Confirmed with Link: Leafs extend Keefe

[mikeyz]

Sure Mikeyz.

It’s not far from the truth.

I believe that Dubas did make him retract them. The truth always comes out and they come out the most when you're upset and your guard is down. In those moments Keefe was being himself and then would get called in by Dubas to retract because Kyle was obsessed with making sure everyone liked him in that room. Nothing wrong with that but not with this team... they were treated like children so they remained children. Now my theory will either be proven right or wrong.. We shall see. I just get the sense from his personality and just knowing the type of player he was... he expects more and will call players out.

I think a really telling leadership style of his would be when he was the captain of the barrie colts and he refused to shake the hands of the commissioner and walked out of the banquet. I think he is the type to take a stand, to fight and to call it out as he sees it.

I hope we see the no BS Keefe this year and hold the players to a higher standard.

I really hope that all of this happens.

 

[Menzinger]

Nobody should have been surprised by this.

Shanny and Tre have been nothing but complimentary about Keefe all summer. If anything I'm surprised it took them this long.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The first thing Treliving has done that I don't like, at the same time I think it's something that would have happened regardless of GM so It's not something I'd dock marks for.

It's also not something that tells me he's fully secure It's 2 years not 6

 

[ICBM]

Keefe's signing is most likely related to Matthews signing. Keeping Keefe was his condition. Inmates are running the asylum. They want a coach that wouldn't bother them with 'gud pro' staff.

 

[tokyoite]

as expected.
terrible.
it's shanahan's fault.

 

[The Management]

Neat, ANOTHER year wasted. This core ain't getting any younger, AM's wrist any getting any healthier, JT ain't getting any quicker, and MM ain't asking for any less. The window is OPEN! DO SOMETHING! ANYTHING! This "wait and see" ship has unfurled its sails and is hull up.

I don't disagree, and didn't really even want to run it back last year. But these decisions aren't made in a vacuum and I find it helpful to try to understand why.

 

[AvroArrow]

Keefe's signing is most likely related to Matthews signing. Keeping Keefe was his condition. Inmates are running the asylum. They want a coach that wouldn't bother them with 'gud pro' staff.

Think it has more to do with avoiding distractions. The team/coach will be able to focus on the goal, not saving his job. Less media pressure and Keefe can just comfortably do his thing.

If it doesn't work out ? Hanta yo baby, get him out of there like we did with Ron Wilson after Burke had extended him (around Christmas time) We have the money, so we'll be ok. Some teams would be stuck with a guy when they're paying him, Toronto has the luxury of be able to replace the coach in an instant.

I'm alright with this extension, just let these guys focus on hockey and not the outside noise that comes from this shitty media group in Toronto.

 

[centipede2233]

So dubas has one playoff round win in 5 years, keefe has one playoff round in 4 years losing out to a worse team in 3 of those years (Columbus, Montreal and Florida) with likely the best talent this team has had in decades, and what happens…dubas gets a promotion and a 80% salary increase and keefe gets a multi year extension. Folks, you can’t make this up.

 

[Dreakmur]

Keefe's signing is most likely related to Matthews signing. Keeping Keefe was his condition. Inmates are running the asylum. They want a coach that wouldn't bother them with 'gud pro' staff.

It was either fire him or extend him. Letting him go into the season on the last year of his contract just handicaps him. Tre is giving the coach the best opportunity even if he doesn’t necessarily believe in him.

 

[Anthrax442]

It's the standard in any sport. you either fire the coach or you got to give him a bit of term. I don't get it. I doesn't make him immune though.

 

[Cor]

Ya’ll understand this doesn’t mean anything right?

Remember when Ron Wilson got extended and then fired two months later?

Wasn’t Carlyle extended not long before he was fired too?

 

[supermann_98]

Sheldon has the best winning percentage among Leafs coaches who have coached more than 10 games in a season. That’s still really impressive. Not really “opinion”

He was gifted a good team to start with, with the freedom to remove the shackles Babs had on them. Give me Shaq and Kobe in their primes for 4 years and I’d have the best winning percentage in Lakers history as a coach

 

[francis246]

He was gifted a good team to start with, with the freedom to remove the shackles Babs had on them. Give me Shaq and Kobe in their primes for 4 years and I’d have the best winning percentage in Lakers history as a coach

Being an actual coach myself I find it hilarious when people say shit like this. You’re not winning shit, I’d say 90% of this board doesn’t know shit all about coaching, implementing systems, motivating, not having the room tune you out or anything. (There’s a few who have coached hockey at a high level on here and have mentioned it as well so I’m sure they could, but the rest of y’all just need to quit it already you sound bitter) Go watch the game on your couch. There’s a reason Sheldon is in the NHL coaching and you’re not, cause you and I couldn’t come close to doing it.

 

[Torontonian]

Keefe's signing is most likely related to Matthews signing. Keeping Keefe was his condition. Inmates are running the asylum. They want a coach that wouldn't bother them with 'gud pro' staff.

By the time Dubas was fired and Treliving was hired, there's no better options on the market, I'd take Keefe over every coach thats been hired so far in the NHL this off season. (Babcock, Lavioette, Huska, Cronin, Brunette, Carbary, Tocchet).

If they were going to replace him, it should have been last year with either Monty or Cassidy, but hindsight is 20/20 after the seasons they had.

The extension means nothing to me, it's just money and something that won't be a distraction next season.

