Rumor: Leafs and Oilers will not be looking for a Goalie at the Trade Deadline

[Jumptheshark]

From oilers perspective. The asking price for C level goalies is too high

 

[LevelingSolo]

Can't be too confident in their hopes of a long playoff run then particularly with Edmonton, this could cost Holland his job

 

[BAdvocate]

I don't know why the Maple Leafs would be looking for help when they have Carter Hutton.

 

[UrbanImpact]

From oilers perspective. The asking price for C level goalies is too high

Imagine being Mcdavid and hearing you didnt want to trade a 4th rounder to get a bit of insurance.

 

[TFHockey]

Rumor: Leafs and Oilers will not be looking for a goalie at this year's trade deadline.

Fact: Leafs and Oilers will not be advancing past the 1st round of this year's playoffs. Oilers might even not make the playoffs alltl togethet

They'll probably get in. Tight race but they've been playing well over the past ten games since Woodcroft came in. The lost to Tampa Bay, sure, but they outplayed the Lightning. They beat Florida while being outplayed. They lost a close 2-1 decision to Carolina after playing a lot of back to back games to make up for lost Covid time.

They should make it. Out in the first round? Maybe so if Holland doesn't fix the holes that remain in the line up.

 

[seanlinden]

To be fair... from Toronto's perspective, who's realistically available that is a clear upgrade on Campbell/Mrazek?

Fleury is the obvious choice, but he may not want to come here, and after that, it really is slim pickings.

Take a look at the top 25 goalies by save percentage, amongst guys with at least 15 starts (Campbell ranks 14th right now):

Player	Team	GS	Sv%
Igor Shesterkin	NYR	34	0.94
Ville Husso	STL	20	0.931
Frederik Andersen	CAR	37	0.93
Jeremy Swayman	BOS	23	0.929
Jacob Markstrom	CGY	42	0.927
Jake Oettinger	DAL	25	0.922
Juuse Saros	NSH	45	0.922
Ilya Sorokin	NYI	36	0.922
Andrei Vasilevskiy	TBL	41	0.921
Tristan Jarry	PIT	41	0.921
Darcy Kuemper	COL	38	0.919
Thatcher Demko	VAN	41	0.918
Anthony Stolarz	ANA	15	0.917
Jack Campbell	TOR	37	0.917
Anton Forsberg	OTT	22	0.917
Kaapo Kahkonen	MIN	19	0.917
James Reimer	SJS	33	0.916
Vitek Vanecek	WSH	23	0.915
Sergei Bobrovsky	FLA	37	0.915
Matt Murray	OTT	19	0.915
Braden Holtby	DAL	21	0.912
Carter Hart	PHI	33	0.912
Connor Hellebuyck	WPG	45	0.912
John Gibson	ANA	39	0.911

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Who are you realistically going to add? Anton Forsberg? James Reimer? Braden Holtby?

 

[Djp]

Has Koskinen's recent hot run taken away doubt for Holland to try and get a goalie.

Toronto is confident that Campbell is just in a funk?

Goaltending can easily sink any team in the post-season, this is a gamble gamble for both teams imo

Boeing engineers said the 737 max didn’t have a single point of failure….

 

[Just a Fan]

To be fair... from Toronto's perspective, who's realistically available that is a clear upgrade on Campbell/Mrazek?

Fleury is the obvious choice, but he may not want to come here, and after that, it really is slim pickings.

