Proposal: Leafs - Flames

[Tkachuk Norris]

Gaudreau is the Franchise player. He's not going anywhere. Flames own his rights for 5 more seasons. Trading him in the next 3 would be beyond stupid. The guy is going to be a top 5 NHL scorer for a decade.

 

[Randy Randerson]

seems pretty consensus that neither fan base wants this trade, and that Gaudreau is worth a significant add on top of Marner right now. So OP, if you were feeling out the value and if it would be something anyone would do, I think you have your answer.

Also stayed WAY more civil than I thought it would, kudos.

 

[7even]

Matthews+

hueheuhue

From what I've seen from Marner it doesn't look like he can be a 1st line forward.

huehueheuhue

 

[diceman934]

Why would the Leafs be interested....they would have to give up Marner their second best prospect at this time as well as additional assets, we are not ready to compete yet and this is a deal you do when you are.....a big no thanks, as well I want to keep Marner, huge fan.

 

[AINEC*]

Marner + Nylander + 2017 1st

 

[therealkoho]

Johnny hockey in TO is intriguing no doubt

if this is all about the money he wants it doesn't work the Leafs really as they're up on the cap high wire trying to balance things and so Mitch isn't your guy. Marner as you may be aware is on an entry level deal and I would think Gaudreau want's substantially more then that.

So if you want to unload a guy who may want more money then Calgary's willing to pay, the Flames will have to take money back, and not just any money

Lupul + Marner

Gaudreau + Daniel Pribyl + Calgary 3rd 2017

oh yes the ever important 3rd

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

Johnny hockey in TO is intriguing no doubt

if this is all about the money he wants it doesn't work the Leafs really as they're up on the cap high wire trying to balance things and so Mitch isn't your guy. Marner as you may be aware is on an entry level deal and I would think Gaudreau want's substantially more then that.

So if you want to unload a guy who may want more money then Calgary's willing to pay, the Flames will have to take money back, and not just any money

Lupul + Marner

Gaudreau + Daniel Pribyl + Calgary 3rd 2017

oh yes the ever important 3rd

sorry that's not even close, Lupul is garbage, While is Calgary throwing anything in.

If it was going to happen it would be Marner and a significant plus. And I doubt its about money, Calgary's ownership group is one of the wealthier in the NHL.

Any trade of Gaudreau is a strict hockey trade.

 

[YourAverageFan*]

"Who adds?"

 

[Randy Randerson]

Marner + Nylander + 2017 1st

Woah, that seems excessive.

Exactly the reason that the leafs don't go after Gaudreau, the sum of what we have to give up could end up being way better than Gaudreau by himself. Leafs should wait on the young assets we have, not deal them

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Johnny hockey in TO is intriguing no doubt

if this is all about the money he wants it doesn't work the Leafs really as they're up on the cap high wire trying to balance things and so Mitch isn't your guy. Marner as you may be aware is on an entry level deal and I would think Gaudreau want's substantially more then that.

So if you want to unload a guy who may want more money then Calgary's willing to pay, the Flames will have to take money back, and not just any money

Lupul + Marner

Gaudreau + Daniel Pribyl + Calgary 3rd 2017

oh yes the ever important 3rd

Yeah.....

 

[Menzinger]

The plus would be too significant to make sense for the Leafs at this point.

Trading Marner alone for him doesn't make sense for the Leafs given where they are in their rebuild.

Neither team likes this.

 

[Haatley]

Trading Marner alone for him doesn't make sense for the Leafs given where they are in their rebuild.

Neither team likes this.

A 22 year old PPG player doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team? You take the mystery box? Sure thing.

 

[QcFlames12]

Leaf fans....

How often is a 22 year old 80 point forward traded? If ever he were traded I would want Marner, Nylander, a first round pick without protection and maybe more. The fact of the manner is you don't trade 22 year old PPG players for 20 year old prospects. Yes Nylander has played some NHL games but he will never be the player Gaudreau is today, i would be more than willing to bet on it also. Marner is forsure a nice piece but he is also no where near Gaudreau's level of talent, nor will he ever be.. He he was close he would already be in the NHL putting up points it's a simple fact.

There is nothing on your roster I trade Gaudteau for today. Nothing makes sense, yes Mathews may be close on value but we are already stacked at center and don't really need him, we need more Gaudreaus!

Sorry no deal to be found here

 

[Gavy]

A 22 year old PPG player doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team? You take the mystery box? Sure thing.

A 1 for 1 trade, the leafs take that and run. Calgary laughs, but the leafs aren't at a point where they can trade Marner and add another big plus.

We need to stay the course with the rebuild.

 

[rockinghockey]

Matthews+

I know Gaudreau is proven but I would take Mathews, until Gaudreau proves he can score on the road and doesn't have to be protect at home

 

[Joey Moss]

Even if Gaudreau wanted to go East and couldn't sign with the Flames, Marner+ doesn't seem like a reasonable package for Calgary. Would probably have to involve something with immediate help.

 

[garyturner3]

Leaf fans....

