Proposal: Leafs Big contract move

[JoeSakic13]

He’s not going anywhere.

I do love how just out of frame is a Naboo Starfighter. Thus truly hammering home how high quality of taste he has.

 

[Srsly]

The only way JT waives is if he wants a cup and doesn’t see the Leafs competing. Anyone in win now mode can’t afford his contract without sending back another huge contract. The Leafs under performed in the playoffs but it wasnt bad enough for him to consider the ship has sailed either. I don’t think moving him is realistic.

 

[BruinsBtn]

John Tavares is 30 years old. His contract ends when he is 34, a few months before his 35th birthday.

To date, he has been paid 52.24 out of the 77m in his contract. He is owed an average of 6.19m over the rest of his four years. After playing this year for the Leafs, he will be owed 7.95m per year for the final full three years.

John Tavares is still a #1C in the NHL and a good one at that. It is very funny reading about how it would take cap dumps coming back to get rid of him. Unfortunately for you guys, our cap situation does not actually mean that we're going to be handing out a #1C for scraps to some other team.

Our cap situation may be whack, but we're not going to get rid of an All-Star player for cheap.

He has an NMC. If he agrees to waive it, it will be a Taylor Hall-style situation where there's basically only one place he wants to go.

You think the guy is just going to say: "I'll waive for everywhere, start a bidding war"?

Give your head a shake if you think there would be any decent return. At best, he would offer a few teams where he'd accept a trade to in his final year at the deadline.

 

[belair]

I think the Coyotes have the pieces to make a favorable offer for Auston Matthews. I think the team has to think long and hard about the potential fallout of losing Morgan Reilly knowing full well there's no guarantee their star center doesn't head to the US as a free agent three years from now.

Tavares and Marner are in it for the long haul in all likelihood, being from the area and you're probably not getting top dollar for either of them. Nylander's a winger, too, so the return isn't great there either. So what's the alternative?

 

[T REX]

No way JT waives. Marner is odd man out unless AZ makes you an offer you just can't refuse.

Who woulda thunk at the time that signing Tavares was the Leafs death warrant.

Total bust. And because of opportunity costs...it ruined any chance of the Leafs winning anything of import for the life of the contract.

Yes...splash signing but not what the team needed long term.

One of the biggest FA blunders in teh history of the NHL in hindsight,

 

[benedictTavares]

This thread is my spirit animal.

 

[Whileee]

I don't see JT or any of the other "big 4" being traded.

This is the Leafs Cup window, and this is their core. They are built around a couple of franchise centers that were #1 overall picks, along with 2 other top 5 picks and a top 10 pick. It's a strong core and very difficult to replicate this type of opportunity.

Will this core be good enough? I think they might, though they've limited their potential by squeezing their cap space.

One area that they've left to chance is goaltending. It was reasonable to bet on Andersen, but he didn't pan out. Are Campbell and Mrazek capable of winning a Cup? Maybe, but there are big question marks, and the window won't stay open for much longer, particularly if Tavares declines as expected based on age.

 

[Whileee]

Auston Matthews Will not be traded at all.

William Nylander was our best forward in the playoffs and one of the most consistant regular season. His contract is the most affordable and its the best contract out of our big players. Nylander is a no go

John Tavares has a No move , Why would he waive he chose to join the leafs. His contract makes him pretty close to a cap dump. Not alot of teams can afford a 11 Mill 30 year old center . If he choses to get traded expect a very under whelming return


Mitch Marner is the only player that make sense to trade hes young his contract is about 2 millish over paid but still manageable for a team .

On a plus note.

cap is going up 1-1.5 M next year and kessles contract is expired so the Retention is coming off the books .

the leafs will have 2.7M more in cap space next year

Rielly takes that cap space, and if Campbell is any good he'll need a notable raise (if he's not, that's not good).

 

[Fatass]

No way JT waives. Marner is odd man out unless AZ makes you an offer you just can't refuse.

Who woulda thunk at the time that signing Tavares was the Leafs death warrant.

Total bust. And because of opportunity costs...it ruined any chance of the Leafs winning anything of import for the life of the contract.

Yes...splash signing but not what the team needed long term.

One of the biggest FA blunders in teh history of the NHL in hindsight,

I think the JT signing was fine. But Marner should have then been traded for a young high end D man.

 

[samsagat]

Toronto would get the moon for AM.

And from what I have seen from him, my humble opinion here, TO will never win anything with him.

As far as I'm concerned he looks like the typical selfish own stats watcher.

#1 priority himself
#2 priority his goal/pts total
#3 priority his contract
#4 priority... mmmm himself?

Priority #2881236655 collective success...

Trading him would plug Toronto's holes and clean the dressing room...

Again, my humble opinion .. you might not agree and it's ok with me...

 

[Matty Sundin]

If they wanna move a big contract then Marner would be their guy to move.

 

[T_Cage]

No way JT waives. Marner is odd man out unless AZ makes you an offer you just can't refuse.

Who woulda thunk at the time that signing Tavares was the Leafs death warrant.

