Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Darren Raddysh for 2026 5th | Raddysh signs, 8 years, $8.5M AAV

[meefer]

Damn, you wake up in the morn and WTF

Raddysh and the Calder Cup.

What's tomorrow going to bring?

 

[sxvnert]

To be fair, I don't think the people saying Kucherov made him are just talking about the last pass.

Its the latest low info cheap shot being used but even if it were true (it isn't) the leafs have the counter.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

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Most effective? Ian Turnbull?

Had this on my bedroom wall as a kid.

 

[ULF_55]

Had this on my bedroom wall as a kid.

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Was one of my favorites.
Tim was my favorite though.

Jim Dorey was fun!

For how few games/years he played for the Leafs, did anyone have a bigger hit than Pat on Bobby?

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Who would be the best defensive compliment to Raddysh? McCabe, Ferrari, Shea?

 

[ULF_55]

To be fair, I don't think the people saying Kucherov made him are just talking about the last pass.

Kucherov controls a Power Play like few players can. He can manipulate a team's defensive structure and force defenders to take certain options away and have to give him other ones.

TOR has some talented players but no one who runs a PP like he does. I don't think Raddysh will get as many chances to tee it up on the PP next year.

That said, he does have a bomb, and it's not like McKenna or Nylander can't set him up to unleash it on occasion. It'll be up to the Leafs' PP coaching staff to draw up plays and try to get him (and other players) good looks. I'm sure they'll do a better job than Savard.

It isn't like the shot is his only asset / strength.

I think his strength at moving the puck for 18 minutes a game is more important shooting the puck 3 minutes a game.

They asked players what they thought the team needed and they said puck movers are needed ... he moves the puck.

Both the new guys are puck movers.

 

[seanlinden]

Not that I want to buy into Sid Seixeiro's schtick... but he actually raised a valid point today....

Why did Tampa do this?

 

[Gallagbi]

Not that I want to buy into Sid Seixeiro's schtick... but he actually raised a valid point today....

Why did Tampa do this?

Hedman's back which puts Raddysh on their second pair and second PP, so you're paying a premium price for an asset you aren't using in a premium role

He'll be our top D, and would have been on a handful of other teams too, but he's not ahead of Hedman or Moser in TBL

 

[HavingACow4Cowan]

It isn't like the shot is his only asset / strength.

I think his strength at moving the puck for 18 minutes a game is more important shooting the puck 3 minutes a game.

They asked players what they thought the team needed and they said puck movers are needed ... he moves the puck.

Both the new guys are puck movers.

Yeah, I was wondering how good his puck moving ability is and how good he is defensively. I knew about his big shot.

It sounds like he moves the puck well, which is definitely a positive. Hopefully he's at least adequate defensively (a lot better than Rielly), They do have other guys for physicality/defensive play (like McCabe and Tanev), however.

 

[PromisedLand]

HOLY COW

late to the party but

HOLY COW

not sure how to feel about this

Excited and scared at the same time LMAO

 

[Buds17]

Not that I want to buy into Sid Seixeiro's schtick... but he actually raised a valid point today....

Why did Tampa do this?

Trade him to Toronto? To receive a 5th round pick when the alternative was to have him sign there for no return at all since he was slated to be a pending UFA.

 

[seanlinden]

Trade him to Toronto? To receive a 5th round pick when the alternative was to have him sign there for no return at all since he was slated to be a pending UFA.

I think back a few years ago when Zach Hyman was going to Edmonton. Kyle Dubas wanted more than Edmonton was offering to do the sign & trade because he felt the benefit Edmonton was receiving in an 8th year / lower AAV was worth more. He held out and Hyman went for 7 years.

I look at this situation, and think to myself - if Tampa, who knows Raddysh really well, felt that he was worth anything in the realm of what he got, would have probably preferred to send him west; not in their division.

Yes, it's a 5th round pick, but I feel like most teams wouldn't help out a division rival with a long term deal for a 5th round pick.

 

[Schennanigans]

I wonder how far off Tampa was. Curious what that number was.

 

[Kurtz]

I look at this situation, and think to myself - if Tampa, who knows Raddysh really well, felt that he was worth anything in the realm of what he got, would have probably preferred to send him west; not in their division.

It wasn't up to them. He was signing in Toronto regardless.

Tampa also does make mistakes more often than you'd think. I bet they'd love a redo on the Sergachev - Mcdonaugh deal for example. Probably could have used Stamkos' 40 goals too, as he was willing to sign there for a lot less than what he got in Nash.

 

[ULF_55]

Raddysh has a powerful point shot, and that is something Leafs have been missing,

Morgan Rielly's point shot on the PP was not going to get things done.

I'd have preferred Raddysh at 5 years term but not 8.

Well, NMC for 6 years, so he can be moved after 6 years which isn't much different than a 5 year contract.

 

[PromisedLand]

so what are we looking at....

Knies-Matthews-McKenna
Cowan-Tavares-Nylander
Joshua-3C-XXX/Maccelli/Robertson
Lorentz-4C/Quillan-XXX
XXX

McCabe-Raddysh
Rielly-Tanev
OEL-Carlo
Andrae-Myers


Stolarz
Hildeby

Domi (LTIR)


Holes to fill: 2C/3C ; forward depth, another top6 winger (?)

anyway as of right now. things can obviously change by the time season starts

 

[seanlinden]

It wasn't up to them. He was signing in Toronto regardless.

