There were 4 dmen taken in the top 10 - Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski, and Mintyukov. He’d go ahead of none of them in a redraft. Can someone explain the need to embellish his redraft ranking. You’re all ostensibly, trying to convince the rest of hf, but it seems like you’re trying to convince yourselves. Why, who knows.
LD Lane Hutson - Boston University, NCAA (2022, 62nd, MTL)
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When did I say he only scores points? You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I said scoring points isn't the most important thing.
I'll ask a third time. Where did I say this. If you can't back up your statement, at least admit you were wrong and edit your post.
I think you misunderstand the difference between "putting up more points in a season in college" vs "having a historic season".
Its not like i am comparing Hutson to Jiricek / Nemec. I am comparing him to another similarly small dman who had a good but not an extraordinary D+1 season in college.
Historic is magical - especially to GMs / Scouts.
Lane Hutson was drafted in the 2nd round only because of his height / stature. He has grown since then.
Depends when the redraft is done. In a couple of sesons he will likely be considered better than Mintyukov and Korchinski
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You keep fixating on this to deflect from the other parts.
Here is you before the draft:
June 13, 2022
"Scoring points is nice and all but not really the most important thing I look for in a defender."
Here is you today at 11:03 am:
"A historically productive season means something. It doesn't mean everything. There's more to being a great defenseman than scoring points.
At this point, I think Hutson is more likely to be a Tony DeAngelo caliber player than a Cake Makar. Which is still a valuable type of player in today's NHL."
You are still parroting the same crap and are currently discrediting his season because "productivity doesn't mean everything". The kid was +25 at 5v5. Nothing for you changed since June 2022 before the draft. You ignore the WC completely as well except for the one video that helps your narrative. You don't like him, I get it.
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And the same is true for Casey. You understand that, right? Casey was 5'10 180 at camp.
Hutson had a historic draft year at the USNTDP. I guess the magic didn't work.
I'm fixating on it because you continue to slander me instead of focusing on discussing the actual players. I do like Hutson, just not as much as Casey.
Casey had a historic season?
A historic season in college >>>>>> historic season in USNTDP.
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Who said Casey had a historic season?
Is it though? You might need to prove that.
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So when you said that comment before the draft we were supposed to interpret it as you thinking he will succeed in the NCAA defensively? Are you actually being this pedantic? Who says the following about a small player they think will succeed defensively in the NCAA?
"Scoring points is nice and all but not really the most important thing I look for in a defender."
Slander? Libel is a defamatory statement that is written. Slander is a defamatory statement that is oral. Do you just parrot things all the time without knowing anything?
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This feels like the Shane Wright thread all over again. A small minority of rabid habs fans chomping at the bit to attack anyone who doesn't think their player is going to be better than all the rest.
You'd think some of them would learn.
You'd think some of them would learn.
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Hutson has surpassed Casey, along with a lot of players in his draft year. The fact that his game carried over so well from Juniors to College is big.
I'm not a Habs fan and I have no dog in this fight.
I'm not a Habs fan and I have no dog in this fight.
I don't need to prove that.
Having a historic season in the AHL (in a D+1 year) >> historic season in college (D+1) year >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USNDTP (D+1).
The higher the level of hockey the more challenging it is to stand out. The fact that Lane Hutson had a historic season in college hockey is extraordinary. In a re-draft, that would have easily put him in the 1st round and well ahead of Casey.
I am sure Casey may carve out a career like Francis Bouillon.
If that happens, it happens. More likely is that we look back at your post and laugh. I think most gm’s would laugh their asses off at that prediction. If your new claim is that years from now, he’ll be top five in a redraft, that’s moving the goalposts, in addition to being hollow drivel.
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Getting back to the player, I think he ends up a 3rd pairing + pp guy. Nothing wrong with that. Very valuable piece to get at the end of the second round.
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I think he'll see top pairing deployments, maybe 2nd pair. He's too good of a puck mover and decision maker to he a bottom pairing guy IMO.
