GDT: Leafs @ Devils - Dec 10th 7PM

[ACC1224]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="x.com">#Leafs</a> have activated Max Domi from injured reserve ahead of his anticipated return from injury. To make room on the 23-man roster, the club has sent Nikita Grebenkin down to the Marlies.<a href="https://t.co/uLwi3zUW78">https://t.co/uLwi3zUW78</a></p>&mdash; David Alter (@dalter) <a href="">December 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not a Domi fan but this is good news none the less. I know he's a good interview but Grebenkin is far better suited getting ice time with the Marlies.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Pretty crazy with McCabe. Seemed he was going to be back a week ago, then Bob MacKenzie reported he would play tonight along with Domi. Seems there have been some setbacks with him.

Our defense clearly shows how important he is for us. Our new Muzzin

 

[TMLAM34]

Really liked Grebenkin but he’d definitely benefit by playing more with the Marlies. Glad to have Domi back.

 

[Racer88]

Not really. Most understand that more factors into team success than the quality of two of its players together. That doesn't mean you can't acknowledge the quality of the duo.
That duo has a 66.7 GF% at 5v5 in the playoffs. They aren't the issue.

They maybe they aren’t directly the issue but the cap amount they have taken certainly have been an issue the last number of years.
One final point. Just to be clear you will admit that the Leafs could win a cup with out either matthews or Marner or both if the roster was adjusted properly.

 

[arso40]

They maybe they aren’t directly the issue but the cap amount they have taken certainly have been an issue the last number of years.
One final point. Just to be clear you will admit that the Leafs could win a cup with out either matthews or Marner or both if the roster was adjusted properly.

When a quarter of the cap is in two forwards playing together you better be winning your minutes by a fair margin. They don’t produce how they need to together might as well keep them apart to make 4 other players better

 

[wingman75]

The starts in the last couple games have been dreadful. On their heels, chasing the opponent. Would love to see a strong first 5 minutes where we put the pressure on the opponent and our goalie doesn't have to make a 10-beller out of the gate.

Not sure what to make of the lines. I'd still prefer Marner and Matthews on different lines, but whatever. This can work too.

Would be nice for Matthews to show up and dominate a few shifts.

And finally, hoping for a McCabeless D to find a way to survive another game.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Is that what is holding us back?

It sucks we didn't win last year when they were split up (arguably our worst series), we also lost in 2019, 2018, and 2017.

It looks like they've played apart as much as together.

But, if we split them up, that'll help us win, it is only logical based on history (it's not).

Times they got out of the first round:
0/4 apart
1/4 together

The narratives that are pushed are never backed by logic.



That is a huge argument by a lot on these boards... I would have singled you out if I thought it was you.

Also, Matthews' PPG probably drops the most.

Nylander's would, but he never puts up big points in the regular season outside of the last couple of years.

Clearly the fact that our two best players missed 5 games between them and our best goalie was injured had nothing to do with having "arguably our worst series", in which we still made it to OT in game 7.

If you look at playoff production compared to regular season for the big four, I seem to recall that JT had the biggest % dropoff, followed by Mitch and Matty, with Willy having the least, by a lot. (But that doesn't fit your notbias, does it?)

 

[verdi]

I got a bad feeling. Lost to Dubas. Time to lose to Keefe.
I reverse jinx the Leafs.
Good luck guys.

 

[notbias]

Clearly the fact that our two best players missed 5 games between them and our best goalie was injured had nothing to do with having "arguably our worst series", in which we still made it to OT in game 7.

If you look at playoff production compared to regular season for the big four, I seem to recall that JT had the biggest % dropoff, followed by Mitch and Matty, with Willy having the least, by a lot. (But that doesn't fit your notbias, does it?)

Woll is the only reason it went to 7, that is correct.

Are we taking injuries into account? Can we excuse the Montreal series now or any series any of the star players played injured? Sounds good to me.

And yes, out of Marner, Matthews, and Nylander, Nylander has been the worst performer in the playoffs and regular season, this is correct, but his dropoff is not as big as the others because his regular season is not great.

I was discussing the drop-off of Marner and Matthews when playing together, which is a lot less, but no one seems to want to discuss that because it is against the narrative that they are not good together.

You conveniently stopped reading at that part I guess.

Anyway, what are you arguing?

 

[Niagara Bill]

Clearly the fact that our two best players missed 5 games between them and our best goalie was injured had nothing to do with having "arguably our worst series", in which we still made it to OT in game 7.

If you look at playoff production compared to regular season for the big four, I seem to recall that JT had the biggest % dropoff, followed by Mitch and Matty, with Willy having the least, by a lot. (But that doesn't fit your notbias, does it?)

I am sorry, but these issues were all solved when we got the new dressing room dance music from Reevo. I recall how this was going to have the most positive affect.Please someone get the man a new bose system. Or we could just play some Stomping Tom.

 

[DarkKnight]

I admit it really bothered me that Matthews suddenly turned it on when Berube put him with Marner. Marner looked good with JT and was even carrying BlackHolmberg's carcass around, but Matthews was disinterested, so we made a change. Bingo, banjo, he pots two immediately and the line is back. He said last week Marner is the one "you want to play with" on the team, which is both complimentary but also instructive. Look who Sundin used to play with? Matthews needs to wear the C and make it happen, on his own, when it matters. When is the last time the team has played poorly and it's Matthews that puts the team on his back, with a burr in his saddle?

