LD Lane Hutson - Boston University, NCAA (2022, 62nd, MTL)

[ponder]

Also, BU are listing him at 5’10”, 155 lbs. The 5’10” is likely a lie, right? At the NHL draft combine, just 8 months ago, he was officially measured at 5’8.25”, 158 lbs: 2022 NHL Combine Heights & Weights

Seems very unlikely that an 18 year old grew nearly 2” in 8 months (while losing 3 lbs?).

He’s sooo talented, I think he has a legit shot to thrive at the NHL level despite his size, but … I do not believe his listed height with BU.

 

[Captain97]

Also, BU are listing him at 5’10”, 155 lbs. The 5’10” is likely a lie, right? At the NHL draft combine, just 8 months ago, he was officially measured at 5’8.25”, 158 lbs: 2022 NHL Combine Heights & Weights

Seems very unlikely that an 18 year old grew nearly 2” in 8 months (while losing 3 lbs?).

He’s sooo talented, I think he has a legit shot to thrive at the NHL level despite his size, but … I do not believe his listed height with BU.

Considering he had reports from his doctor that said he still had another growth spurt in him it's not too crazy. Also he isn't quite 5'10 I think the official measurement 5'9.75 so he could have easily picked up 1.5 since the draft.

 

[ponder]

Considering he had reports from his doctor that said he still had another growth spurt in him it's not too crazy. Also he isn't quite 5'10 I think the official measurement 5'9.75 so he could have easily picked up 1.5 since the draft.

What official measurement? Pretty sure there’s no such thing as official NCAA measurements. Draft combine, yeah, that’s official (and where he was measured at 5’8.25”), but players just put what they want on their NCAA listing, and same in the NHL. BU list him at 5’10”: Lane Hutson - Men's Ice Hockey - Boston University Athletics

Growing 1.75” (or 1.5”) in 8 months at 18 is exceptionally rare. And it would be even less than 8 months, really, BU have been listing him at 5’10” since October - so according to his BU listing it’s 1.75” in 4 months.

On the flip side athletes exaggerating their height is exceptionally common.

I wonder, how many ppl grow 1.5”+ in 4 months at 18? 1 in 1,000? 1 in 10,000? Something like that. While undersized NHL prospects lying about their height is probably … 1 in 2 or so. You can draw your own conclusions.

 

[Captain97]

What official measurement? Pretty sure there’s no such thing as official NCAA measurements. Draft combine, yeah, that’s official (and where he was measured at 5’8.25”), but players just put what they want on their NCAA listing, and same in the NHL. BU list him at 5’10”: Lane Hutson - Men's Ice Hockey - Boston University Athletics

Growing 1.75” (or 1.5”) in 8 months at 18 is exceptionally rare. And it would be even less than 8 months, really, BU have been listing him at 5’10” since October - so according to his BU listing it’s 1.75” in 4 months.

On the flip side athletes exaggerating their height is exceptionally common.

I wonder, how many ppl grow 1.5”+ in 4 months at 18? 1 in 1,000? 1 in 10,000? Something like that. While undersized NHL prospects lying about their height is probably … 1 in 2 or so. You can draw your own conclusions.

I'm not saying he did or didn't but the man literally has medical reports supporting he is an odd case. + his dad and brother grew a few inches after turning 18.

 

[GordieHowYaDoin]

Imagine going back and forth on Lane's height on a Wednesday morning

 

[ponder]

I'm not saying he did or didn't but the man literally has medical reports supporting he is an odd case. + his dad and brother grew a few inches after turning 18.

It’s possible, just extremely unlikely.

 

[ottawa]

It’s possible, just extremely unlikely.

Why is it extremely unlikely if a doctor literally told him his bone development is delayed.

I think what you mean to say is it's extremely unlikely for most people but possible for Lane Hutson given his situation?

I'm not saying he'll grow, but tired of listening to f***ing online doctors on here bitch about his height non-stop. It's tiresome to read, just wait a few months and you'll all know.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

It’s possible, just extremely unlikely.

There was a picture posted of him with his brother (Quinn I believe) who is 5'10 and Lane is just slightly shorter, so likely 5'9 at this point.

 

[Colezuki]

He gets bailed out by his teammates a lot and otherwise the goaltender makes a nice save but the reason this is possible is that he's not passive defensively. He's always using his stick to disrupt the other team's advantage and when that is achieved he's very hard to stop.