Even if that were the case, you might make the case that a 5th round pick isn't worth saving Toronto $500k on the cap for the next 7 years.

 

[PromisedLand]

Well, NMC for 6 years, so he can be moved after 6 years which isn't much different than a 5 year contract.

signing bonuses paid up front may help move him last couple years unless we wanna send him on Robidas Island lol

 

[ULF_55]

I think back a few years ago when Zach Hyman was going to Edmonton. Kyle Dubas wanted more than Edmonton was offering to do the sign & trade because he felt the benefit Edmonton was receiving in an 8th year / lower AAV was worth more. He held out and Hyman went for 7 years.

I look at this situation, and think to myself - if Tampa, who knows Raddysh really well, felt that he was worth anything in the realm of what he got, would have probably preferred to send him west; not in their division.

Yes, it's a 5th round pick, but I feel like most teams wouldn't help out a division rival with a long term deal for a 5th round pick.

My guess Lightning thought a 5th. was better than a nothing.

Any sort of data analysis, data mining, would have lead to the conclusion he wanted to move back home for the personal reasons that have been speculated, and the Leafs had openly said they were looking for puck moving defenders.

Raddysh: "I'm going home."
Leafs: "We are signing a puck moving defender in free agency."
Tampa: "Hmm, anyone have any ideal what Raddysh wants?"

 

[Azure Doom]

so what are we looking at....

Knies-Matthews-McKenna
Cowan-Tavares-Nylander
Joshua-3C-XXX/Maccelli/Robertson
Lorentz-4C/Quillan-XXX
XXX

McCabe-Raddysh
Rielly-Tanev
OEL-Carlo
Andrae-Myers


Stolarz
Hildeby

Domi (LTIR)


Holes to fill: 2C/3C ; forward depth, another top6 winger (?)

anyway as of right now. things can obviously change by the time season starts

I think Lorentz is gone or should be... Also done with Maccelli and Robertson..Heard mention today that they are looking to move MCCabe or Carlo

 

[seanlinden]

My guess Lightning thought a 5th. was better than a nothing.

Any sort of data analysis, data mining, would have lead to the conclusion he wanted to move back home for the personal reasons that have been speculated, and the Leafs had openly said they were looking for puck moving defenders.

Raddysh: "I'm going home."
Leafs: "We are signing a puck moving defender in free agency."
Tampa: "Hmm, anyone have any ideal what Raddysh wants?"

That, or their rumoured offer of 5 years x $6m (or whatever it was) wasn't just a "start low" in negotiations, but close to their belief as to what we was worth.

I get the reasons for him to chose Toronto over Tampa (Father, Family, young kid, maybe more coming). I actually think local players with extremely young families make for ideal candidates to get a deal on.

However, at the same time, Tampa's got $16m of cap space, with Oliver Bjorkstrand and Corey Perry to resign. They could have given him $7.5m x 8, which from a take-home standpoint would likely be similar to Toronto's $8.5m.

 

[PromisedLand]

I think Lorentz is gone or should be... Also done with Maccelli and Robertson..Heard mention today that they are looking to move MCCabe or Carlo

woohhhh why are they looking to move McCabe? he is one good d-man we got. are they expecting brodie like decline form him this upcoming season?

 

[PromisedLand]

@Buckley supremacy

Its @Buckley 's world right now. we are just living in it

 

[Zybalto]

Hedman's back which puts Raddysh on their second pair and second PP, so you're paying a premium price for an asset you aren't using in a premium role

He'll be our top D, and would have been on a handful of other teams too, but he's not ahead of Hedman or Moser in TBL

I dont think Tampa had a choice TBH. Like Marner, Raddysh wasnt planning on staying. He wanted to go to Toronto where he would be the guy and be close to family.

Tampa is a year or two away from being in real trouble on the backend. With McDonagh 37 and Hedman turning 36 this season, its gonna be rough to expect them to continue to be super effective (both signed 3 more years) and Kucherov's raise the season after this is gonna eat up a whole years worth of cap increases.

Raddysh put up 70 points and the next nearest Tampa D put up 29. Im pretty sure they wanted to keep him but were never going to be able to afford to keep him and still field a contending team anyways IMO.

 

[ULF_55]

That, or their rumoured offer of 5 years x $6m (or whatever it was) wasn't just a "start low" in negotiations, but close to their belief as to what we was worth.

I get the reasons for him to chose Toronto over Tampa (Father, Family, young kid, maybe more coming). I actually think local players with extremely young families make for ideal candidates to get a deal on.

However, at the same time, Tampa's got $16m of cap space, with Oliver Bjorkstrand and Corey Perry to resign. They could have given him $7.5m x 8, which from a take-home standpoint would likely be similar to Toronto's $8.5m.

That would be much much lower than most of the "rumours/speculation" of what he would get on the open market.

Yeah, Leafs had more capspace and Lightning would have had to maneuver to get their offers close to reality.

One of those, this is all we can afford situations.