The two together are great. But it's why they seem to need to be together that is concerning to me.

 

[notbias]

I admit it really bothered me that Matthews suddenly turned it on when Berube put him with Marner. Marner looked good with JT and was even carrying BlackHolmberg's carcass around, but Matthews was disinterested, so we made a change. Bingo, banjo, he pots two immediately and the line is back. He said last week Marner is the one "you want to play with" on the team, which is both complimentary but also instructive. Look who Sundin used to play with? Matthews needs to wear the C and make it happen, on his own, when it matters. When is the last time the team has played poorly and it's Matthews that puts the team on his back, with a burr in his saddle?

The two together are great. But it's why they seem to need to be together that is concerning to me

Do you think players choose when to score?

So the last couple of games Matthews looked worse than his normal self because he wants to be taken off the line with Marner or something?

What are these takes?

 

[LeafParade]

Once McMann and Kampf are back, they will have to eject two more forwards from the starting lineup and it will not be Minten.

 

[DarkKnight]

Once McMann and Kampf are back, they will have to eject two more forwards from the starting lineup and it will not be Minten.

Reavo and Holmberg.

 

[1specter]

Clearly the fact that our two best players missed 5 games between them and our best goalie was injured had nothing to do with having "arguably our worst series", in which we still made it to OT in game 7.

If you look at playoff production compared to regular season for the big four, I seem to recall that JT had the biggest % dropoff, followed by Mitch and Matty, with Willy having the least, by a lot. (But that doesn't fit your notbias, does it?)

I blocked that dude and it's improved my experience here immensely

 

[DarkKnight]

I blocked that dude and it's improved my experience here immensely

Ditto, meaningless noise.

 

[notbias]

I blocked that dude and it's improved my experience here immensely

Ditto bruh, meaningless noise.

The amount of people that need a safe space on this board is hilarious.

Grown men being scared of words is sad.

Reavo and Holmberg.

Why do people pretend like Lorentz has been good recently?

After his hot start, he has regressed a lot.

Still a serviceable 4th liner, but I don't know if he is a top 12 forward for us.

 

[DarkKnight]

The Grebenkin call up went better than expected. He wasn't going to stick, but now we know we have a very close option percolating on the farm, getting big minutes and destined to return. Went perfect really big picture.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Woll is the only reason it went to 7, that is correct.

Are we taking injuries into account? Can we excuse the Montreal series now or any series any of the star players played injured? Sounds good to me.

And yes, out of Marner, Matthews, and Nylander, Nylander has been the worst performer in the playoffs and regular season, this is correct, but his dropoff is not as big as the others because his regular season is not great.

I was discussing the drop-off of Marner and Matthews when playing together, which is a lot less, but no one seems to want to discuss that because it is against the narrative that they are not good together.

You conveniently stopped reading at that part I guess.

Anyway, what are you arguing?

It's getting harder and harder to take anything you say seriously. First you post stats that seem made up and you can't explain where they came from, the you make up things that I never said and now this.

It would seem that this guy knows what he's doing (he was referring to you in case you missed it):

I blocked that dude and it's improved my experience here immensely

The amount of people that need a safe space on this board is hilarious.

Grown men being scared of words is sad.

I'm pretty sure that the people that have blocked you aren't scared of anything, they just find that your posts are a complete waste of time. I have a pretty high tolerance for nonsense myself, but I definitely understand where they're coming from and may well join them at some point.

 

[thusk]

Really liked Grebenkin but he’d definitely benefit by playing more with the Marlies. Glad to have Domi back.

hes a goos forechecker but outside of this part of the game, jhe bring nothing more right now so its just normal he going back in AHL. Maybe in the futur he will be able to replace a guy like mcmann

 

[Gary Nylund]

Just take the P/GP for the series that they played with and without each other... it's as simple as that, I mentioned this already.

And you still haven't provided a source, just vague, incomplete nonsense. You've posted made up stats before, today you made up stuff that I've never said so how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Good luck.

 

[notbias]

And you still haven't provided a source, just vague, incomplete nonsense. You've posted made up stats before, today you made up stuff that I've never said so how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Good luck.

I told you Moneypuck and nhl.com, do the work yourself, that's what I did.

It is super simple to find this information and I gave you the sources before, a child could figure this out.

Which stats did I post that were made up before?

 

[crump]

Looks like he's back forsure

We’ll miss Grebenkin’s cheaky play. Let’s hope Domi is ready to play a manful meaningful role again.

 

[Dekes For Days]

They maybe they aren’t directly the issue but the cap amount they have taken certainly have been an issue the last number of years.

Not really. They've provided surplus value on their contracts over the last number of years.

One final point. Just to be clear you will admit that the Leafs could win a cup with out either matthews or Marner or both if the roster was adjusted properly.

It's possible to win a cup without Matthews and/or Marner. But removing either or both from our team would be detrimental and hurt our chance at a cup. There is no realistic better alternative.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I told you Moneypuck and nhl.com, do the work yourself, that's what I did.

It is super simple to find this information and I gave you the sources before, a child could figure this out.

Which stats did I post that were made up before?

You sources were insufficient and your explanations vague. I already explained why that is and I'm not going to waste my time repeating myself.

Hopefully the Leafs put forth a lot more effort tonight than you're putting into your posts. GLG!!