Not sure what you mean about changing up position to play on the point and stuff. He's like a point guard, bro. That's all there is to it.

He means literally what your describing, in the offensive zone he's a PP QB, in the defensive zone he acts as a winger and pinches up to the point like a point guard.

With that said If he can become a Quinn Hughes type that's a huge W and he's trending well right now, improves his speed watch out

 

[Steeler23]

He's grown 3 inches since the draft. His height is no longer an issue if he can put on some weight. The irony is he even had a bone specialist verify that his body age was younger than his actual age and that he would continue growing, and even had proof in his brother and father who grew at the same age. 31 teams look dumb.

Good doesn't even cover it either, he's having the best rookie season for a defenseman in NCAA history. Absolutely smoking Makar, Fox, etc..

As an Habs fan, It amaze me how many Mtl fans are calling the management genius for drafting him at 62. They are not.

They didn't take him at 26 or 33. They didn't trade up either (to make sure they got him when they saw hm fall. With the way he's playing (and the fact he had proof he would grow), he was easily worth it at 26 or 33.

Fact is, 32 teams look dumb today, but 1 is also lucky.

 

[Canadienna]

As an Habs fan, It amaze me how many Mtl fans are calling the management genius for drafting him at 62. They are not.

They didn't take him at 26 or 33. They didn't trade up either (to make sure they got him when they saw hm fall. With the way he's playing (and the fact he had proof he would grow), he was easily worth it at 26 or 33.

Fact is, 32 teams look dumb today, but 1 is also lucky.

I mean this seems like a funny sticking point when they got the player.

You could just as easily argue they were smart to accurately read where he would be drafted.

I'd rather have Beck, Mesar and Hutson than just Beck and Hutson...

 

[Steeler23]

I mean this seems like a funny sticking point when they got the player.

You could just as easily argue they were smart to accurately read where he would be drafted.

I'd rather have Beck, Mesar and Hutson than just Beck and Hutson...

Thank you for proving my point about Habs fans calling them genius for being mostly lucky!

I would LOVE to hear you argue on the fact that the Habs predicted that a player (who was in the 25-45 range on most mock draft) wouldn't get picked between 34 and 62. And make it sound credible too, since that scenario is as easy to argue than Montreal getting lucky no other GMs took a chance on him during the 2nd round.

Don't get me wrong, it was an amazing pick and they were probably very excited he was available, but there was no way they knew for SURE he would still be there, so they got lucky.

And yes, I'd rather have those 3 players. It's the perfect scenario. But you probably didn't understood my point, since it's irrelevent to what I'm talking about (except if you REALLY think the Habs pull a Mesmer and predicted Hutson would be available for sure at 62).

 

[Colezuki]

Thank you for proving my point about Habs fans calling them genius for being mostly lucky!

I would LOVE to hear you argue on the fact that the Habs predicted that a player (who was in the 25-45 range on most mock draft) wouldn't get picked between 34 and 62. And make it sound credible too, since that scenario is as easy to argue than Montreal getting lucky no other GMs took a chance on him during the 2nd round.

Don't get me wrong, it was an amazing pick and they were probably very excited he was available, but there was no way they knew for SURE he would still be there, so they got lucky.

And yes, I'd rather have those 3 players. It's the perfect scenario. But you probably didn't understood my point, since it's irrelevent to what I'm talking about (except if you REALLY think the Habs pull a Mesmer and predicted Hutson would be available for sure at 62).

To be fair the habs pre draft video actually calls it out at 62 that Hutson is there target. Not saying it’s right or wrong but That’s what there pre work said. They talk about mesar and beck for 26/33 but Hutson comes at 62 so they clearly saw something still that made them doubt his 25-42 position

 

[Steeler23]

To be fair the habs pre draft video actually calls it out at 62 that Hutson is there target. Not saying it’s right or wrong but That’s what there pre work said. They talk about mesar and beck for 26/33 but Hutson comes at 62 so they clearly saw something still that made them doubt his 25-42 position

My first answer was about someone calling 31 GMs dumb for not drafting him. I said that it should be 32 GMs, since right now, in any re-draft, he is very likely to be draft in the 1st round. If the Habs had him at 62 from the get go, I don't know how they are much smarter than any GMs who didn't pick him between 30-50ish.