Take a look at the top 25 goalies by save percentage, amongst guys with at least 15 starts (Campbell ranks 14th right now):

Player	Team	GS	Sv%
Igor Shesterkin	NYR	34	0.94
Ville Husso	STL	20	0.931
Frederik Andersen	CAR	37	0.93
Jeremy Swayman	BOS	23	0.929
Jacob Markstrom	CGY	42	0.927
Jake Oettinger	DAL	25	0.922
Juuse Saros	NSH	45	0.922
Ilya Sorokin	NYI	36	0.922
Andrei Vasilevskiy	TBL	41	0.921
Tristan Jarry	PIT	41	0.921
Darcy Kuemper	COL	38	0.919
Thatcher Demko	VAN	41	0.918
Anthony Stolarz	ANA	15	0.917
Jack Campbell	TOR	37	0.917
Anton Forsberg	OTT	22	0.917
Kaapo Kahkonen	MIN	19	0.917
James Reimer	SJS	33	0.916
Vitek Vanecek	WSH	23	0.915
Sergei Bobrovsky	FLA	37	0.915
Matt Murray	OTT	19	0.915
Braden Holtby	DAL	21	0.912
Carter Hart	PHI	33	0.912
Connor Hellebuyck	WPG	45	0.912
John Gibson	ANA	39	0.911

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Who are you realistically going to add? Anton Forsberg? James Reimer? Braden Holtby?

You mean we can’t get Shesterkin?? Dammit….

 

[Taylorst]

Who's got a goalie that would improve their positions? Is that goalie available? Does that goalie want to leave his current situation? I think it's quite likely both clubs made calls around the league and found the market not to their liking.

This is my take , trading for a goalie at the deadline is generally not something a true contender does or a team that is close. The only goalie worth going after is MAF his experience and record gives teams more confidence in taking that risk. However 2 things one it sounds like he will simply finish out the season in Chicago, unless something changes that signal Sent to the league imo made teams rethink going after a goalie. Plus when MAF came to Chicago his first month or so was rough new team and that would be common for any goalie moving to a new team enough time to settle in and regain there focus and confidence...

 

[Jumptheshark]

Imagine being Mcdavid and hearing you didnt want to trade a 4th rounder to get a bit of insurance.

Oilers do not need insurance. They need a legit goalie who just does not show flashes of being good.

The asking price for goalies who are not better than we have is a joke

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Imagine being Mcdavid and hearing you didnt want to trade a 4th rounder to get a bit of insurance.

It's the norm for him...

 

[GirardSpinorama]

We'll have to see at the deadline because I don't think Holland thinks Koskinen is suddenly a good goalie. That said, some people here think McDavid is gonna be disappointed or has any say in the trade deadline. I don't think he does. If he did, that's a bigger problem than even goaltending. To have a GM that makes decisions based on the request of one player.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Also this thread should be tagged as speculation. It is not a rumor. Chris Johnston did not say he has heard anything rumors. He speculated.

 

[nergish]

I can't stand either team, but I guess that means no Cup in Canada for another year...

Don't say Calgary.

 

[TheScandal89]

Call me crazy but I think Dubas would be interested in Matt Murray if Ottawa retained to around 3-3.5 mil,vbecause we all know he loves his grey hounds. Unless Ottawa wants to keep him now that his play has improved. But I do recall him being waived earlier.

Not saying its what I want or anything, just seems like a Dubas move, when he's lost he looks to the grey hound alumni.

 

[Roof Daddy]

Imagine being Mcdavid and hearing you didnt want to trade a 4th rounder to get a bit of insurance.

The same McDavid who - when interviewed at the All-Star game and asked who's an unsung hero for the Oilers, answered "Koskinen," that same McDavid?

I'm not denying that our goaltending has been well below average for the year, but the players actually like Koskinen and believe in him (regardless of fan's opinions) and Koskinen has proven capable to go on runs of stellar play (which he currently appears to be on). Will that fizzle out before the playoffs? Quite possibly, but Mike Smith has also proven capable of going on a run (doesn't look like it this season, but stranger things have happened).

Last year everyone hated Kosko and praised Mike Smith; the year before that, the reverse was true. We need the stars to align, but both can up their games. Incredibly uncomfortable to rely on something like a goalie going on a heater, but not every team can have the luxury of putting a Vasilevsky in net 65 times a year.

If we're tossing a 1st + prospect into a package, I'd much rather do it for a Dman than a goalie. I just don't see a goalie that is realistically available that is a considerable upgrade.