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IME if WhiskeyYerTheDevils has a bias it's towards US Collage Hockey, and players that play\played there. If anything he's more forgiving of Hutson's skating than he should be.
The thing about Huston, as I've said previously, is that no one ever doubted his offensive ability, so dominating offensively doesn't move him up the ladder very much. His issues are defensive, skating, gap control and ability to deny zone entries. If I'm going to compare him to an NHL player at this point Neil Pionk comes to mind, Hutson may have a bit more offensive upside but the Jets end up spending excessive amounts of time in their own zone when he's on the ice.
FWIW I wanted the Jets to take Hutson with their second round pick. They took Salomonsson instead and I'm not the least little bit upset, he's bigger skates better and is younger than either Hutson or Casey and has similarly high levels of skill. He's also revived good reviews from the summer showcase for his defensive play and physicality at the U20 summer showcase showcase, something that was a bit of a whole in his game previously.
How will any of these prospects work out is still guesswork at this point and there is still lots of room for opinions to differ, you should not take it so personally when they do.
I don't get why my last comment about how the derogatory a poster in this thread was toward Habs fan was deleted? Strange. Did I break a rule? It was kinda true.
Anyhow, back to this interesting topic, I just found out Lane Hutson was quite small and not the fastest skater in the whole world. Even seen a video on YouTube where he said poutine was quite good. Just thought I'd add these discoveries this to this fruitful conversation.
Carry on.
Anyhow, back to this interesting topic, I just found out Lane Hutson was quite small and not the fastest skater in the whole world. Even seen a video on YouTube where he said poutine was quite good. Just thought I'd add these discoveries this to this fruitful conversation.
Carry on.
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Hutson production was impressive, but I still think the floor is still very low. He can end up anywhere between a better version of prime Torey Krug to a Brad Hunt. Not a lot of guys have made it at his size.
Also, what ever happened to the other Hab d prospect (Josh Brook I believe) that was consistently hyped up as one of the best of his draft.
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I'd like to wait and see what he can do at the pro level, before making my judgement.
Also, what ever happened to the other Hab d prospect (Josh Brook I believe) that was consistently hyped up as one of the best of his draft.
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I'd like to wait and see what he can do at the pro level, before making my judgement.
Who cares about Casey or Hutson. Couple of wimps will be ahlers because nhl gms want bigger players….especially D.
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since you're bringing up old threads, dig up what you thought about caufield
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Fantilli was very productive in NCAA, but was drafted after Bedard from junior league and after Carlsson with not as impressive (but still good ) season in SHL.
I understand historical thing from mtl fans. But Casey with his better defensive game and wheels could easily be drafted higher by some gms, not by one or two. He has pretty productive season too btw, but shows more signs of potential translating his overall game to nhl level. For some gms its not a reason to draft him over Hutson, for some gms it is and, like was mentioned before, Hutson was historically productive before and still wasn't drafted before Casey, still wasn't drafted as first defenseman. And he wouldn't be higher than Nemec or Jiricek or Gauthier or even Slafkovski or Cooley or Nazar or Kasper or a lot of other players in redraft. Because he is still isn't as good with his skating and speed for his size, his physical development isn't there. For now. Everything could and should change after. And like was mentioned before, everybody not saying that he is bad prospect and his performance isn't looking well. Its just about his overall game and evaluation of prospect. Analysis of the overall game is more useful thing than production only, and it was always more useful. Especially for defensemen.
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Remarkable insight. Did you just time travel from 1985?
Anyway, I don’t know if hitching your wagon to an all-offense defenseman the size of a HS freshman is good practice, but go off MTL fans.
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At Casey’s size he better be showing more offensive potential to be considered a NHL player. I see his ceiling as Samuel Girard and floor as a KHLer. His translatable skillset gets nullified by the lack of offensive potential.
GMs in a redraft would pick Lane by a wide margin due to the sky high ceiling. Its all about potential with small dmen.
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