LD Lane Hutson - Boston University, NCAA (2022, 62nd, MTL)

[danisonfire]

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I didn't even bring up Casey. I replied to a habs fan who claimed there wasn't a single GM on the planet who wouldn't take Hutson over Casey, which I disagreed with. Since then I've been replying to posts from many different posters, ranging from clarifying questions to personal attacks.

I'm on record in this thread talking about how good Hutson is, he's got incredible talent with the puck in the offensive zone.

It is more than just you. They are wrong. We all have hits and Misses from the past.

Everyone spends time trashing and comparing their players to other teams players. The thread is the Lane Hutson thread. It is located in the prospect section. I want to read about Lane Hutson as a prospect.

If people focused on that they would learn more about each prospect and stop posting ridiculous things. Save the trash talk and comparisons to the polls section. I like reading them too. We need a place to actually post valuable information about the prospects without the comparisons derailing the thread.

 

[Xirik]

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It is more than just you. They are wrong. We all have hits and Misses from the past.

Everyone spends time trashing and comparing their players to other teams players. The thread is the Lane Hutson thread. It is located in the prospect section. I want to read about Lane Hutson as a prospect.

If people focused on that they would learn more about each prospect and stop posting ridiculous things. Save the trash talk and comparisons to the polls section. I like reading them too. We need a place to actually post valuable information about the prospects without the comparisons derailing the thread.

Seattle fans would agree with you I think.

 

[MoneyManny]

Guarantee you have some pretty wild takes given you’re a passionate Finnish fan boy, not just a passionate Habs fan boy.

Passion is great, but it also leads you to be blind at times.

There's absolutely nothing fun in being an objective Habs fan these days. Without the passion there isn't much left.

 

[Lou Bloom]

I'm a fan of Hutson but the Habs fans harping on his "historic season" and claiming he'd go top 5 in a re-draft are a bit much. Gabe Perrault had a historic season with the highest single season point total in USNTDP history and went 23rd overall. There's a lot more to NHL projection than just looking at elite prospects and claiming someone's a better prospect due to production.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I'm a fan of Hutson but the Habs fans harping on his "historic season" and claiming he'd go top 5 in a re-draft are a bit much. Gabe Perrault had a historic season with the highest single season point total in USNTDP history and went 23rd overall. There's a lot more to NHL projection than just looking at elite prospects and claiming someone's a better prospect due to production.

No one is or should be claiming he would go top-5 in a re-draft. That's ridiculous!

 

[montreal]

I'm a fan of Hutson but the Habs fans harping on his "historic season" and claiming he'd go top 5 in a re-draft are a bit much. Gabe Perrault had a historic season with the highest single season point total in USNTDP history and went 23rd overall. There's a lot more to NHL projection than just looking at elite prospects and claiming someone's a better prospect due to production.

I would suggest just not clicking on any Lane Hutson threads, cause any teams fans would be going nuts if their late 2nd round pick just had likely the best U-19 season any American defensemen has ever had. I mean that's kind of huge and of course fans will go overboard with it.

 

[TLEH]

No one is or should be claiming he would go top-5 in a re-draft. That's ridiculous!

Seen it multiple times

 

[Lou Bloom]

I would suggest just not clicking on any Lane Hutson threads, cause any teams fans would be going nuts if their late 2nd round pick just had likely the best U-19 season any American defensemen has ever had. I mean that's kind of huge and of course fans will go overboard with it.

Nobody said Habs Fans shouldn't be excited about Huston. All I'm saying is that the hype is a bit much and saying most re-drafts would have him going top 5 or that he's multiple tiers better than a player like Seamus Casey is a quite some takes.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Nobody said Habs Fans shouldn't be excited about Huston. All I'm saying is that the hype is a bit much and saying most re-drafts would have him going top 5 or that he's multiple tiers better than a player like Seamus Casey is a quite some takes.

Nobody should be claiming he's top 5. I don't see many of those posts and should be called out as its unrealistic. But discussing a redraft and Lane selected ahead of Casey - easily achievable given his historic season. That shouldn't annoy NJD fans as its just reality - GMs will look at that season and Lane's growth and value him much higher. Unfortunately it does bother NJD fans, which is kinda sad.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Yep, Robertson's injuries really held him back. Hopefully he's able to get things back on track. Seems like my Caufield comments were pretty accurate though...

