At least Kampf showed up.

He showed a ton of heart tonight and was all over the ice.
Give him Matthews contract or marners or nylanders for all I care

But those losers cannot be on the team come next season
 

Jojalu

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Look at our core players dawg, we’re never winning anything.

Nylander only one who bothered showing up.

Matthews had a 12 game point streak so it was due to end but he still could have been more of a factor.

If the big guys had lived up to their end of the bargain the Leafs are up 3-0.

2 goals every game from the depth. Thay ahould be more than enough if the top 6 did anything
 

Chief Leaf

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Yes we Lost.
The full horn hasn't blown yet!

It has be done before,..and even if it hasn't, BE PUCKING BELEAF

If we hurt our hearts oh well, BUT KEEP OUR HEARTS GOING FOR OUR TEAM!!

+ outweighs - GLG

Signed from a guy who has a dog named "Wendel"

Keep the fight alive bros!

That is all!
 

Blanche Blanche

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Dec 2, 2017
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Need to clean house ASAP. If the team can't win against an EBUG they can't win a Cup. It's literally that simple. Committing to Tavares and this core is just committing to losing.

Really glad they beat Tampa. Definitely a high water mark of my 20 years of Leafs fandom. Which just shows how miserable this is.


Amen. All the other years we said once we beat Boston we will go on a tear is BS too.

We would’ve gotten smashed.

This isn’t the core.

Marner and Matthews ain’t it.

Get some good players to help nylander and Reilly.

Build around that.

Get a real NHL coach. Keefe was a rookie.

Shanny and Dubas can get tf outta Toronto
 

thewave

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That's it. I'm pretty optimistic generally but stick a fork in it.

Very Leafy it's to a team like the Panthers.

They'll get toasted in the next round.

It's looking like prob Edmonton vs Carolina

Or maybe Dallas vs Carolina/ jersey.

Leafs waste another opportunity to do something.

Changes are coming.

Hope I'm wrong obviously but being down 3-0 ... most likely isn't happening.

Are you sure they are coming? There are going to be 50 Dubas passed the tests posts and the majority of fans want to keep him around.

Fanbase wants to double down on the loser. Good luck with that.
 

PromisedLand

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He's going to Pittsburgh to screw up Sids last few years.

Good Riddance! When the pens ownership don't throw money around like MLSE did and tell him to F-OFF within 2 years like they did the most recent exec team, it would be hilarious to see how someone who is a result of nepotism who has never worked for anything in his life gets whats coming to them

He ruined the best chance Leafs had had to win the cup in about 50 years. I will never forgive this trash ever!
 
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