My point was never about GMs wanting him at all or not, or predicting where he will be drafted. It's about the fact that if 31 GMs are dumb for not drafting him in the 1st or 2nd (because he look like a top pick less than a year after the draft), Mtl are dumb too to put him at only 62.

PS: I don't think 31/32 GMs are dumb for passing on him (mostly because not every teams had a pick in that range), but I think Montreal got mostly lucky that he was available and/or that he developped that much, that fast.

 

[Colezuki]

My first answer was about someone calling 31 GMs dumb for not drafting him. I said that it should be 32 GMs, since right now, in any re-draft, he is very likely to be draft in the 1st round. If the Habs had him at 62 from the get go, I don't know how they are much smarter than any GMs who didn't pick him between 30-50ish.

My point was never about GMs wanting him at all or not, or predicting where he will be drafted. It's about the fact that if 31 GMs are dumb for not drafting him in the 1st or 2nd (because he look like a top pick less than a year after the draft), Mtl are dumb too to put him at only 62.

PS: I don't think 31/32 GMs are dumb for passing on him (mostly because not every teams had a pick in that range), but I think Montreal got mostly lucky that he was available and/or that he developped that much, that fast.

I’d agree with your thesis, but I think his skill was never in question. The issue was always his size and whether or not his game would translate to NCAA and then the NHL. The reality is until he does this in the NHL there will be doubters I’ve seen it with caufield as well. You can think someone has top 5 talent but is a DND due to other concerns look at merkley, or even some of the Russians like Miro in the last draft.

 

[MXD]

On a personnal basis, at the time of th draft, I'd rather have been "safe" to get Beck at 25 and Hutson at 33rd than risking those two players by picking Mesar at 25.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

To be fair the habs pre draft video actually calls it out at 62 that Hutson is there target. Not saying it’s right or wrong but That’s what there pre work said. They talk about mesar and beck for 26/33 but Hutson comes at 62 so they clearly saw something still that made them doubt his 25-42 position

To add to this, Arpon Basu (Habs beat writer for the Athletic) said on his podcast the other day that Nick Bobrov told him in September that the Habs staff was 99.5% certain that Hutson was going to be there at 62.

 

[HuGo Sham]

As an Habs fan, It amaze me how many Mtl fans are calling the management genius for drafting him at 62. They are not.

They didn't take him at 26 or 33. They didn't trade up either (to make sure they got him when they saw hm fall. With the way he's playing (and the fact he had proof he would grow), he was easily worth it at 26 or 33.

Fact is, 32 teams look dumb today, but 1 is also lucky.

in their albeit flimsy defence, there was a an article I believe, in Lapresse a couple of weeks ago that Hughes wanted him but was more concerned Beck would be gone, so they made that pick and then tried to trade back early into the second round for Hutson. They couldn't make a deal and then just lucked out

 

[HabzSauce]

My first answer was about someone calling 31 GMs dumb for not drafting him. I said that it should be 32 GMs, since right now, in any re-draft, he is very likely to be draft in the 1st round. If the Habs had him at 62 from the get go, I don't know how they are much smarter than any GMs who didn't pick him between 30-50ish.

My point was never about GMs wanting him at all or not, or predicting where he will be drafted. It's about the fact that if 31 GMs are dumb for not drafting him in the 1st or 2nd (because he look like a top pick less than a year after the draft), Mtl are dumb too to put him at only 62.

PS: I don't think 31/32 GMs are dumb for passing on him (mostly because not every teams had a pick in that range), but I think Montreal got mostly lucky that he was available and/or that he developped that much, that fast.

It's a strategic dice roll is how I see it. Hugo is more of an elite gambler than he is a genius for getting Hutson at #62.

But then again anyone great at something including gambling has a stroke of genius in them....so genius pick afterall??

 

[CanadienShark]

As an Habs fan, It amaze me how many Mtl fans are calling the management genius for drafting him at 62. They are not.

They didn't take him at 26 or 33. They didn't trade up either (to make sure they got him when they saw hm fall. With the way he's playing (and the fact he had proof he would grow), he was easily worth it at 26 or 33.

Fact is, 32 teams look dumb today, but 1 is also lucky.

Maybe I'm misremembering, but weren't they looking at Beck and Hutson as 1st round calibre prospects, but valued Beck higher and thus took him first? Having Hutson available later was just gravy.