Waiting for you to explain how Casey has limited offensive upside despite having a more productive freshman season than Makar.

Caufield is also an underrated puck distributor.

 

[Xirik]

Nobody should be claiming he's top 5. I don't see many of those posts and should be called out as its unrealistic. But discussing a redraft and Lane selected ahead of Casey - easily achievable given his historic season. That shouldn't annoy NJD fans as its just reality - GMs will look at that season and Lane's growth and value him much higher. Unfortunately it does bother NJD fans, which is kinda sad.

fans?

Who beside Whiskey has given that opinion? the only other Devils fans posting about Casey and hutson are doing so in response to some Habs fans dunking on Casey as a way to fight back against Whiskey.

No real need to blow this up into something bigger then it is.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

As a Devils fan, I actually think Hutson probably has the slightly higher offensive upside if everything comes together for him. I see Luke much more as a smooth skating 2 way defenseman a bit more in the Scott Niedermeyer mold, whereas Hutson reminds me a bit of a quicker Tony DeAngelo (who, attitude aside, can be an extremely valuable player in the right situation and is an elite PP QB)

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

As a Devils fan, I actually think Hutson probably has the slightly higher offensive upside if everything comes together for him. I see Luke much more as a smooth skating 2 way defenseman a bit more in the Scott Niedermeyer mold, whereas Hutson reminds me a bit of a quicker Tony DeAngelo (who, attitude aside, can be an extremely valuable player in the right situation and is an elite PP QB)

At the end of the day the better one could very well be...

Hutson...Cole.

He seems as good as Lane already and not even drafted yet.

Luke has the potential to run wild with that skill and he has size that a lot of d like that typically don't have.

 

[Ezpz]

I'm a fan of Hutson but the Habs fans harping on his "historic season" and claiming he'd go top 5 in a re-draft are a bit much. Gabe Perrault had a historic season with the highest single season point total in USNTDP history and went 23rd overall. There's a lot more to NHL projection than just looking at elite prospects and claiming someone's a better prospect due to production.

Except he didn't. In the 2019 year alone Hughes was ahead of him. Hughes and Wahlstrom both had more in 2018. Perrault had the 9th best season in history, which is only 20 years.

Hutson had the best season in history for a 50 year league and beat out multiple hall of famers by significant amounts. Perrault was one or two points ahead of 10 other guys. Hutson outscored Perrault despite one playing in the NCAA and the other playing against 16 and 17 year olds.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Except he didn't. In the 2019 year alone Hughes was ahead of him. Hughes and Wahlstrom both had more in 2018. Perrault had the 9th best season in history, which is only 20 years.

I think you are confused, this is not true.

Gabe Perreault had 132 points last year for the USNTDP. Hughes had 112 points in 2019.

Hutson had the best season in history for a 50 year league and beat out multiple hall of famers by significant amounts. Perrault was one or two points ahead of 10 other guys. Hutson outscored Perrault despite one playing in the NCAA and the other playing against 16 and 17 year olds.

This is also not true. Perreault had 132 points last year, with tons of them coming against NCAA competition.

 

[My3Sons]

As a Devils fan, I actually think Hutson probably has the slightly higher offensive upside if everything comes together for him. I see Luke much more as a smooth skating 2 way defenseman a bit more in the Scott Niedermeyer mold, whereas Hutson reminds me a bit of a quicker Tony DeAngelo (who, attitude aside, can be an extremely valuable player in the right situation and is an elite PP QB)

There will always be questions about the overall performance of smaller defenders given the requirements of the position. It’s not as silly as goaltenders have gotten where height is seemingly becoming too important but it’s part of the conventional wisdom. If Hutson was 6’2” he’d be seen as going top five in a redraft by a much bigger group of people. Same with Casey. If he’s 6’2” he’s a mid first round pick. The game has changed enough that a defender doesn’t have to be a hard hitter and his transition and offensive contributions can offset those size limitations that might impact certain elements of defensive play. Nonetheless there will be doubters. Guys like Will Butcher and Mete don’t help the perception of smaller defenders with less than stellar skating.

