Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Jake McCabe (@50%), Sam Lafferty, cond. 2024 and 2025 5th round picks for Joey Anderson, Pavel Gogolev, 2025 1st (top 10 prot), 2026 2nd

This is our time !

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Are you sure it isn't that he uses multi syllabic words that challenge your vocabulary?
OMFG.....LMFAO!!!!!! Nailed it!

This trade is so bad for Chicago. The Leafs could trade a $2 million McCabe for 2 more seasons for arguably the same value or more to another contender if they wanted to blow it up (if they lose in the 1st round again).
 
Yep. They do have a bit of time.

Having said that, he has to have a trade in his back pocket or things could get dicey. Don't want to end up Friday at 3 pm trying to add assets on to someone to move them at the last minute because players got through the next 2 games unscathed and healthy.

Remember that a player just getting hurt is not enough to help. The player would have to both A) be hurt, and B) placed on LTIR.
Yep. They do have a bit of time.

Having said that, he has to have a trade in his back pocket or things could get dicey. Don't want to end up Friday at 3 pm trying to add assets on to someone to move them at the last minute because players got through the next 2 games unscathed and healthy.

Remember that a player just getting hurt is not enough to help. The player would have to both A) be hurt, and B) placed on LTIR.
Just a reminder that you still can trade players after td, it’s just they will not be eligible for post season.
And you can send ppl to the minors.
 
Just a reminder that you still can trade players after td, it’s just they will not be eligible for post season.
And you can send ppl to the minors.
Yup, true dat. But having said that, it's also an issue that anyone a team trades for after the deadline is also not eligible for the post season, so that makes things awkward too.
 
Just a reminder that you still can trade players after td, it’s just they will not be eligible for post season.
And you can send ppl to the minors.

Yup, true dat. But having said that, it's also an issue that anyone a team trades for after the deadline is also not eligible for the post season, so that makes things awkward too.

Has that happened in the past?
Actually this is not true, apparently it was recently changed. This was clarified last year when the whole Dadonov fiasco happened. Free agents signed after the deadline can play the remaining regular season games but not playoffs, but players under contract who are traded past the deadline cannot play at all. If a team traded a guy under contract post TDL it would cause a big ruckus with the PA and look really bad on the teams involved as it would force a healthy player to just sit out potentially.

 
Actually this is not true, apparently it was recently changed. This was clarified last year when the whole Dadonov fiasco happened. Free agents signed after the deadline can play the remaining regular season games but not playoffs, but players under contract who are traded past the deadline cannot play at all. If a team traded a guy under contract post TDL it would cause a big ruckus with the PA and look really bad on the teams involved as it would force a healthy player to just sit out potentially.


We are talking about leafs getting to under the cap. Trading someone is still possible to reduce cap.
Actually, it’s weird that you can try to demote player and player can play if picked up off waivers, but not if strait traded? What is the difference?
 
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Hey my Leafs friends,

Just got in from work and read the news.

Congratulations on a nice piece of business. Looks like you kept your best prospects and mitigated the risk with the 1st Round Pick.

Should be an exciting run to the Playoffs. Really happy for you all.
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Man oh man where in the world do you find some of these things?
 
Just found out a few mins ago. Brilliance again by Dubas and even better then the first trade which was good too.
Another first stings but these players aren't rentals this time. McCabe is a nice get. Wanted Jensen but the extra year of control is worth it. A top 4 d man whose physical and has an edge. Laffarty brings another different element to the bottom 6 too.
Dubas addressed the top 6 position, reshaped the bottom 6, and improved the D core. Solved every area. He kept his roster and top prospects.
Time for this core to step up for their GM.
 
Say what you will about Dubas but he has defiantly learning what it takes to win in the playoffs. Over the last 2 years he’s adding the right players. Now just need to hope the goaltending holds up because he’s done everything to make the goalies job as easy as possible.
I personally do not have 100% confidence in the goaltending, but then again you look around the league and so called average numbers and the Leafs aren't sucking hind tit as they used to say.

Sammy is scary sometimes but than suddenly shows off his inner Hasek and I think all the Leafs need really is guys who'll do a little crease clearing house cleaning and like you take away the middle of the ice. The new additions seem to have a history and habit of that kind of play.
I agree with you on this. I think Dubas has fixed his main flaw which was trying to be a nice guy. His signings since the big 3 have all been reasonable to very good as far as term and price paid. He looks like he learned his lesson on that front. He also didn't try and bring in another small "energy" player like Colin Blackwell again. He now sees there is a difference between playoff hockey and reg season hockey. It took a while...he took a lot of lumps but is no longer trying to re-invent the game with small skilled water bugs.

If it looks like Willy is going to want a big payday...he can deal him in the summer and get a lot of the picks back. I doubt very much that Willy will be giving any kind of discount to Dubas...and you really cannot blame him.

Yeah for sure, but Will is a guy who'll maybe nudge the 40 goals mark and maybe 45 if all goes well and the new personnel do open up more ice with a more aggressive attitude. If he does he's earned that big raise because that's the going rate.
 
McCabe and Lafferty are lesser players then Orlov and Hathaway for the same price, but we're obviously paying more because of the contract retention and terms. From everything I've read about McCabe, he is more like a #4 rather then a #2 or #3, which I was hoping we could have found a way to do. But if we want to maximize two cup runs instead of 1, McCabe over Orlov is probably the right play because of the contract terms. I guess Ekholm or Orlov was never really a realistic scenario. I wonder how much Orlov wants on a new deal. He would have been an interesting player to get. But don't get me wrong, I'm happy with McCabe because of the terms.
 