How often is a 22 year old 80 point forward traded? If ever he were traded I would want Marner, Nylander, a first round pick without protection and maybe more. The fact of the manner is you don't trade 22 year old PPG players for 20 year old prospects. Yes Nylander has played some NHL games but he will never be the player Gaudreau is today, i would be more than willing to bet on it also. Marner is forsure a nice piece but he is also no where near Gaudreau's level of talent, nor will he ever be.. He he was close he would already be in the NHL putting up points it's a simple fact.

There is nothing on your roster I trade Gaudteau for today. Nothing makes sense, yes Mathews may be close on value but we are already stacked at center and don't really need him, we need more Gaudreaus!

Sorry no deal to be found here

Leaf fans are not trying to trade for Gaudreau. This thread wasn't created by one.

 

[Randy Randerson]

Leaf fans....

How often is a 22 year old 80 point forward traded? If ever he were traded I would want Marner, Nylander, a first round pick without protection and maybe more. The fact of the manner is you don't trade 22 year old PPG players for 20 year old prospects. Yes Nylander has played some NHL games but he will never be the player Gaudreau is today, i would be more than willing to bet on it also. Marner is forsure a nice piece but he is also no where near Gaudreau's level of talent, nor will he ever be.. He he was close he would already be in the NHL putting up points it's a simple fact.

There is nothing on your roster I trade Gaudteau for today. Nothing makes sense, yes Mathews may be close on value but we are already stacked at center and don't really need him, we need more Gaudreaus!

Sorry no deal to be found here

We agree he's worth alot, but the package coming back would definitely have the potential to be better than Gaudreau if all the components turned out.

That being said, I think Marner+Nylander+an unprotected 1st is above market value. Kessel when he was acquired by the leafs is the most comparable example I can think of - he was 22 turning 23 (actually younger than Gaudreau is now, he turned 23 on Aug 13), had just come off a 36g/60pt in 70 games season, was a recent top 5 draft pick, and we gave up two 1sts + one 2nd. At the time, the leafs were expecting to be in the playoff hunt as a bubble team, so expected the 1st's to be 10th to 20th OA somewhere.

Every component of the Marner+Nylander+2017 1st is more valuable than what we thought every component of the Kessel trade was at the time the deal was made, so I think you're high on your ask there.

Gaudreau is great, and I don't blame you for wanting to keep him

Even if Gaudreau wanted to go East and couldn't sign with the Flames, Marner+ doesn't seem like a reasonable package for Calgary. Would probably have to involve something with immediate help.

I think the package would include JVR if it were to work, but there's no deal to be had here, just doesn't fit either teams current needs

 

[Randy Randerson]

A 22 year old PPG player doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team? You take the mystery box? Sure thing.

Sure, we would take Gaudreau for Marner 1 for 1....are the flames likely to do that?

It's the added stuff that makes us just hang on to our lottery tickets and hope for the best

 

[Mr Hockey*]

Marner, Neilson + 2017 1st (lottery protected) > Johnny G?

 

[garyturner3]

Leaf fans....

How often is a 22 year old 80 point forward traded? If ever he were traded I would want Marner, Nylander, a first round pick without protection and maybe more. The fact of the manner is you don't trade 22 year old PPG players for 20 year old prospects. Yes Nylander has played some NHL games but he will never be the player Gaudreau is today, i would be more than willing to bet on it also. Marner is forsure a nice piece but he is also no where near Gaudreau's level of talent, nor will he ever be.. He he was close he would already be in the NHL putting up points it's a simple fact.

There is nothing on your roster I trade Gaudteau for today. Nothing makes sense, yes Mathews may be close on value but we are already stacked at center and don't really need him, we need more Gaudreaus!

Sorry no deal to be found here

Obviously it'd be best case scenario if Marner turned out to be as good as Gaudreau eventually, but you do realize Gaudreau didn't make the NHL until his draft+4 season right? And he turned out alright. That would be the 2018-2019 season for Marner so not a great comparison on your part.

 

[Haatley]

Sure, we would take Gaudreau for Marner 1 for 1....are the flames likely to do that?

It's the added stuff that makes us just hang on to our lottery tickets and hope for the best

No we dont. But thats not what the guy i quoted said.. he said he wouldnt do the trade one for one.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Trading Marner alone for him doesn't make sense for the Leafs given where they are in their rebuild.

Neither team likes this.

What the what?

 

[Pitt the Elder]

Marner + Nylander and Flames atleast don´t slams the phone at Lou, dunno if that is enough to get in the ballpark

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

My god, I can't breathe...

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

I know Gaudreau is proven but I would take Mathews, until Gaudreau proves he can score on the road and doesn't have to be protect at home

You know that he was nearly a point per game on the road in 2014-2015.

Also that he generated a lot of chances on the road.

I tend to think the whole he can't score on the road thing is kinda more along the lines that he was unlucky last year.

even in college he was scoring on the road, it points to last year being an anomaly.

Realistically for the Flames if they were going to trade him, the only things that would get them interested would be Mathews, or Marner + big piece whether a draft pick or young player.