MAF ain't waiving for here.
Gibson I can't imagine is available.
Holtby is on a team we're fighting with for a playoff spot.
Varlamov is a maybe, but I think he's a good mentor for Sorokin and I think the Isles plan on writing off this season and going right back to being competitive next year.
Reimer? Craig Anderson? Maybe marginal improvements, but I'd just as soon rely on the "heater" strategy.

 

[Hockeylife2018]

Everyone said the price went up for Edmonton because everyone knew we needed a goalie....this is just Holland trying to lower the price...

 

[weinsink]

To be fair... from Toronto's perspective, who's realistically available that is a clear upgrade on Campbell/Mrazek?

Fleury is the obvious choice, but he may not want to come here, and after that, it really is slim pickings.

Take a look at the top 25 goalies by save percentage, amongst guys with at least 15 starts (Campbell ranks 14th right now):

Player	Team	GS	Sv%
Igor Shesterkin	NYR	34	0.94
Ville Husso	STL	20	0.931
Frederik Andersen	CAR	37	0.93
Jeremy Swayman	BOS	23	0.929
Jacob Markstrom	CGY	42	0.927
Jake Oettinger	DAL	25	0.922
Juuse Saros	NSH	45	0.922
Ilya Sorokin	NYI	36	0.922
Andrei Vasilevskiy	TBL	41	0.921
Tristan Jarry	PIT	41	0.921
Darcy Kuemper	COL	38	0.919
Thatcher Demko	VAN	41	0.918
Anthony Stolarz	ANA	15	0.917
Jack Campbell	TOR	37	0.917
Anton Forsberg	OTT	22	0.917
Kaapo Kahkonen	MIN	19	0.917
James Reimer	SJS	33	0.916
Vitek Vanecek	WSH	23	0.915
Sergei Bobrovsky	FLA	37	0.915
Matt Murray	OTT	19	0.915
Braden Holtby	DAL	21	0.912
Carter Hart	PHI	33	0.912
Connor Hellebuyck	WPG	45	0.912
John Gibson	ANA	39	0.911

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Who are you realistically going to add? Anton Forsberg? James Reimer? Braden Holtby?

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[bruins4thecup65]

You can’t win a cup without world class goaltending. Neither team currently has that.

 

[Jerkbait]

Obviously Toronto isn't. Not shocking the Oilers are not as they may or many not make playoffs. Short of Gibson, a healthy price or MAF, a goalie isn't gonna to help enough to win a round

 

[Just a Fan]

The laughs...keep the tradition alive in the hockey mecca

So you couldn’t answer the question?

 

[Man Bear Pig]

That's a bold risk for a team looking to get over the hump.

Depends on which Campbell you're getting. Prior or post-December.

 

[Mr Positive]

Obviously Toronto isn't. Not shocking the Oilers are not as they may or many not make playoffs. Short of Gibson, a healthy price or MAF, a goalie isn't gonna to help enough to win a round

idk. Under the new coach the team seems revived. Most Oiler fans aren't worried about the risk of missing the playoffs now. It would be an appropriate move for management to make a roster upgrade of some type at least

 

[elitepete]

If Oilers aren't going to get a goalie, then at the very least they should solidify the bottom 6 and defense core.

 

[seanlinden]

This is my take , trading for a goalie at the deadline is generally not something a true contender does or a team that is close. The only goalie worth going after is MAF his experience and record gives teams more confidence in taking that risk. However 2 things one it sounds like he will simply finish out the season in Chicago, unless something changes that signal Sent to the league imo made teams rethink going after a goalie. Plus when MAF came to Chicago his first month or so was rough new team and that would be common for any goalie moving to a new team enough time to settle in and regain there focus and confidence...

QFT.

Maybe a guy like Forsberg moves to provide a team with some insurance; but I don't think any contenders are replacing their #1 goalie in this market.