Thank you for proving my point about Habs fans calling them genius for being mostly lucky!

I would LOVE to hear you argue on the fact that the Habs predicted that a player (who was in the 25-45 range on most mock draft) wouldn't get picked between 34 and 62. And make it sound credible too, since that scenario is as easy to argue than Montreal getting lucky no other GMs took a chance on him during the 2nd round.

Don't get me wrong, it was an amazing pick and they were probably very excited he was available, but there was no way they knew for SURE he would still be there, so they got lucky.

And yes, I'd rather have those 3 players. It's the perfect scenario. But you probably didn't understood my point, since it's irrelevent to what I'm talking about (except if you REALLY think the Habs pull a Mesmer and predicted Hutson would be available for sure at 62).

It was an educated guess, or a worthwhile gamble. Doesn't mean they didn't weigh the risk/reward. Obviously they figured the risk of him not being available was worth it.

I'm not saying "wow they're geniuses for letting him fall like that", I'm saying that they clearly had some idea of his potential and were willing to risk him not being available. Maybe he far exceeds or completely fails on expectations, but I think this is exactly the right kind of gamble to make. For that reason, it's an amazing pick.

So basically, it's not an amazing pick in the sense that he's a lock to be a superstar, I just think the risk is negligible, but the potential reward is through the roof. That's why people are so excited.

 

[David Suzuki]

As an Habs fan, It amaze me how many Mtl fans are calling the management genius for drafting him at 62. They are not.

No one is doing this

 

[95snipes]

My first answer was about someone calling 31 GMs dumb for not drafting him. I said that it should be 32 GMs, since right now, in any re-draft, he is very likely to be draft in the 1st round. If the Habs had him at 62 from the get go, I don't know how they are much smarter than any GMs who didn't pick him between 30-50ish.

My point was never about GMs wanting him at all or not, or predicting where he will be drafted. It's about the fact that if 31 GMs are dumb for not drafting him in the 1st or 2nd (because he look like a top pick less than a year after the draft), Mtl are dumb too to put him at only 62.

PS: I don't think 31/32 GMs are dumb for passing on him (mostly because not every teams had a pick in that range), but I think Montreal got mostly lucky that he was available and/or that he developped that much, that fast.

32 dumb GMs is right.. I posted this in November of 2021 -

Catching up on some tape.. I agree with a lot of what has been said in here already. Surprised he's only on page one still. Fits the description of the 'new age' puckmover to a tee. Very good escapeability from the opposing forecheck and is able to advance the puck where it needs to be when it needs to be there. If he gets past 15, I think some team will have themselves a steal.

I can see why teams would stay away in top 20 (though I'd disagree), but after 20 there's really no defense of not taking a chance when guys like Maveric Lamoureux or 'I guarantee they won't play in your top 6' Nathan Gauther and Reid Schaefer are going in the first round. The beginning of the 2nd should have the absolute latest considering it would have been the team's second selection. I can't think of a better type of target than that for a bottom feeder to add to their pool.

 

[mfilipo3]

On a personnal basis, at the time of th draft, I'd rather have been "safe" to get Beck at 25 and Hutson at 33rd than risking those two players by picking Mesar at 25.

Mesar is going to be a bust

 

[ponder]

Why is it extremely unlikely if a doctor literally told him his bone development is delayed.

I think what you mean to say is it's extremely unlikely for most people but possible for Lane Hutson given his situation?

I'm not saying he'll grow, but tired of listening to f***ing online doctors on here bitch about his height non-stop. It's tiresome to read, just wait a few months and you'll all know.

He was officially measured at 5’8.25” at the draft combine in June, then 4 months later, at the start of the NCAA season, BU listed him at 5’10”. It’s extremely unlikely because virtually nobody grows 1.75” in 4 months at the age of 18.

Hell, growing 1.75” in 4 months at any age is very uncommon. Men tend to grow ~3” in their fastest year of growth, or ~1” in 4 months, but that’s around when they hit puberty. For the year from age 18 to 19 men average ~0.3” of growth, or ~0.1” in 4 months. 1.75” inches in 4 months at 18 would be an insanely extreme outlier.

I really like Hutson as a prospect, just pointing out that his listed NCAA height is very, very likely exaggerated.

 

[MoneyManny]

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