Proposal: Leafs - Flames
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BertCorbeau
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It's symbolic of the overpayment required to trade for Gaudreau .. It just doesn't make sense for either team
HarrisonFord
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Agreed. Personally I'd rather just let Marner develop into a Gaudreau type player, keep Gardiner to be a shot suppressing beast #3 defenseman, and our lottery pick. The only valuation more hilarious was the joker who thought they'd get Matthews + for Gaudreau
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Yeah, not a good idea.
Gaudreau is what Leafs fan hope Marner turns into. Flames have no interest in trading him, let alone for an unproven player. The plus would have to be significant.
On the flip side of the coin, Leafs don't want to add to Marner, nor should they be giving up a younger and more cost effective player with where they are at in their rebuild.
Gaudreau is what Leafs fan hope Marner turns into. Flames have no interest in trading him, let alone for an unproven player. The plus would have to be significant.
On the flip side of the coin, Leafs don't want to add to Marner, nor should they be giving up a younger and more cost effective player with where they are at in their rebuild.
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I agree this trade just makes zero sense. Assuming the Leafs expect Marner to be a J.G 2.0 then they won't want to loose years of control and from the Flames side why take the risk of Marner not becoming as good as J.G to gain a cpl extra cheap years.
However with out team bias if 1 likes J.G then they also like Marner and vice versa. They play such a similar style its uncanny.
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The probability of Marner turning out as good as Gaudreau is pretty slim IMO. We're talking a top 3 winger in the game at the age of 22. I'm very high on Marner, but I think its more likely he ends up a 45-50 point player than it is an 80 point player by the age of 22. I think its most likely that he ends up somewhere between 60-70 points/year.
Marner + JVR is probably the only deal I can think that would make sense and be relatively fair.
If a reasonable deal could be made for a talented winger, obviously we would make it but this is what the thread has so far...
Basically two blue chip prospects, Bozak (good 2C), and JVR (1 LW) for Gaudreau and a bunch of cap dumps. How would this possible make us a better team?
Why would we give up the 1st OV + for a small winger, again this makes no sense.
Again two blue chips and an elite grinder for a small winger
This is just a straight up joke, won't even begin to discuss this...
Fogelhund
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There is no trade that makes sense for both teams, unless somehow Calgary gets forced into trading him, which is doubtful, and surely other teams would make reasonable offers.
Yes, the Leafs hope that Marner becomes like Gaudreau, and even if he doesn't reach those heights, having him cost controlled for years is worth the risk of not making such a trade, when we would have to add on significantly. The Leafs need the depth we'd lose in such a trade.
Calgary only makes the trade under an armageddon situation.
Yes, the Leafs hope that Marner becomes like Gaudreau, and even if he doesn't reach those heights, having him cost controlled for years is worth the risk of not making such a trade, when we would have to add on significantly. The Leafs need the depth we'd lose in such a trade.
Calgary only makes the trade under an armageddon situation.
WTFMAN99
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Gaudreau, Monahan and Brodie seem like Flames for life...I'd keep those 3 and jettison anyone else off the team before I think of moving them.
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Ages aside, I don't think Marner would be ranked where he is on all the prospect lists or would he have been drafted where he was if his ceiling wasn't up there - Patrick Kane and Claude Giroux are the most used comparables that I've seen.
Not to say that he's guaranteed to hit that ceiling, or that the likelihood doesn't favour him falling somewhere slightly less than it, as you suggest. But again, I think there's every reason to believe that he could become a Gaudreau level talent, and the leafs are in a position to be able to wait and see.
I'm also not projecting Gaudreau to be anything more or less than he was this year, valuing him as a 75-85 pt winger - he could trend in either direction or he might just be as good as he is
Edit: I think the valuation of Marner+JVR is fair as well
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Dustin
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It's ok for each team to be happy with their guy.
Gaudreau would be worth more than Marner by quite a bit at this point. That being said the Leafs hope Marner can turn into a player as good as Gaudreau and have very little they would be willing to add to Marner as they are rebuilding. All in all not a good trade for either team.
Gaudreau would be worth more than Marner by quite a bit at this point. That being said the Leafs hope Marner can turn into a player as good as Gaudreau and have very little they would be willing to add to Marner as they are rebuilding. All in all not a good trade for either team.
SB84
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As a fan of both teams it's funny to see Leafs fan saying no. Gaudreau is Marner's ceiling so I do this trade in a heartbeat if I'm the Leafs.
This trade makes zero sense from the flames side of things and doesn't make much sense for the rebuilding Leafs to acquire a player in their prime when they are still far off from even making the playoffs. That being said Johnny hockey is worth wayyy more than Marner.
This trade makes zero sense from the flames side of things and doesn't make much sense for the rebuilding Leafs to acquire a player in their prime when they are still far off from even making the playoffs. That being said Johnny hockey is worth wayyy more than Marner.
WTFMAN99
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Are we reading the same thread?
(The majority of) Leaf fans aren't saying no to Gaudreau for Marner...they aren't comfortable with adding the significant additions it would take to get this trade to go through because 1 for 1 isn't realistic at all for the Flames.
There is a chance for Marner to become as good as Gaudreau...why not see how Marner's development goes?
SB84
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That's what the Leafs should do and why this trade does not make the least bit of sense for either team.
djdev
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Please stop. Of course there's no guarantee he pans out just like any prospect, but everything you may or may not have seen up to this point 100% looks like he could be an all star caliber 1st line forward. Not even really debatable because he's looked that good. Until he gives you a reason to think otherwise (which could easily happen as early as this season) it's just being biased to make statements like that.
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