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leafsfan5
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#226
f*** the core
Only redeemable players are Rielly and Nylander. The rest don't have it and never will. I don't care about how many scoring chances they generated. They don't score when it matters
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#227
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I wonder if they got mad respect in the handshake line
If Keefe gets another job interview he can cite the respect in the handshake line and that he prediction Kerfoot would score an important goal while being useless in nearly every other game.
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That was a bad pass to him. Lilly had option on the other side
Lilly chose the wrong situation to take a risk. I have serious doubts about his ability to be a regular NHL dman. Regularly gets knocked off the puck by forecheckers.
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They always find a way to make it hurt, eh? I was expecting nothing and sadly still started to believe after Willie's goal.
You could say that they deserved better, you can say that Florida got the bounces and calls, you can say that Bobrovsky stole the series, all of that is true. Just like it was true against Montréal, Columbus, and Tampa last year.
At some point, you just have to get the job done and they didn't. Offence went dry when it mattered, just like in those past series (2G or less in 7 straight games). Defence coughed up the puck at bad times, just like those past series. Special teams stopped working, just like in those past series (remember the 2PPs in the 1st tonight?). Effort was lacking at key points, just like in those past series.
Nothing has changed with this core, with this team. One can only hope that the illusion of getting beat down by the Lightning and fluking out a series win does not serve use an excuse for the drastic changes needed this off-season.
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#230
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In the Playoffs the dump ins increase, the puck battles increase and the scoring chances from rush plays go down.
Matthews and Marner haven't shown to be able to consistently produce offensively in the big games or big moments.
We battled hard these playoffs and for stretchs it didn't look pretty but at the end of the day your main difference makers need to come through if you want to win 4 hard playoff series and ours didn't.
Feels crazy to say it but I think a Matthews trade should certainly be a topic that is discussed when you factor in his soon to be UFA status.
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Matthews’ playoff performances and his injury history make it pretty easy for me to want to move on.
He could be a winner but he needs a lot more support around him to thrive. And how can you do that at the salary he’ll command plus the injury history he’s had.
Size never lets elite players get in their way … well marner has proved the opposite.
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#231
damn that really sucks
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Broke the first round curse, played well in an attemped comeback but in the end their 2 top 10m+ players underperformed in the most crucial moments... I'm not including Tavares here, he is what he is (faded & overpaid).
Changes need to be looked at between Keefe, Marner & especially Matthews.
2? Try 3.
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Really tough to get rid of JT.
It has to change.
I am ok with Dubus staying.
Keefe has to go. At least one of the core has to go.
Rielly stays. Maybe Willy. Although it's probably him that ends up being moved.
Can't happen. Just just happen
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All respect to Woll. Imagine the pressure a game like this. Most sad for him.
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On the bright side Knies and Woll are legit.
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Keefe didn't have this team ready to go in game one and they weren't ready to win game 2 as well.
Game 3 and 5 were not where it should have been effort wise.
Keefe is gone.
I didn't think tonight was a lack of effort. The first 3 games they weren't prepared for what Florida was bringing and that definitely is on the coaches.
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Why didn't they challenge that? That should have been a penalty on a pick to knock the defenseman down. The leafs had a goal called back on the same play against the Lightening
Youre dealing with Keefe. The dudes like 90iq ok
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#238
The nightmare which is the Dubas Era is over.
I hate seeing my team go down, but I just never cared for this version of the leafs. The Gilmour Leafs and the Sundin Leafs were something special. You really wanted them to achieve big things.
This "Big 4" group are not so likeable.
A re-tool and we'll see how things go.
There are already some good future pieces to be excited about.
Tough Luck Leaf Fans, but things can only look brighter...tomorrow.
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good for you
nothing beats Muskoka though, paradise that place. zoomers, especially, love it
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#240
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Go troll somewhere else asshole
You'll have to be more specific.
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Dubas and Keefe will be gone. If there is a way to trade Tavares I would, even if we have to retain salary for 2 seasons. Make Morgan Rielly the captain. Realistically this team on paper was good enough to win the cup, but when your top players get no goals, you won't win. Matthews at least had some chances. Tavares was pretty bad.
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#242
Does anyone still think that these guys are contenders
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#243
Willy was really good in these playoffs. They need a few heavier skilled forwards and bunch of D.
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#244
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I don't understand this. That buffoon gave a 40 year old Marleau the most ice-time in a game 7.
You can see why, what has giving MM and AM tons of ice time done? Babcock knew this was a flawed core.
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I'm actually excited to see what the new GM will get for AM and MM
I'm hoping for a rebuild I don't want to do what Calgary did
7 straight games of 2 goals or less. SEVEN
Edit: Dubas is completely wrong, Size and Physicality >>>> Speed and Skill in the playoffs
Click to expand...Florida is faster than us???
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#246
Trade Matthews if he won't resign at a reasonable price. He's not worth 14-15 million. Not for what we saw tonight. Need to get back a high potential defenseman. Woll looked really solid tonight. Build around that.
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I thought Reilly sucked this year but when the playoffs hit he suddenly became the f***ing true leader of this team. What a beast. That’s a bright spot at least. Plus Knies and Woll will be really good before too long.
Rielly is the lone member of the core who truly wants to win. He's actually willing take and hand out punishment to win.
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Refs and the league suck but at the end of the day I think it's clear this group doesn't have enough in the tank to push through in the playoffs. I didn't think the Panthers played much better than your average second round team and the Leafs weren't able to push through. Offence can't create, defence loses battles up and down the ice, and all they had was their rookie goaltender to bail them out.
Need to see a vastly different look next season.
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#249
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I haven’t really kept up with the leafs in a couple of years. Is the temperature here really that matthews and marner should be gone, or just emotions running high rn.
Good timing for your comeback, maybe not the best time for bandwagon fans to ask suck questions.
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Go troll somewhere else asshole
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Never mention marner abd Matthews in the same breath as Draisaitl
They compare to Hyman or RNH maybe
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Well f***. Honestly though I thought the team played a great game, were the better team by a wide margin, just didn’t get the bounces (or the calls). And for the series as a whole, really every game could have gone either way, all down to the wire.
This is the first playoffs with this group where I thought we played very well. Tampa and Florida are both strong teams, both series were super even. We got the bounces vs. Tampa, didn’t get them vs. Florida. I was on team “blow it up” after the Columbus and Montreal series, but honestly this year we played well IMO.
I’d fire Keefe, and make some changes to the roster, but certainly wouldn’t blow it up.
Click to expand...That’s the game I watched tonight, too.
They need a little more skilled toughness up front and some D.
Looks like they got a goalie tandem.
I wouldn’t bring Bunting back, his antics have run there course and I thought he was out of his league in this series.
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Trade Matthews if he won't resign at a reasonable price
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