ZAR/acciari/lafferty is gonna be so fun to watch


fairly certain marner is gonna stay with matthews, as he should tbh. nylander and matty dont fit together the same way.
Sure but they have proved in the past that they can’t get it done in the playoffs. They got smothered. Are we going risk another first round loss keeping them together?
 
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It's pathetic. The same folks who criticize the Leafs and their defense for being soft or not deep enough are now changing goal posts saying how Dubas is mortgaging the future and that these players are overrated and replacement level.

It's a fool's argument. I'm not a big fan of Dubas and I was against trading picks for rentals the last couple of years.

But you don't cry over spilt milk and you need to re-evaluate every season to adjust your strategies accordingly. Dubas did a great job this year. You can keep on crying for 1st rounder we wasted on Foligno, but that pick is gone and from this season's standpoint, the moves he made were all correct/great.
 
Look at this smug arrogant punk piece of shit explaining his deal

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Um that "good" player has a .41 P/PG in the NHL, had a .49 P/PG in the AHL, 1.38 P/PG (8 GP - small sample) in the ECHL and a .64 P/PG in the WHL and that is only because he had a monster over age season with 40G and 40A. This is a case of a GM falling in love with a player, over evaluating his value and bidding against himself. I do not mind that strategy for every GM in the league but the Leafs.

He took #2

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[TD]Ray Gariepy 1956[/TD]
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[TD]Marc Reaume 1958-1960[/TD]
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[TD]Carl Brewer 1961-1965[/TD]
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[TD]Larry Hillman 1966-1968[/TD]
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[TD]Pierre Pilote 1969[/TD]
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[TD]Rick Ley 1970-1972[/TD]
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[TD]Joe Lundrigan 1973[/TD]
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[TD]Ian Turnbull 1974-1982[/TD]
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[TD]Trevor Johansen 1982[/TD]
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[TD]Darwin McCutcheon 1982[/TD]
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[TD]Gary Nylund 1983-1986[/TD]
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[TD]Jerome Dupont 1987[/TD]
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[TD]Ted Fauss 1987[/TD]
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[TD]Luke Richardson 1988-1991[/TD]
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[TD]Ric Nattress 1992[/TD]
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[TD]Sylvain Lefebvre 1993-1994[/TD]
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[TD]Garth Butcher 1995[/TD]
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[TD]Rob Zettler 1996-1998[/TD]
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[TD]Dallas Eakins 1999[/TD]
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[TD]Gerald Diduck 2000[/TD]
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[TD]Wade Belak 2001-2004[/TD]
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[TD]Brian Leetch 2004[/TD]
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[TD]Eric Brewer 2015[/TD]
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Although it was a short period of time , Sylvain Lefebvre was one of my favorite Leaf defenders, he left an impression on me how a dman, if he played his position correctly could shut down opponents, up until I saw this guy play I had no idea how impactful a good dman could be on the game. I was all about being a forward and playing a hard / heavy game.
 
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Will be interesting to see how McCabe adjusts to his new team. Stuck on lottery teams his entire career, it’s hard to judge McCabe’s game without seeing him play in the Leafs defensive system.

Billed as a poor man’s Muzzin, he has a lot in common. Like Muzzin, his physicality has led to injuries, including recent spinal surgery that repaired a bad disc he’d been dealing with for 4-5 years. So we get a renewed McCabe clear of his knee and back injuries, and showing decent numbers from a bad team. What McCabe lacks is playoff success/experience.

Like Muzzin, he’s a hard nosed shot blocker, who should stand to excel with better defensive partners. My hope is his weaknesses (occasional bad pinches, lost coverages in front of the net, slower foot speed) can be corrected within a better coached system and team.
 
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He took 28


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Will be interesting to see how McCabe adjusts to his new team. Stuck on lottery teams his entire career, it’s hard to judge McCabe’s game without seeing him play in the Leafs defensive system.

Billed as a poor man’s Muzzin, he has a lot in common. Like Muzzin, his physicality has led to injuries, including recent spinal surgery that repaired a bad disc he’d been dealing with for 4-5 years. So we get a renewed McCabe clear of his knee and back injuries, and showing decent numbers from a bad team. What McCabe lacks is playoff success/experience.

Like Muzzin, he’s a hard nosed shot blocker, who should stand to excel with better defensive partners. My hope is his weaknesses (occasional bad pinches, lost coverages in front of the net, slower foot speed) can be corrected within a better coached system and team.

Wouldn't it be nice to see a healthy Muzz and McCabe in the same line up, not many forwards would try to sneak down the Right side.
 
Just found out a few mins ago. Brilliance again by Dubas and even better then the first trade which was good too.
Another first stings but these players aren't rentals this time. McCabe is a nice get. Wanted Jensen but the extra year of control is worth it. A top 4 d man whose physical and has an edge. Laffarty brings another different element to the bottom 6 too.
Dubas addressed the top 6 position, reshaped the bottom 6, and improved the D core. Solved every area. He kept his roster and top prospects.
Time for this core to step up for their GM.
Actually, it's 2 extra years of control for McCabe......they get him for Holl's price for 3 playoff runs, and Lafferty for 2 playoff runs. Just an unreal add.

I did a little comparison, and if you take out the contract spot fillers, the only difference from what Tampa paid for Jeannot and what the Leafs paid for ROR (75% retention), Acciari, McCabe (50% retention), and Lafferty is that the Leafs paid an extra 2nd and received 2 extra 5ths, while Tampa paid an extra 5th.

So essentially the sum difference between the 2 teams is that Tampa is up one 2nd round pick vs Toronto, while Toronto is up three 5th round picks vs Tampa (one of which could be a 3rd). Insanity.
 
This is a great trade, I’m also pleasantly surprised that our 3rd round pick and next years 1st survived the deadline after going all in like this.
 

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