Total bust. And because of opportunity costs...it ruined any chance of the Leafs winning anything of import for the life of the contract.

Yes...splash signing but not what the team needed long term.

One of the biggest FA blunders in teh history of the NHL in hindsight ,

Jeff Skinner says Hi

 

[mydnyte]

I think the Coyotes have the pieces to make a favorable offer for Auston Matthews. I think the team has to think long and hard about the potential fallout of losing Morgan Reilly knowing full well there's no guarantee their star center doesn't head to the US as a free agent three years from now.

Tavares and Marner are in it for the long haul in all likelihood, being from the area and you're probably not getting top dollar for either of them. Nylander's a winger, too, so the return isn't great there either. So what's the alternative?

maybe in 2 years if they will, if they get lucky enough to draft Bedard, because, thats the type of 'prospect' you need to get a player the caliber of Matthews.
a bunch of decent/good pieces will not get a superstar caliber player.

 

[mydnyte]

No way JT waives. Marner is odd man out unless AZ makes you an offer you just can't refuse.

Who woulda thunk at the time that signing Tavares was the Leafs death warrant.

Total bust. And because of opportunity costs...it ruined any chance of the Leafs winning anything of import for the life of the contract.

Yes...splash signing but not what the team needed long term.

One of the biggest FA blunders in teh history of the NHL in hindsight,

ironic, since Tavares would be the #1C on almost 2/3rds of the teams in the NHL.
He's still easily in the top 10-15 range

 

[Pyrophorus]

Heard it soo many times before....*yawn*

 

[Pyrophorus]

Rielly takes that cap space, and if Campbell is any good he'll need a notable raise (if he's not, that's not good).

We'll trade Captain Morgan
This is his last season as a Leaf.

 

[OilersCoffeeArtBeer]

Nylander or marner are gonna be the ones traded. Tavares isn't waiving to go anywhere.
Marner should be the one to go because of the idiotic cap hit.

Marner to Calgary for Tkachuk +
Yes Tkachuk has a high qualifying number but he won't be as expensive as marner.
I can see Tkachuk settling for 7.5 x 7

 

[Pyrophorus]

Nylander or marner are gonna be the ones traded. Tavares isn't waiving to go anywhere.
Marner should be the one to go because of the idiotic cap hit.

Marner to Calgary for Tkachuk +
Yes Tkachuk has a high qualifying number but he won't be as expensive as marner.
I can see Tkachuk settling for 7.5 x 7

Who scores exactly same in the playoffs.

 

[samsagat]

Who scores exactly same in the playoffs.

At least Tkachuk brings some grit..

 

[T REX]

I think the JT signing was fine. But Marner should have then been traded for a young high end D man.

When should he have been traded?

 

[Fatass]

When should he have been traded?

After JT, and before his new contract.

 

[hotpaws]

JT has to go for the Leafs to improve and before people clue in that he's grossly overrated .

he wouldn't be the first nor will he be the last player with an nmc traded and cool story about him and his jammies but why are people acting like they were some type of custom made one off that no one else has . lol . i'm sure everyone on this site can pull pictures of themselves or there kids in team gear so having bed sheets as a kid doesn't make JT some Leaf super fan

 

[LombardiTool]

The Leafs are going to be in CAP trouble for the next few years. They need to resign Rielly ($7-8 mil per year), Campbell ($2.5-3 mil), and fill out a roster that looks like more than spare parts outside the top 6 (could even say top 4) and top 3 D. The Leafs have also been trading away almost every draft pick we own.

The Leafs could use an upgrade on Def, restock picks and retool the lineup so it is not just stop the Top 4.

The Leafs should trade one of the big 3 contracts Matthews, Marner, or Tavares. In my opinion Tavares would be the one leaving the core group. This would give the Leafs the opportunity to spread the money out and the opportunity to dangle the "C" for Matthews to re-sign longer with a lower CAP hit once the current contract is up in 23-24.

Assuming Tavares waivers his no move.

To Toronto:
Miles Wood
Damon Severson
1st

To NJ:
John Tavares
Ilya Mikheyev

Or

To Toronto:
Neal Pionk
Cole Perfetti

To Jets:
John Tavares

Disgruntled Leaf fan floating ideas.

 

[T REX]

I don't see JT or any of the other "big 4" being traded.

This is the Leafs Cup window, and this is their core. They are built around a couple of franchise centers that were #1 overall picks, along with 2 other top 5 picks and a top 10 pick. It's a strong core and very difficult to replicate this type of opportunity.

Will this core be good enough? I think they might, though they've limited their potential by squeezing their cap space.

One area that they've left to chance is goaltending. It was reasonable to bet on Andersen, but he didn't pan out. Are Campbell and Mrazek capable of winning a Cup? Maybe, but there are big question marks, and the window won't stay open for much longer, particularly if Tavares declines as expected based on age.

This core has proven they are not good enough. How much more proof do you need?

It doesn't help that there are a bunch of teams better than Toronto as well.

 

[Pyrophorus]

At least Tkachuk brings some grit..

We have enough.