LD Brady Cleveland - Univ. of Wisconsin, NCAA (2023, 47th, DET)

[SK94]

Whatever happened to a great Wisconsin program. Nowadays, everyone just wants to get out of there or stay far away from it.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Whatever happened to a great Wisconsin program. Nowadays, everyone just wants to get out of there or stay far away from it.

They had a really good season. Coach they hired just isn’t particularly young nhl prospect favorable.

 

[SK94]

They had a really good season. Coach they hired just isn’t particularly young nhl prospect favorable.

Well yes, but it's no longer a program where big talents want to go. They have lost their status as one of those big time programs where a lot of NHL talent wants to go.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Well yes, but it's no longer a program where big talents want to go. They have lost their status as one of those big time programs where a lot of NHL talent wants to go.

There were two different things addressed that are related but not the same. You can be a great program while also not necessarily being one where a lot of first and second round talent goes. The reason for that is the coach.

 

[SK94]

There were two different things addressed that are related but not the same. You can be a great program while also not necessarily being one where a lot of first and second round talent goes. The reason for that is the coach.

Yes, but Wisconsin was one of them for a long time. Now it almost feels like it's all about BC, BU and Michigan. That's a bit of a shame.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Yes, but Wisconsin was one of them for a long time. Now it almost feels like it's all about BC, BU and Michigan. That's a bit of a shame.

Minnesota too.

MSU starting to become that too with current coach in my opinion.

Denver a bit of a hybrid. Wins a lot of national championships and has good nhl talent but not as one and done focused.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Yes, but Wisconsin was one of them for a long time. Now it almost feels like it's all about BC, BU and Michigan. That's a bit of a shame.

Wisconsin doesn't have an elite pool of in state talent. There are some, but not many. Their main talent pool pipeline is essentially Illinois (Chicago area), which they have to battle Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, & others for players.

Wisconsin has to battle Minnesota, North Dakota, Minnesota Duluth, St Cloud State, and now Denver for the top Minnesotans. Even Notre Dame pulls some solid Minnesotans. They have to battle North Dakota, Denver, & Michigan for the top Western Canadians and they're unlikely to get many Eastern Canadians. New Englanders & New Yorkers rarely go to Wisconsin.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Any Coloradans/NCHC watchers have an update on Cleveland? 12 GP, 1 PT at Colorado College.

 

[GoBoltz56]

Any Coloradans/NCHC watchers have an update on Cleveland? 12 GP, 1 PT at Colorado College.

He had a point and it wasn't huge news??? I'm surprised

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Any Coloradans/NCHC watchers have an update on Cleveland? 12 GP, 1 PT at Colorado College.

Isn't he more of a stay-at-home, almost old school defensive dman type of d ?

 

[Oddbob]

Isn't he more of a stay-at-home, almost old school defensive dman type of d ?

Yes, but Wings fans almost universally hate this pick and have really grabbed on to his lack of offence in his career thus far, including before college. Hate cause he was a 2nd round pick, if he was a 5th rounder he would get no hate.

 

[BKarchitect]

Yes, but Wings fans almost universally hate this pick and have really grabbed on to his lack of offence in his career thus far, including before college. Hate cause he was a 2nd round pick, if he was a 5th rounder he would get no hate.

Technically he was their 5th pick of the draft so…5th rounder?

Pretty incredible that they hoarded 5 of the first 47 picks that year. They definitely let one of their scouts get too cute with this one.

 

[AD1066]

Technically he was their 5th pick of the draft so…5th rounder?

Pretty incredible that they hoarded 5 of the first 47 picks that year. They definitely let one of their scouts get too cute with this one.

Complete head-scratcher and waste of draft capital, why not gamble on someone with upside-- Heidt, Sawchyn, Dragicevic, etc?

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Complete head-scratcher and waste of draft capital, why not gamble on someone with upside-- Heidt, Sawchyn, Dragicevic, etc?

Draper and Yzerman love these high compete types

 

[raymond23]

Has not scored a goal since highschool during COVID

What a pick

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Complete head-scratcher and waste of draft capital, why not gamble on someone with upside-- Heidt, Sawchyn, Dragicevic, etc?

The NHL teams look at upside differently than fans. They see upside as big and can skate. Small junior scorers aren’t upside to them.

 

[RedHawkDown]

If he's actually a good defensive D, he would make a very good partner for ASP. But it remains to be seen if he's actually good at anything other than being 6'5".

However, if he can play a role as a Nikita Zadorov type with even worse offense but better defense, then he would make an ideal partner to let ASP loose.

Ed-Seider
Cleveland-ASP

I'm guessing this is what the FO had in mind when they picked Cleveland in the same draft as ASP. I still hate the pick though.

 

[emptyNedder]

Draper and Yzerman love these high compete types

Seems like Fisker Mølgaard fits the bill. Not really a small junior scorer either.

The NHL teams look at upside differently than fans. They see upside as big and can skate. Small junior scorers aren’t upside to them.

 

[newfy]

If he's actually a good defensive D, he would make a very good partner for ASP. But it remains to be seen if he's actually good at anything other than being 6'5".

However, if he can play a role as a Nikita Zadorov type with even worse offense but better defense, then he would make an ideal partner to let ASP loose.

Ed-Seider
Cleveland-ASP

I'm guessing this is what the FO had in mind when they picked Cleveland in the same draft as ASP. I still hate the pick though.

He had a lot of great advanced defensive stats last year but for where he was picked you would definitely prefer to see some offence at some point. But he honestly doesn't need to put up any points to carve out an NHL role either with the way he plays.

Its not the ini style 5'9 puck mover but theres still a need for his role in the league

 

[Hockeyville USA]

He had a lot of great advanced defensive stats last year but for where he was picked you would definitely prefer to see some offence at some point. But he honestly doesn't need to put up any points to carve out an NHL role either with the way he plays.

Its not the ini style 5'9 puck mover but theres still a need for his role in the league

You'd hope he's Joel Edmundson or Erik Cernak. But even they had a bit of production, albeit in different leagues.