 

[The Masters]

It was either fire him or extend him. Letting him go into the season on the last year of his contract just handicaps him. Tre is giving the coach the best opportunity even if he doesn’t necessarily believe in him.

same situation with Shanny giving Randy Caryle his extension

I dont like Keefe but Tre is basically saving one of his bullets.

 

[Zybalto]

Being an actual coach myself I find it hilarious when people say shit like this. You’re not winning shit, I’d say 90% of this board doesn’t know shit all about coaching, implementing systems, motivating, not having the room tune you out or anything. (There’s a few who have coached hockey at a high level on here and have mentioned it as well so I’m sure they could, but the rest of y’all just need to quit it already you sound bitter) Go watch the game on your couch. There’s a reason Sheldon is in the NHL coaching and you’re not, cause you and I couldn’t come close to doing it.

Just look at a guy like Trotz who everyone agrees is a great coach.

It took him 11 years to get out of the first round and 18 years to get past the 2nd round while having some really good teams (7 100+ point teams) to coach.

Now he's a cup champ. Did he change his style his last 5 years?.....or did he finally get clutch playoff performances (especially from goaltending) his last half decade?

Coaching is just part of the equation and the numbers support that Keefe (who has the best win% in history among NHL coaches with 250+ games) is a good coach.

Let's see if Tre's depth solutions work better than Dubas' but the goaltending remains the thing that will probably hold us back right now IMO.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Ahhhh yes - the he's a coach for a reason and you're not defense

 

[TheOne]

Being an actual coach myself I find it hilarious when people say shit like this. You’re not winning shit, I’d say 90% of this board doesn’t know shit all about coaching, implementing systems, motivating, not having the room tune you out or anything. (There’s a few who have coached hockey at a high level on here and have mentioned it as well so I’m sure they could, but the rest of y’all just need to quit it already you sound bitter) Go watch the game on your couch. There’s a reason Sheldon is in the NHL coaching and you’re not, cause you and I couldn’t come close to doing it.

Neat, there's about to be a vacancy in Toronto. How soon can you start?

Just look at a guy like Trotz who everyone agrees is a great coach.

It took him 11 years to get out of the first round and 18 years to get past the 2nd round while having some really good teams (7 100+ point teams) to coach.

Now he's a cup champ. Did he change his style his last 5 years?.....or did he finally get clutch playoff performances (especially from goaltending) his last half decade?

Coaching is just part of the equation and the numbers support that Keefe (who has the best win% in history among NHL coaches with 250+ games) is a good coach.

Let's see if Tre's depth solutions work better than Dubas' but the goaltending remains the thing that will probably hold us back right now IMO.

Best win % in regulation season

 

[supermann_98]

Being an actual coach myself I find it hilarious when people say shit like this. You’re not winning shit, I’d say 90% of this board doesn’t know shit all about coaching, implementing systems, motivating, not having the room tune you out or anything. (There’s a few who have coached hockey at a high level on here and have mentioned it as well so I’m sure they could, but the rest of y’all just need to quit it already you sound bitter) Go watch the game on your couch. There’s a reason Sheldon is in the NHL coaching and you’re not, cause you and I couldn’t come close to doing it.

… “I find it hilarious but …..”

Gotta relax a bit, not everyone has to have the same opinion. As an actual coach yourself you probably have players who don’t agree with your methods too.

I have coached and I have taught, not hockey but other sports. I have also watched hockey since the early 80’s, I can tell when a coach influences his teams positively or negatively and to me Keefe has not shown any ability to be a difference maker, other than how many bench minors we got for too many men last year, which seemed like a nightly occurrence and is a direct reflection on his game management, which to me is just poor

 

[francis246]

Ahhhh yes - the he's a coach for a reason and you're not defense

How is that a defense? I don’t care about Sheldon. Don’t love him, but people on here who think they can do better, are straight up delusional. Whether you like a guy or not, it takes a lot to be an NHL head coach, the guy proved he can win at the AHL. He’s not the best coach out there but he’s not the worst. It’s the same 3 or 4 of you that think you’re smarter than everyone in hockey and you’d have this team a Stanley cup contender when you wouldn’t.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

There were quality coaches available earlier, didn't get any and now we're stuck with Keefe.... I get extending him to squash any potential distractions during the season. But this is tough to hear. Keefe's decision making in the playoffs is so bad it's comical.

 

[diceman934]

He will not last out his term..
Gone this coming off season.. he needs to make adjustments on the fly and he struggled when he needed to do this. Perhaps he can be better when the games matter. Hard to watch when he is getting his show ran by other coaches

 

[ACC1224]

He should have been fired after the Montreal series, IMO.

Unless things change, he will go down as the leader of the biggest underachievers in Leaf history.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Keefe's signing is most likely related to Matthews signing. Keeping Keefe was his condition. Inmates are running the asylum. They want a coach that wouldn't bother them with 'gud pro' staff.

Funny you mention that .
I found it odd after Tavares scored the series winner against Tampa Matthews stayed on the bench, presumably looking to celebrate with the coaches while the others jumped onto the ice to celebrate with their teammates.
That in no way confirms your assertion but it sure seemed weird to me when I watched it.

 

[TheProspector]

Keefe's signing is most likely related to Matthews signing. Keeping Keefe was his condition. Inmates are running the asylum. They want a coach that wouldn't bother them with 'gud pro' staff.

thank christ