 

[Knies iT]

Here's another one in a Andrei Svechnikov vs Kotkaniemi poll. Seems like every opinion or poll or player comparison you make is WRONG! Why is that? How can we take you seriously?

Andrei Svechnikov vs Jesperi Kotkaniemi

who do you take going forward?

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Would be interesting to scour your post history if it wasn't filled with passive aggressive troll posts and homer takes in favour of the Habs.

Hard to get past a page of that.

 

[Anardil]

While all the highlights that we see are nice and all. I am still concerned that a d-man who is small and has trouble skating backwards, is being hyped so much. The 'highlights' that stuck with me are the the last two games that the US played in the WC. Lane was well positioned to fish the pucks out of his own net.

To completely ignore that a prospect's main weakness is actually the most important part of his position is just blind fandom foolishness.

I am not down on Hutson. IMHO, he is the most intriguing prospect in the crop. I also believe that he has the highest odds of busting, simply due to his main weaknesses.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

While all the highlights that we see are nice and all. I am still concerned that a d-man who is small and has trouble skating backwards, is being hyped so much. The 'highlights' that stuck with me are the the last two games that the US played in the WC. Lane was well positioned to fish the pucks out of his own net.

To completely ignore that a prospect's main weakness is actually the most important part of his position is just blind fandom foolishness.

I am not down on Hutson. IMHO, he is the most intriguing prospect in the crop. I also believe that he has the highest odds of busting, simply due to his main weaknesses.

Skating backward can easily be improved. It's not something that will lead a prospect to bust.

 

[BKarchitect]

While all the highlights that we see are nice and all. I am still concerned that a d-man who is small and has trouble skating backwards, is being hyped so much. The 'highlights' that stuck with me are the the last two games that the US played in the WC. Lane was well positioned to fish the pucks out of his own net.

To completely ignore that a prospect's main weakness is actually the most important part of his position is just blind fandom foolishness.

I am not down on Hutson. IMHO, he is the most intriguing prospect in the crop. I also believe that he has the highest odds of busting, simply due to his main weaknesses.

Your being a realist. That won’t get you far with a few of the stat and sizzle real watching Habs homers in this thread but it’s a very fair take.

He is, as you said, intriguing. The upside is high. The offensive intelligence is through the roof. The physical package is…unique. He’s certainly going to improve in some areas but he may never be “exceptional” for his body type with some of his physical traits. It’s possible to be very excited while also acknowledging there are some transitional steps ahead and not trying to announce to the world that in your opinion he’s a “#X” prospect from his draft or overall in the league.

 

[BKarchitect]

As a Devils fan, I actually think Hutson probably has the slightly higher offensive upside if everything comes together for him. I see Luke much more as a smooth skating 2 way defenseman a bit more in the Scott Niedermeyer mold, whereas Hutson reminds me a bit of a quicker Tony DeAngelo (who, attitude aside, can be an extremely valuable player in the right situation and is an elite PP QB)

I’d be fairly surprised if Hutson ends up as a better point producer at the NHL level than Luke. I just think Luke is gonna be logging 24 minutes a night and I don’t see Hutson’s usage like that at the next level. That said - I think on a “per minute basis” Hutson’s production could end up being elite.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

I think Lane Hutson could turn out to be a Poor man's Quinn Hughes meaning Montreal Hit a Homer on this late second Rounder

 

[CauZuki]

I think Lane Hutson could turn out to be a Poor man's Quinn Hughes meaning Montreal Hit a Homer on this late second Rounder

More like Quinn Hughes is a poor man's Lane Hutson!!

 

[Wateredgarden]

As a Devils fan, I actually think Hutson probably has the slightly higher offensive upside if everything comes together for him. I see Luke much more as a smooth skating 2 way defenseman a bit more in the Scott Niedermeyer mold, whereas Hutson reminds me a bit of a quicker Tony DeAngelo (who, attitude aside, can be an extremely valuable player in the right situation and is an elite PP QB)

Tbh Hughes got about the same skillset than Hutson when it comes to hands and vision. Hutson is a bit more decisive in his shot.