OldScool
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Fantilli...Cooley I am fine with....Knies doesn't belong there over Hutson. No way no how.
The people who know disagree. I think Fantilli wins it, though.Lol at Knies. He wasn't top 2 in his own team.
If Makar went back, Hutson can also go back. He needs the lighter schedule to hit the gym.No most of us think 1 more year in college would be what's best. Even if he signs his ELC odds are he would be in the AHL next year..
And Snuggerud.The people who know disagree. I think Fantilli wins it, though.
The people who know what? That Leafs fans are numerous and vote for their own prospect endlessly because the future needs to at least win 1 playoff round? My bet is on Fantilli too just fyiThe people who know disagree. I think Fantilli wins it, though.
Actually a pretty good take.Don’t think either Hutson or Knies deserved the nod over Yaniv Parets.
He was phenomenal this year.
He did not.He can take out his frustration on Minnesota on Thursday if he'd like. Wouldn't be the first time a Minnesota team was beaten single-handedly in the Frozen Four by a skilled defenseman going nuclear.
This aged wellDon’t think either Hutson or Knies deserved the nod over Yaniv Parets.
He was phenomenal this year.
some of us actually watch the hockey and aren’t blinded By our biasActually a pretty good take.
Completely different situationsSmart.
Your turn, Logan.
Players I would for sure still take above Hutson (not in order):
Logan Cooley
David Jiricek
Simon Nemec
Shane Wright
Juraj Slafkovsky
Pavel Mintyukov
Matthew Savoie
Cutter Gauthier
Jiri Kulich
Kevin Korchinski
Brad Lambert
Players I might still take above Hutson (not in order):
Joakim Kemell
Seamus Casey
Liam Ohgren
Frank Nazar
Jimmy Snuggerud
Tristan Luneau
Noah Ostlund
Lian Bischel
May be some I missed. IMO Hutson goes somewhere between the 11-20 in a redraft after his historic season. I could see him eventually being a top five pick in a redraft but could also seem him struggling at the NHL level
The problem is that he's still tiny and notably bad defensively. He had to put up big offensive numbers to justify being considered a legitimate prospect, which he did. The thing is that there are LOTS of other players out there who also did what they had to do the justify being considered legitimate prospects, and most of these are still well below the radar for the typical forum member.
WRT Hutson specifically, the problem is that his overall game doesn't look like a #1D, he looks like an offensive specialist and a brilliant offensive season doesn't really change that assessment much. At the NHL level there really are not many D-men in that offensive specialist mode. Rightly or wrongly, unless you are the teams #1/#2 D you are not likely to get the same type of offensive opportunity and if he doesn't get that opportunity what exactly is he as an NHL player?
That said I really like the player and really wanted the Jets to take him at 55, but I'm certainly not lamenting getting Salomonsson instead. Both players are progressing nicely and could be valuable pieces in a few years.
Completely different situations
He has noticeable defensive deficiencies even at the NCAA level. Just because he's good offensively doesn't mean he's a Makar or even a Hughes, they are both much more complete players and always have been. Scouts didn't just overlook him, they all knew what he could potentially do offensively, he fell to where he did for very real reasons.Hutson isn't bad defensively. At least not in the NCAA level.
He projects to become a player like Makar and Hughes. They are 1D because of how dominant they are offensively, not because of their defensive game.
Wrong. I doubt any scouts projected him to have this good of a freshman season. If any scouts predicted he would be one of the most dynamic players and over a point per game in his 1st year and still let him drop to 60OA they should be fired.He has noticeable defensive deficiencies even at the NCAA level. Just because he's good offensively doesn't mean he's a Makar or even a Hughes, they are both much more complete players and always have been. Scouts didn't just overlook him, they all knew what he could potentially do offensively, he fell to where he did for very real reasons.
He has noticeable defensive deficiencies even at the NCAA level. Just because he's good offensively doesn't mean he's a Makar or even a Hughes, they are both much more complete players and always have been. Scouts didn't just overlook him, they all knew what he could potentially do offensively, he fell to where he did for very real reasons.
I don't know how you could watch him and come up with these conclusions... The guy is an absolute stud #1 defender in the NCAA right now. He can defend very well with an active stick and good anticipation at that level.The problem is that he's still tiny and notably bad defensively. He had to put up big offensive numbers to justify being considered a legitimate prospect, which he did. The thing is that there are LOTS of other players out there who also did what they had to do the justify being considered legitimate prospects, and most of these are still well below the radar for the typical forum member.
WRT Hutson specifically, the problem is that his overall game doesn't look like a #1D, he looks like an offensive specialist and a brilliant offensive season doesn't really change that assessment much. At the NHL level there really are not many D-men in that offensive specialist mode. Rightly or wrongly, unless you are the teams #1/#2 D you are not likely to get the same type of offensive opportunity and if he doesn't get that opportunity what exactly is he as an NHL player?
That said I really like the player and really wanted the Jets to take him at 55, but I'm certainly not lamenting getting Salomonsson instead. Both players are progressing nicely and could be valuable pieces in a few years.